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On 12/30/2018 at 9:07 PM, Truth Detector said:

More from the insanity movement.

Transgender wrestler wins second straight Texas girls' high school title.  Apparently a guy choking out a girl is the new “progress.”

 

He/she is taking testosterone  which is responsible for muscular development (among other things)  and entered with a  32-0 record, no suprise he won a couple by default because the girls refused to compete...   I thought doping was against the rules.

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On 1/1/2019 at 4:55 PM, scribblet said:

He/she is taking testosterone  which is responsible for muscular development (among other things)  and entered with a  32-0 record, no suprise he won a couple by default because the girls refused to compete...   I thought doping was against the rules.

That's actually a really good point with regard to doping. I could not do that to bulk up, I'd have to work out for a year to get a lot of this flab off my body.  This really is a damn good point though and should really be part of this conversation.

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On 12/2/2018 at 5:40 PM, Argus said:

The transgender movement has moved with lightning speed amid ferocious hostility towards anyone who stands in its path. It increasingly demands more accommodation, largely at the expense of women, demands men who are 100% physically and biologically male, and have no medical or psychological evidence to the contrary, be considered 100% female. No proof is needed or necessary, and anyone who suggests that such 'women' not be allowed into womens changing rooms, bathrooms, or showers, is merely a hatemonger and bigot who needs to be relentlessly attacked.

In days of old, when you could say "Men are not women" and not be accused of hate speech and bigotry.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/11/meghan-murphy/

When women got to compete against each other in sports, and didn't have to compete against men who simply claimed they were women.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/transgender-woman-track-cycling-1.4863381

When no one ever gave a thought to the idea that male rapists should be sent to womens prisons.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6169813/Rapist-Karen-Whites-ex-girlfriend-says-gender-change-sham.html

 

The left has no end.  They simply move from one victory to pushing the next thing.  The left will never stop, ever.  That's why it's so important to not even give them one victory.  Ho2wever, it's too late for that.  

 

Gender dimorphism is a very sad condition.  It makes me feel terrible for those that suffer from this condition.  They need help and I wish they get the help they require.

 

I do not care what trans people do.  If they want to dress like the opposite biological sex or call themselves the opposite of their biological sex, no problem.  That requires nothing from me.  I do have an issue if they demand that I refer to them as the opposite of their biological sex as I would be lying.  You cannot magically change your gender or sex.  You're still the biological gender you were born to.  Even if you chop your penis off or have one added.

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On 12/8/2018 at 7:49 PM, Michael Hardner said:

1. We don't do things one at a time.  And most of the time, we do things zero at a time.

2. I saw a Toronto report that said 100 percent of trans women they interviewed had been assaulted.  That made me very sad.

3. And yet that person wasn't even the best performer in the league.  The idea that they dominated all other women isn't true.   That person was already a career athlete, as I understand, before the transition.

 

And you take them at their word?

With all the craziness the left pushes.  Even asking a person out is rape.  Asking for a kiss is rape.  Almost everything these days is considered some form of assault.  How do we know how many are actual assaults?  Do we have police reports?  Video evidence?  Sorry people lie all the time in order to push their own agendas.  Just look at our PM...

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54 minutes ago, Donnie said:

And you take them at their word?

With all the craziness the left pushes.  Even asking a person out is rape.  Asking for a kiss is rape.  Almost everything these days is considered some form of assault.  How do we know how many are actual assaults?  Do we have police reports?  Video evidence?  Sorry people lie all the time in order to push their own agendas.  Just look at our PM...

Take who ?  The report ?  It was Toronto Police so yes.

'Asking a person out is rape' = bullshit.  The rest of that paragraph is mostly bullshit.

The PM is a blessed angel of virtue compared to that post. 

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Take who ?  The report ?  It was Toronto Police so yes.

'Asking a person out is rape' = bullshit.  The rest of that paragraph is mostly bullshit.

The PM is a blessed angel of virtue compared to that post. 

https://www.ontario.ca/page/lets-stop-sexual-harassment-and-violence

 

What is sexual violence

Sexual violence is any sexual act or attempt to obtain a sexual act by violence or force. This includes:

  • unwanted sexual comments or advances

 

Look at this section.  This is overly vague just like almost every leftist regulation.   

How does the person know that the attention is unwanted or not?  That can be interpreted in too many ways.  Simply talking to a girl can be interpreted as unwanted.  Then this person is sexually harassing the person according to this.

 

Trigger warnings, micro aggressions, socialism (which is theft straight up),  trans which is accepting mental illness as a fact, unchecked immigration viewed as a positive thing, fascist anti hate speech laws.  I can go on.

 

No more right wing pandering for votes.  Stop doing this people. Support right wing talking points.  Destroy the left wing with facts.  The left is very weak on facts.  They hate facts.  They block right wing speakers because they are afraid of facts.

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11 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I can't tell what text is yours.

Sorry, Im new to this board  I need to get used to the functions.

 

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https://www.ontario.ca/page/lets-stop-sexual-harassment-and-violence

What is sexual violence

Sexual violence is any sexual act or attempt to obtain a sexual act by violence or force. This includes:

  • unwanted sexual comments or advances

 

 

 

 

Look at this section.  This is overly vague just like almost every leftist regulation.   

How does the person know that the attention is unwanted or not?  That can be interpreted in too many ways.  Simply talking to a girl can be interpreted as unwanted.  Then this person is sexually harassing the person according to this.

 

Trigger warnings, micro aggressions, socialism (which is theft straight up),  trans which is accepting mental illness as a fact, unchecked immigration viewed as a positive thing, fascist anti hate speech laws.  I can go on.

 

No more right wing pandering for votes.  Stop doing this people. Support right wing talking points.  Destroy the left wing with facts.  The left is very weak on facts.  They hate facts.  They block right wing speakers because they are afraid of facts.

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20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't think it works that way.  It has to be clear to the person that it's unwanted.

Thats the issue i have with vagueness sir.

Its getting to the point that even asking a girl for a kiss can be viewed as sexual harrassment.  This is whats happening on college campuses now.  Its insane.

1 in 4 women are raped at college?   Give me a break.  Its due to the overly broad sex assault  standards.

Im on my phine.  Once im on my laptop.  Ill post some sources for us to look at.  

 

My apologies for not providing them yet.

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7 hours ago, Donnie said:

1. Its getting to the point that even asking a girl for a kiss can be viewed as sexual harrassment.  This is whats happening on college campuses now.  Its insane.

2. 1 in 4 women are raped at college?   Give me a break.  Its due to the overly broad sex assault  standards.

3. Im on my phine.  Once im on my laptop.  Ill post some sources for us to look at.  

 

My apologies for not providing them yet.

1. I agree with this statement, but whether it is 'viewed' as harassment vs. being a pursuable case is different.  

2. Well, you are annoyed by college people, but they are annoyed with women getting harassed and are exaggerating.  People exaggerate today, on all sides.  The Rebel goes into schoolyards to get stories about bad Syrian kids getting in fights, so they can get clicks from angry readers who hate Muslims.  If you are wise, you can see through that and figure out what the real issue is.

3. I really need to buy a phine.  Don't bother with the sources, I have read these things.  I think you can be outraged at sexual harassment AND fake outrage at the same time.

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@Michael Hardner

Im not only posting to you.  Just fyi.

So do you dispute my claims or not? If you do Ill provide sources proving my points.  Since the burden is on me.

If you dispute my claims yet refuse to accept my sources proving my points then you are not being fair.  And you only wish to hear your own bias and refuse to hear responable argument.

Do you wish to shut down all debate that disagrees with your points sir?

Thank you.

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8 minutes ago, Donnie said:

@Michael Hardner

Im not only posting to you.  Just fyi.

So do you dispute my claims or not? If you do Ill provide sources proving my points.  Since the burden is on me.

If you dispute my claims yet refuse to accept my sources proving my points then you are not being fair.  And you only wish to hear your own bias and refuse to hear responable argument.

Do you wish to shut down all debate that disagrees with your points sir?

Thank you.

Sorry ?  Are these questions for me ?  You say you're not only posting to me then ask questions.  I'm confused.

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On 3/18/2019 at 9:49 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Sorry ?  Are these questions for me ?  You say you're not only posting to me then ask questions.  I'm confused.

I dont believe you are interested in having an honest conversation.  If you are youll respond properly.  If not I have my answer.  

All the best.  

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On 3/18/2019 at 9:41 PM, Donnie said:

@Michael Hardner

1. So do you dispute my claims or not? If you do Ill provide sources proving my points.  Since the burden is on me.

2. If you dispute my claims yet refuse to accept my sources proving my points then you are not being fair.  And you only wish to hear your own bias and refuse to hear responable argument.

3. Do you wish to shut down all debate that disagrees with your points sir?

4. Thank you.

1. Mostly you have stated opinions. "It's getting to the point" "overly broad" "it's insane".  Those are all *value statements* and qualitative assessments by you not statements of fact.

2. Your sources would back up your opinion, but since they are opinions then no.

3. No.

4. YW

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When those who demand hate speech laws get what they want.

A devout Catholic and mother is the subject of a five-month police investigation - after she was accused of calling a transgender woman a 'he' on Twitter.  Caroline Farrow, a broadcaster and writer for Roman Catholic newspapers, said she had a phone call from an officer on Monday asking her to attend an interview.

She added the officer said her tweets had 'misgendered' an individual by using the wrong pronoun, which could be an offence under the Malicious Communications Act. Sentences for those found guilty under this act can be as long as two years.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6827459/Catholic-journalist-questioned-caution-police-misgendering-someones-daughter.html
 

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18 hours ago, Argus said:

When those who demand hate speech laws get what they want.

A devout Catholic and mother is the subject of a five-month police investigation - after she was accused of calling a transgender woman a 'he' on Twitter.  Caroline Farrow, a broadcaster and writer for Roman Catholic newspapers, said she had a phone call from an officer on Monday asking her to attend an interview.

She added the officer said her tweets had 'misgendered' an individual by using the wrong pronoun, which could be an offence under the Malicious Communications Act. Sentences for those found guilty under this act can be as long as two years.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6827459/Catholic-journalist-questioned-caution-police-misgendering-someones-daughter.html
 

This is exactly the thing Peterson was warning about here in Canada. Compelled speech written into law.

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On 3/25/2019 at 9:24 AM, GostHacked said:

This is exactly the thing Peterson was warning about here in Canada. Compelled speech written into law.

You look at Haidt more. He basically says that we're instinctively tribal, and that one of the things we seek is to place something up on a pedestal like a holy object. The left, he says, has chosen diversity and inclusion as their holy object. And therefore, anyone who dares to express any viewpoint which goes against that is a blasphemer. In some ways, all the eagerness from the Left to institute anti 'hate' laws is really just a kind of religious zealotry wanting to ban blaspheme.

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You would do better to rely on the BBC's version of things and not a tabloid:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-surrey-47638527

Also - since this was misgendering, the 'compelled' speech issue doesn't seem to have touched on.  But I'm thinking you may not understand 'compelled' speech as such.

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sure... now do the "right".  I doubt you can.

Maybe the idea of putting property rights in the constitution ?

I'm not sure there's an equivalent. The right isn't trying to ban blaspheme these days.

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55 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

As predicted, you can find no fault with the right of any stripe.

Is that my job? I've spent the last some years expressing considerable hostility and contempt for first the Tea Party then Trump. What Left wing group have you spent any time condemning?

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