Indigenous blockade in BC & related protests

[Dougie93]

Your constitution came to the aid of my Queen, in her darkest hour,  climbed the cliffs at Pointe du Hoc, flew the B-17s to Regensburg, carried the Bomb on the Indianapolis.

Your constitution is the defender of mine,  I never forget.

[Dougie93]

That's you, Bush Cheney, with the Bomb, on the Indianapolis, in shark infested waters, United Kingdom United States Security Agreement, Joint Strategic Deterrent.

God save the Queen and her Mohawk Warriors, God bless the flag that makes you free.

[bush_cheney2004]

Maybe this long history of protests and unsettled claims only points to the obvious....they are not dealing with the Queen or her viceroy...just some provincial suits.

Best to deal directly with the HMFIC in such matters.

 

[Dougie93]

F**k those suits, I do not answer to suits, if the suits are in charge here now, I'm heading for the Great Basin, in the freest f**kin state in the Union, which makes it the freest f**kin state on earth.

I rather be a wild eyed Nevadan Idaho hater, and Lockheed Martin shareholder,  than defend and uphold the Liberal Party of Canada uber alles.

Edited February 24, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

I mean, if Canada is a republic, then it's just another frozen socialist shit hole, if I am to defend and uphold a republic,  I am going all the way.

Give me the CIP keys, I will carry the Bomb.  If I am to be eaten by sharks, it's not going to be for disgusting Liberal fat bodies wearing suits.

And if the Indians are just going to roll over to a bunch of suits, supine in the face of gutless bourgeois bureaucrats, then the Indians are not warriors anymore, and so no bothers to me after all. 

Edited February 24, 2019 by Dougie93

[bush_cheney2004]

The OP raises a good point....why do these issues that fester from broken treaties, unsettled claims, and Crown overreach continue after so many years if not a purposeful delaying tactic by the provincial and federal government(s)?     The only power that "aboriginal" groups have stems from the courts, which is also beholden to "crown" interests.

Is this just a game that will continue to be played out in Canada because there can never be absolute resolution ?

 

 

 

[Dougie93]

The issues fester because they are not resolved by war,  the indians choose peace without justice, because they are apparently afraid of the Mounties.

Frankly, I'ma bout ready to wash my hands of it,  and move on forevermore.

If the Indians would rather be Red than dead, that is their prerogative, but as I was prepared to got to my death in defence of the Fulda Gap, I don't need to be defending those who take a knee rather than fight.

I'll go stand with the Bundy's in Nevada, don't fence me in,  no duty to retreat.

Edited February 24, 2019 by Dougie93

[bush_cheney2004]

To an outsider, it just seems that this festering has been normalized in Canada with additional layers of fake reconciliation, "duty to consult", pandering, etc.

Maybe Oka was so shocking to the Canadian body politic, any amount of squirming and delay is preferable to "confrontation".

Plus there are special interests in BC who would use "aboriginals" for their own agenda, even though most of BC was never ceded by treaty in the first place.

 

[Dougie93]

Everybody uses "aboriginals" for their own agenda, soon as you see "aboriginals", that's the Cultural Marxists, if the Indians capitulate to be ruled by them, even tho the Indians could, if they chose to band together and fight, bring the suits to their knees, then I gotta wash my hands of those Indians, cause "aboriginal" is meaningless to me.

If the Grand Chief of the Mohawks is going to say "hey man, we can't stand up to them, cause that would mean another Oka *gasp*", then good luck to him, send me a postcard in Nevada.

Edited February 24, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

I mean, you'd think that "Oka" was the f**king Tet Offensive for crying out loud.  

Get a f**kin pair,  you Indian pussies, if you had run an Oka every couple of months, you'd be running this fake country by now.

If you're not Hoplites at Marathon, don't come crying to me, there's no crying at Marathon.

Edited February 24, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

You know what the problem with the Indians is?  Same problem with everything else;  Eskimo Communism.

The Indians have apparently been Canadianized too, by the CBC state propaganda arm.

They're sitting around watching David Suzuki on the Nature of Things while sipping camomile tea.

F**k right off, NDPindians.

[mowich]

19 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I am sorry I lumped you in with all the peace niks and tree huggers, but you'll have to admit , bar a massive earth quake that sucks them types into the ocean BC is not going to change, and thats their right to do so, but the rest of us should not be held hostage to their whims....thats why I suggested cutting the funding for all federal projects in BC and spend that money out east....NB would love to have Alberta oil gushing into our province....we'd love the jobs and extra funding....

Not too worry, Army Guy..........just wanted you to know that not all BCer's are in lock-step with the NIMBYs on the Left Coast. I completely agree that the ROC should not be held hostage to the leftist policies of the BC government.  Unfortunately, we too are ignored and dismissed by them so there is little we can do except support all those who oppose their far left policies. 

[Dougie93]

I love peace, and I hug the trees, it is only the enemies of freedom who need be destroyed.  Afterwards, peace and freedom amongst the glorious trees

Best part about being in the infantry was the trees, Petawawa is an outdoor recreational paradise.

Edited February 24, 2019 by Dougie93

[Argus]

There is no such thing as sovereign land within Canada's boundaries. That we have allowed natives to believe they are 'nations' and that their borders are sacrosanct is probably half the cause of the current difficulties. There is no such thing as a sovereign nation which needs to get 100% of its income from another nation. These are tribes, and nothing more.  Badly led tribes, at that.

The Mohawk criminals of the time should have been slaughtered to the last man, but the government didn't want the bad publicity and chickened out.

[Zeitgeist]

15 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Everybody uses "aboriginals" for their own agenda, soon as you see "aboriginals", that's the Cultural Marxists, if the Indians capitulate to be ruled by them, even tho the Indians could, if they chose to band together and fight, bring the suits to their knees, then I gotta wash my hands of those Indians, cause "aboriginal" is meaningless to me.

If the Grand Chief of the Mohawks is going to say "hey man, we can't stand up to them, cause that would mean another Oka *gasp*", then good luck to him, send me a postcard in Nevada.

Incindiary talk, Dougie, be careful.  I know you’re being dramatic to make a point, but then you miss the point of places like Ontario: Peace, Order and Responsible Government.  That’s the Queen’s way. “Started loyal, stays loyal” protected forever.  These are the kinds of credos that must stay, no different from Declation of Independence.  That always saves the society in the end. Tradition, rule of law, freedom, justice...

[Dougie93]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

Incindiary talk, Dougie, be careful. 

I'm already a wild eyed Nevadan Idaho Hater, you say the Queen is not the country, so then I have no obligation to uphold a Queen's Peace anymore, me and the American first amendment over here, Bandenburg v Ohio, f**k Canada.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Incindiary talk, Dougie, be careful.  I know you’re being dramatic to make a point, but then you miss the point of places like Ontario: Peace, Order and Responsible Government.  That’s the Queen’s way. “Started loyal, stays loyal” protected forever.  These are the kinds of credos that must stay, no different from Declation of Independence.  That always saves the society in the end. Tradition, rule of law, freedom, justice...

 

You have things a bit mixed up....the Declaration of Independence was an instrument to be rid of the "Queen's way"...forever.  

None of this applies to "aboriginals" on unceded territory (e.g. British Columbia).

[Zeitgeist]

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

You have things a bit mixed up....the Declaration of Independence was an instrument to be rid of the "Queen's way"...forever.  

None of this applies to "aboriginals" on unceded territory (e.g. British Columbia).

Nevertheless, it’s a better track record in Canada, where we didn’t try to defeat them by war.  Iroquois Confederation, Captain Joseph Brant, Tehcumseh.  And it was all against Andrew Jackson and Manifest Destiny.  The slaves escaped north to freedom on the Underground Railroad.  The French were with the Hurons, the Couriers de bois with the Algonquin, fishers of rivers.  Not a bad cultural mythology.  I’ll take it. 

[Zeitgeist]

31 minutes ago, Argus said:

There is no such thing as sovereign land within Canada's boundaries. That we have allowed natives to believe they are 'nations' and that their borders are sacrosanct is probably half the cause of the current difficulties. There is no such thing as a sovereign nation which needs to get 100% of its income from another nation. These are tribes, and nothing more.  Badly led tribes, at that.

The Mohawk criminals of the time should have been slaughtered to the last man, but the government didn't want the bad publicity and chickened out.

That’s Manifest Destiny, cultural genocide. 

[Dougie93]

Sitting Bull fled to Canada.  Wherein he found it to be a frozen wasteland full of the British Crown.   So he returned to Manifest Destiny, and not only buried the war hatchet, he ordered that his sons be sent to American schools to be educated by the Americans.

Edited February 24, 2019 by Dougie93

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Nevertheless, it’s a better track record in Canada, where we didn’t try to defeat them by war.  Iroquois Confederation, Captain Joseph Brant, Tehcumseh.  And it was all against Andrew Jackson and Manifest Destiny.  The slaves escaped north to freedom on the Underground Railroad.  The French were with the Hurons, the Couriers de bois with the Algonquin, fishers of rivers.  Not a bad cultural mythology.  I’ll take it. 

 

Of course you will....the legacy of Canadian crimes against "aboriginals" is still being played out today, with apologies and half assed, unsettled land claims.   Provinces and the federal government know they can drag things out for another 100 years if needed.

"Duty to consult" is just a euphemism for continuing to screw them...it's the Canadian way.

Edited February 24, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

That’s Manifest Destiny, cultural genocide. 

Canada is the British Empire, Argus is simply an Imperialist, it is in fact the story of his people.

[bush_cheney2004]

Why are the "aboriginals" (totally imperialist word) in British Columbia on unceded territory bound by anything the provincial government does/decides in the first place?

What does "unceded" mean in Canada ?   Does it mean that it still belongs to the old lady with Corgis across the pond ?

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Why are the "aboriginals" (totally imperialist word) in British Columbia on unceded territory bound by anything the provincial government does/decides in the first place?

What does "unceded" mean in Canada ?   Does it mean that it still belongs to the old lady with Corgis across the pond ?

The Old Lady with the Corgis actually sympathizes with Imperial Aboriginals, like the Gurkhas, Canada is the part of the Empire where they shoot their Gurkhas.

[Zeitgeist]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Why are the "aboriginals" (totally imperialist word) in British Columbia on unceded territory bound by anything the provincial government does/decides in the first place?

What does "unceded" mean in Canada ?   Does it mean that it still belongs to the old lady with Corgis across the pond ?

It means there was never an agreement over the ownership of the territory, because no one laid claim to it, that remains within the province of Britain Columbia.  Who’s “aboriginal”?  See the problem with such an identifier is that it becomes all about bloodline and race.  Free states are organized to prevent that kind of ethic hegemony, because race is limiting.