The transgender insanity movement

[Michael Hardner]

6 hours ago, bcsapper said:

1) We didn't ignore that when talking about white supremacists.   

2) Some will be, some won't be.  It doesn't stop those who will be was my point.  Those who won't probably aren't still reading anyway.

3) As long as it's okay to express contempt and disgust for anyone deserving of it, it's all good.

4)  Sure.  These days lots of people look over their shoulders more than they used to.

1) The difference is that that's the point of their movement, though. The model is to persecute and eliminate other races. Trans people do not exist to commit sex crimes.  You're basically saying that associating trans people with crimes is akin to associating KKK with racial prejudice which is just ridiculous.

2) It's not a plus, is my point. 

3) And when a thread tars the group, emphasizes individual crimes.. don't be too worried that it might turn PC.

4) Or need to.  More importantly, we're more concerned with offending the majority than protecting the minority.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1) The difference is that that's the point of their movement, though. The model is to persecute and eliminate other races. Trans people do not exist to commit sex crimes.  You're basically saying that associating trans people with crimes is akin to associating KKK with racial prejudice which is just ridiculous.

2) It's not a plus, is my point. 

3) And when a thread tars the group, emphasizes individual crimes.. don't be too worried that it might turn PC.

4) Or need to.  More importantly, we're more concerned with offending the majority than protecting the minority.

1) No I'm not.  Expecting people to treat you as a woman if they don't want to is not a sex crime.  You seem to be saying that anything he does that is a part of his Trans claim should be ignored because it might put others of the same group in a bad light.  Where have I heard that before?

2) If it doesn't stop the discussion in other areas it's neither a plus nor a minus.

3) It's tough to omit current subject individual from a thread entitled "The transgender insanity movement". 

4) I really don't care at all who gets offended.  No-one is entitled to protection from offense.  Offense is incidental to a discussion, and really shouldn't be a consideration.

[scribblet]

This is no longer a slippery slope, it’s rolling down hill at top speed.  One woman was turned down by numerous lawyers who told her to just settle because they were afraid to take it on.  A few others actually did settle which put thousands of dollars right into Yaniv’s pocket. The fact that scammers can game the courts by hiding behind “human rights” and identity is crazy  

It’s a very troubling story when we know that women have already settled with Yaniv for claims similar to those before the tribunal.  A tribunal which has already brokered deals and ok'd them. How is this OK, and how does this not lead to more.

Just read but can’t confirm that the police have been called on Jessica Yaniv for possession of child pornography for sexually soliciting an underage girl.

 

The tribunal could’ve turned this down but they didn’t, which means it’s possible that Yaniv might win which would be a gross miscarriage of justice.

[Michael Hardner]

11 hours ago, bcsapper said:

1)  You seem to be saying that anything he does that is a part of his Trans claim should be ignored because it might put others of the same group in a bad light.   

2) It's tough to omit current subject individual from a thread entitled "The transgender insanity movement". 

3) I really don't care at all who gets offended. 

1) No, I am saying individuals as such don't factor into a broad topic like this. I already asked for examples in other areas.  What about African Americans?  Can we have a topic on their part in American history and have a significant part of the thread about OJ?

2) No, just stop talking about her.

3) Good.

[Argus]

24 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1) No, I am saying individuals as such don't factor into a broad topic like this. I already asked for examples in other areas.  What about African Americans?  Can we have a topic on their part in American history and have a significant part of the thread about OJ?

2) No, just stop talking about her.

Don't you dare discuss transgender insanity in the transgender insanity movement topic!

Everything is just FINE! Nothing to see here! The great progressive guru has spoken!

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1) No, I am saying individuals as such don't factor into a broad topic like this. I already asked for examples in other areas.  What about African Americans?  Can we have a topic on their part in American history and have a significant part of the thread about OJ?

2) No, just stop talking about her.

3) Good.

1)I suppose if OJ was a black rights activist who sued a bunch of people who had really done nothing wrong, and then tried to use his colour to achieve some pretty dodgy goals, we might.

2) See 1)

3) Yes, good.

[Hal 9000]

I hope that Jessica Yanev sues every single person that has told her "NO!", and if she loses, I think she should sue the government.  I think that all these places should go out of business for discrimination violations too.  I also want to see every women's athletic record broken by someone in the transgender community.  It might be the social justice in me coming out, but I'd like to see that. 

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, bcsapper said:

 I suppose if OJ was a black rights activist who sued a bunch of people who had really done nothing wrong, and then tried to use his colour to achieve some pretty dodgy goals, we might.

You might - but how does it help the conversation ?  You're actually buying into a tactic used by people who want to shift the discussion from facts into a narrative - a story that simplifies and makes the conversation into a simple good guy/bad guy sketch.  OJ, even the fictional OJ you describe, is a speck.   A single data point.

Of course, people CAN discuss things however they want.  And they want to hear stories, and reinforce their identities.   It's vanity, and it impedes a public from objectively assessing and solving problems.

[scribblet]

10 hours ago, Hal 9000 said:

I hope that Jessica Yanev sues every single person that has told her "NO!", and if she loses, I think she should sue the government.  I think that all these places should go out of business for discrimination violations too.  I also want to see every women's athletic record broken by someone in the transgender community.  It might be the social justice in me coming out, but I'd like to see that. 

Really - is there a smiley missing or something...    Meanwhile,

This perv is starting to get more attention which I suppose is what the perv wants.  He called 911, pulled a fire alarm, threatened to pepper spray the reporter then had his mom physically assault him,   his person is completely unhinged!    If JY wins the case not only will it legalize sexual assault but enable JY to continue preying on young girls.

 

https://torontosun.com/news/national/scrotum-waxing-human-rights-complainant-calls-911-on-journalist

http://blackballmedia.ca/2019/07/27/his-name-is-jonathan-yaniv/

 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

You might - but how does it help the conversation ?  You're actually buying into a tactic used by people who want to shift the discussion from facts into a narrative - a story that simplifies and makes the conversation into a simple good guy/bad guy sketch.  OJ, even the fictional OJ you describe, is a speck.   A single data point.

Of course, people CAN discuss things however they want.  And they want to hear stories, and reinforce their identities.   It's vanity, and it impedes a public from objectively assessing and solving problems.

Most Muslims in Canada do just fine, but the mosque shooter is often brought up in a discussion on how they are doing.  And why not?  It should be. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, scribblet said:

 This perv is starting to get more attention....   

On this thread also !  It's pretty rich to have the manure shovellers ask each other if they notice the shit smell...

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

Most Muslims in Canada do just fine, but the mosque shooter is often brought up in a discussion on how they are doing.  And why not?  It should be. 

You keep switching the context to prove your point.  It's not insignificant that a shooting happens. If there are shootings that didn't happen before then that's significant also.

Let's get back to the topic though.

I could just counter, using the same method by saying: I think transgendered people are great.  One of them helps my grandma by cutting her lawn.  

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You keep switching the context to prove your point.  It's not insignificant that a shooting happens. If there are shootings that didn't happen before then that's significant also.

Let's get back to the topic though.

I could just counter, using the same method by saying: I think transgendered people are great.  One of them helps my grandma by cutting her lawn.  

No I don't.  You are just very selective in what you think applies to a discussion.  If it makes your point, all well and good.

The thread is not about great transgender people.  It's about insane transgender people.  Or at least, the insanity that comes with the transgender rights movement.

If you are of the opinion that a man can compete in women's sports just by declaring himself a woman, and women who run a business for women only should be forced to handle male genitalia, and Lesbians are bigoted if they don't at least consider a partner with a penis, then that's your argument. 

Not "Shut up about it, I don't want to hear it".

Edited July 27, 2019 by bcsapper

[scribblet]

43 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

On this thread also !  It's pretty rich to have the manure shovellers ask each other if they notice the shit smell...

It's pretty rich that those throwing around insults are those who seem to support and want to suppress discussion of perverts preying on young children along with forcing women to handle male genitals against their will.   The shit smell that really stinks is catering to the suppression of women's rights and perverts and catering to the whims of a perverted man.

You can't deal with a problem until you acknowledge it,  but you are free to throw insults rather than fight for the rights of women and young children, so wallow in your own stink.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

[Hal 9000]

3 hours ago, scribblet said:

Really - is there a smiley missing or something...    Meanwhile,

This perv is starting to get more attention which I suppose is what the perv wants.  He called 911, pulled a fire alarm, threatened to pepper spray the reporter then had his mom physically assault him,   his person is completely unhinged!    If JY wins the case not only will it legalize sexual assault but enable JY to continue preying on young girls.

 

 

 

 

 

https://torontosun.com/news/national/scrotum-waxing-human-rights-complainant-calls-911-on-journalist

http://blackballmedia.ca/2019/07/27/his-name-is-jonathan-yaniv/

 

 

Well, we all saw this coming...didn't we?  Go back to all the transgender washroom talk, all the gay wedding cake talk and all of us that spoke out were branded homophobes.  We were told that transgender people were better than us, that there were no perverts who would ever exploit the laws, well, the chickens are coming home to roost.  There have been minor incidents of transgender taking over change rooms and such, but this is the first real challenge to the new progressive ideology.  Now, all of a sudden people are claiming that a business has the right to refuse anyone...really?  Where were you people when Jack Phillips was getting attacked for not baking a cake.  How many of these people now being sued by this transgender pervert were all-in on transgender washrooms...or destroying any bakery who refused a gay wedding cake?  I'll best most.   In sports, Oh isn't it progressive to have a transgender competing - except, this transgender - any transgender, who couldn't compete in the slightest as a male is literally destroying women's sports - women who have fought for years to be taken seriously, are getting shamed out of sports - who could've predicted that?  Certainly not the progressives, but the homophobes and misogynists saw it clear as day.  

Sorry, this is just desserts, and I hope a lesson is learned.  But, it's clear that it'll come at a scorched earth before anything is done.  And yes, I want to see whether his rights are put before those of the people he is exploiting, also, I want to see Trudeau cut a multi-million dollar cheque to this pervert and explain it to the voters.

[Argus]

4 hours ago, scribblet said:

Really - is there a smiley missing or something...    Meanwhile,

This perv is starting to get more attention which I suppose is what the perv wants.  He called 911, pulled a fire alarm, threatened to pepper spray the reporter then had his mom physically assault him,   his person is completely unhinged!    If JY wins the case not only will it legalize sexual assault but enable JY to continue preying on young girls.

Well, he's getting no coverage from the mainstream. Only the Sun and Post dare to mention this ongoing farce, though media in the rest of the world, from the UK to US to Australia are staring in fascination. Like certain progressives here, they'd much prefer if everyone stopped talking about it as it goes against their narrative.

Where is this yarn — outside the National Post and Toronto Sun — in the large media of this country? CTV, CBC, The Globe and Mail, the Toronto Star? Silence. (The Post Millennial has covered the story, as has Blaire White, herself a transgender woman — she posted her work on YouTube.) Perhaps the TV networks have an excuse. After all you cannot expect to have a full seven hours live on the comatose Mueller hearings and cover the Trump presidency every 15 minutes, and still serve up a story of harassment of immigrants and very strange and creepy behaviour out of Vancouver. (Were Trump to tweet on the matter, of course, the panels would be endless, righteous outrage infinite.)

Is it simply because even the word “transgender” is kryptonite to the brave media who are always otherwise anxious to write and broadcast “truth to power”? The silent passing over of this story is journalistic cowardice, the fear of offending the passing pieties of militant progressivism.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-the-yaniv-outrage-has-left-canada-rightly-the-laughing-stock-of-the-world

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, bcsapper said:

1. Or at least, the insanity that comes with the transgender rights movement.

If you are of the opinion that a man can compete in women's sports just by declaring himself a woman, and women who run a business for women only should be forced to handle male genitalia, and Lesbians are bigoted if they don't at least consider a partner with a penis, then that's your argument. 

Not "Shut up about it, I don't want to hear it".

1.  "That comes with... ".  Nice.  You have found a new way to unfairly associate a single psycho with the group.  "Charles Manson is a great example of the insanity that comes with hippies"

2.  "You are just very selective in what you think applies to a discussion."   If you say so.   I admonish people on both sides for stupid arguments but you seem to not like it when I do it on your pet topics.  I'll stop then.

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, scribblet said:

1.  suppress discussion of perverts preying on young children ...

2.  The shit smell that really stinks is catering to the suppression of women's rights and perverts and catering to the whims of a perverted man.

3. You can't deal with a problem until you acknowledge it, 

4. "the rights of women and young children, so wallow in your own stink."

5. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

1. Start a thread called 'perverts preying on young children' then.  

2. Who cares ?  I sure don't.  Seems like selective morality to me.  L

3. To me, the problem is a high level of violence against transgender people.  I guess if you can find one example of a bad transgender person, it gives you free license to beat them, huh ?  Your logic here, not mine.

4. Oh, ffs.  Go wallow in your women and children.  And be sure to only give a damn when they want to punish some other group.

5. "I can take the next customer over here" - Dollarama Cashier

 

[scribblet]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Start a thread called 'perverts preying on young children' then.  

2. Who cares ?  I sure don't.  Seems like selective morality to me.  L

3. To me, the problem is a high level of violence against transgender people.  I guess if you can find one example of a bad transgender person, it gives you free license to beat them, huh ?  Your logic here, not mine.

4. Oh, ffs.  Go wallow in your women and children.  And be sure to only give a damn when they want to punish some other group.

5. "I can take the next customer over here" - Dollarama Cashier

 

Your efforts to undermine and make light of a major issue is noted; also your efforts to marginalize and put down anyone who disagrees with you is also noted. 

Fortunately Langley didn’t clear the topless swimming event; they just sat on it and moved it forward to Sept. 

The language regarding gender (et al ) has become so warped as the repercussions of legislation and ideology are now playing out to the detriment of women, and,  those who should be speaking out are silent.  Not just silent but actually are accusing people of …..   but your slur here. 

This is not about ‘transphobia’  as some would have us believe nor is it about ‘hate, race or bigotry’,  it’s about women having the right to say NO and not be bullied by people who don’t think their safety and feelings matter.  The ideology has become corrupted, and the Yaniv mess is the by product of trans. activism/activists who seem oddly silent on this – why?   One would think they would be appalled at how this person has corrupted their efforts to become 'normalized'.

In the end, this is the result of trans. activism whereby those who see no problem with what is happening crystalize themselves as enablers e.g. those lacking in ethics, integrity, and plain old decency.  

To be clear, I don't believe all trans people are like this pervert but that isn't the issue.   It's obvious that by allowing women's spaces to be open to anyone who identifies as a woman,  would allow predators into their safe world.   Shout that down if you will,  but it's obvious that the abuse  is happening, Yaniv is the first (that I know of) example.   No doubt if allowed to continue there will be more. 

 
 

Edited July 27, 2019 by scribblet

[J4L]

On 7/27/2019 at 2:42 PM, Michael Hardner said:

1. Start a thread called 'perverts preying on young children' then.  

2. Who cares ?  I sure don't.  Seems like selective morality to me.  L

3. To me, the problem is a high level of violence against transgender people.  I guess if you can find one example of a bad transgender person, it gives you free license to beat them, huh ?  Your logic here, not mine.

4. Oh, ffs.  Go wallow in your women and children.  And be sure to only give a damn when they want to punish some other group.

5. "I can take the next customer over here" - Dollarama Cashier

 

There have been many cases of Transgenders gaming the system, Michael.

The silence of the Canadian MSM is also very telling, in regards to this case.

Edited July 29, 2019 by J4L

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1.  "That comes with... ".  Nice.  You have found a new way to unfairly associate a single psycho with the group.  "Charles Manson is a great example of the insanity that comes with hippies"

2.  "You are just very selective in what you think applies to a discussion."   If you say so.   I admonish people on both sides for stupid arguments but you seem to not like it when I do it on your pet topics.  I'll stop then.

No need to stop.

1) No I didn't.  I was talking about the thread.  You could actually read what I wrote and you'd see that.  (I notice you are pretty selective with which bits you quote and which bits you delete from a quote, so maybe you did see that, and decided it wasn't what you wanted to read)

2) I don't care if you admonish me.  I'll just argue the point and admonish you.

Edited July 28, 2019 by bcsapper

[Rue]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZAoIDKMENE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHAeGNa3dzM

https://www.pinterest.ca/kittytoes1/transgender-deception/

If you go on you tube everyone is transsexual including Paris Hilton, Cameron Diaz, Taylor Swift and Kiera Knightley and I slept with all of them. Could have fooled me although now that I think about it they all beat me arm wrestling and Paris did sort of smell like George Clooney's wife's who is also transsexual.

Oy. Look everyone calm down. Leave Michael Harder alone.

Seriously, yah its true its causing some practical issues in public facilities and yah we live now in a society that seems to be emphasizing the blurring of the distinction biologically between male and female gender.  

I mean you want to get paranoid about it-did we insist on using so much plastic knowing the plastic bottles had estrogen that would pollute the water we drink turning all us males into neuters and increasing breast cancer in women? Well? How far you want to go with whether Satan and/or the illuminati are doing this or whatever-I  leave to you but Cher never had me fooled and neither did Jane Fonda.

 

[scribblet]

OK...   human rights for the female penis !!! 

[egghead]

As I mentioned before, leftists were in the reverse-discrimination movement, case in point, Jonathan Yaniv's waxing, Jack Phillips's cake, Trump's tweets, Erica Thomas's supermarket lineup .... They think they are more equal ("right") than others.

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, Rue said:

I mean you want to get paranoid about it-did we insist on using so much plastic knowing the plastic bottles had estrogen that would pollute the water we drink turning all us males into neuters and increasing breast cancer in women?

Yeah, I think the issue of estrogen in waste and its ingestion downstream hasn't been studied enough.

Wouldn't it be strange if that was the only reason we haven't had a WWIII?

Edited July 28, 2019 by bcsapper
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they don't get enough female hormone - Not Blaise Pascal