The Great Bomb Hoax - Why Now? Shades of Blasey-Ford

[taxme]

On 10/25/2018 at 1:41 PM, Centerpiece said:

It took a while to sink in but 10 devices - and none went off? That's because they weren't supposed to go off. All speculation of course but why now? Because of the upcoming mid-terms of course. Whoever's behind it has to be pretty smart to plan and carry out the hoax. Smart enough to know that it could severely damage the Republican image. That's why it can't be a Republican sympathizer. That leaves us with the Democrats and/or their operatives or an angry Democratic sympathizer - or you can go crazy and speculate it's a Russian (not likely). Par for the course, It'll be interesting to see how it unfolds.

I knew it was coming where eventually the lame duck leftist liberal American and Canadian media would be blaming Trump for this incident. A suspect was arrested and is suppose to be the one that sent the pipe bombs to all those democrats. The media says that the accused was never involved in politics until Trump came along. The accused then became interested in politics and became an avid supporter of Trump which now is supposed to mean that if it were not for the Trump presidency this incident would not have happened. It never ends and no doubt that this poor sucker was being set up and made to fall for this crime. My opinion and belief. 

 

[Don Jonas]

3 hours ago, scribblet said:

Where you not once a really decent person. 

Am I to assume from your personal attack that you take offence to the suggestion that Trump and his supporters are not moderates? Or do you just like to make personal attacks against everyone who isn't a Trump supporter like you?

[Don Jonas]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

I knew it was coming where eventually the lame duck leftist liberal American and Canadian media would be blaming Trump for this incident. A suspect was arrested and is suppose to be the one that sent the pipe bombs to all those democrats. The media says that the accused was never involved in politics until Trump came along. The accused then became interested in politics and became an avid supporter of Trump which now is supposed to mean that if it were not for the Trump presidency this incident would not have happened. It never ends and no doubt that this poor sucker was being set up and made to fall for this crime. My opinion and belief. 

Your opinions and beliefs are only based on what you wish were true, not the real world that surrounds you.

[scribblet]

On 10/27/2018 at 3:29 PM, Don Jonas said:

Am I to assume from your personal attack that you take offence to the suggestion that Trump and his supporters are not moderates? Or do you just like to make personal attacks against everyone who isn't a Trump supporter like you?

Your snide personal comments are noted, but don't assume anything because you know what that does, you will be rightly  ignored 

[Don Jonas]

11 minutes ago, scribblet said:

Your snide personal comments are noted, but don't assume anything because you know what that does, you will be rightly  ignored 

I made no personal comments. I contended that many Trump supporters were once moderates and asked if you were as well. You don't think your positions might have become more extreme since the time when someone like Bob Dole headed the Republican party, or were you always venomously anti-Democrat? 

I don't think asking such a question is snide at all. But I'll accept your apology for calling me indecent for asking it, if you're willing to make it.

[scribblet]

On 10/27/2018 at 4:19 PM, Don Jonas said:

I made no personal comments. I contended that many Trump supporters were once moderates and asked if you were as well. You don't think your positions might have become more extreme since the time when someone like Bob Dole headed the Republican party, or were you always venomously anti-Democrat? 

I don't think asking such a question is snide at all. But I'll accept your apology for calling me indecent for asking it, if you're willing to make it.

 I generally don't reply to such egregious hyperbole, especially from the alt.left,.  I am Canadian, I have no dog in this hunt  so I will accept that any anti liberal opinion in your eyes is venomous.  I do find your comments quite venomous themselves, couched in a snide disparaging manner.   You will now be ignored.

 

 

 

[Don Jonas]

Why do you come to a political discussion board if you just make personal attacks and have a tantrum if someone disagrees with your extremist views?

I can see, however, that you'd be a little embarrassed about trying to push the false flag theory. That was low even for Trump supporters.

It would be delusional to suggest the Trump presidency as "moderate". Even his supporters would largely agree he is not that. So it's hardly insulting, snide, or a personal attack to suggest that. Perhaps you should do a little soul-searching and find where your rage is coming from. Maybe in the wake of Kavanaugh and all the right-wing terrorism, you're just angry because you know you're wrong.

Edited October 27, 2018 by Don Jonas

[betsy]

20 hours ago, scribblet said:

This bomber guy was a registered democrat for years, up until 2016,

So, he was a democrat when he threatened to bomb the electric company?

 

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....wonder what changed his mind.  

 

There lies the motive.   Yes, that would be interesting to know.

[Don Jonas]

It appears he was set off by the hysteria about the migrant caravan that was manufactured for the midterms. Once again, irresponsible people saying irresponsible things triggered a crazy gun owner and led to a tragic result.

[Michael Hardner]

26 minutes ago, Don Jonas said:

It appears he was set off by the hysteria about the migrant caravan that was manufactured for the midterms. Once again, irresponsible people saying irresponsible things triggered a crazy gun owner and led to a tragic result.

I don't know why this is so difficult for some to see.  Does this mean Trump was 'responsible' ?  No, but it means he is irresponsible.

[betsy]

I did some digging, and here are what i found:

 

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While the mainstream media quickly labels Cesar Sayoc as a bona fide, Trump-loving, conservative Republican, social media and internet investigation shows the alleged, “MAGA Bomber” listed as a registered Democrat since 1980, (only changing to Republican in 2016,) and reveals multiple social media posts hating Republicans and the GOP, bashing George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, posting photos of Bush and Cheney as “war criminals,” and praising Code Pink, “liberal women,” as “the beautiful women of the world.” And that’s only the beginning.

The arrest of 56-year old, Cesar Altieri Sayoc of Aventura, Florida, also known as Cesar Sayoc, or Cesar Altieri Randazzo, as he is known on facebook, on allegations he is responsible for the flurry of fake bombs sent to Democrat leaders just days before the 2018 midterm election, brought immediate identification of Sayoc as a diehard Trump supporter driving a pristine, unvandalized (despite multiple alleged trips through vehemently anti-Trump metropolitan areas, more on that later) “Trump Van” wrapped and plastered with Trump paraphernalia in what appears an over the top Trump tribute befitting a circus routine. Or, very likely, someone trying way too hard to appear a Donald Trump supporter.

CESAR SAYOC: ‘MAGA BOMBER’ FACEBOOK BETRAYS DEMOCRAT TRUMP INFILTRATOR, ANTI-GOP POSTS

 

 

I checked out facebook, and I got this:

***Read the posts below:

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...eri%20randazzo

 

 

Meh. I was wondering what of all people, an "American Indian" (which mainstream media claim he is), would have anything
against the Democrats?

The first time I saw his photo, and read his name.....I said, "Filipino!"
Well, that article proved me right. He has Philippine heritage.

Edited October 28, 2018 by betsy

[betsy]

No wonder that van was so.....in-your-face obvious!   It screams "I'M A REPUBLICAN!" 

 

How come no DEMOCRATS had ever called to report this van even waaaaaaaay before this whole thing happened?   You see crosshairs on former Presidents - and some prominent Denocrats - by an obvious Trump die-hard from the "looney" right wing.....you'd think every democrats who saw this van in a parking lot would be calling the police.....if not the FBI!

 

Crosshairs on former presidents!   Wouldn't the FBI be wanting to have a chart with this guy?   Just think about that!

 

Crosshairs on prominent Democrats, by a so obvious Trump fan from the looney right wing!

No DEMOCRATS had reported this van.....EVER?

I find that hard to believe.



It's not like it's easy to miss seeing this van! You can't say it's an "unmarked" vehicle either!


Could it be because it was never seen before......... except on that fateful day it was found?
It only came out on that day????

Edited October 28, 2018 by betsy

[Michael Hardner]

Yes, you should continue to do more 'digging' because the conspiracy theories that will eventually make him into a Democrat plant are likely just being written now.  Try in a few days.

[betsy]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yes, you should continue to do more 'digging' because the conspiracy theories that will eventually make him into a Democrat plant are likely just being written now.  Try in a few days.

That's one logical question:  how come no one had ever reported about this van?

 

His van is the reddest of red flags there is for someone who'll go ballistic!  Yet no one was concerned enough!   

 

He's a willing patsy.  They should check it out if he has any offshore account.  Mind you, it might be under another alias.

 

Edited October 28, 2018 by betsy

[Wilber]

25 minutes ago, betsy said:

That's one logical question:  how come no one had ever reported about this van?

 

His van is the reddest of red flags there is for someone who'll go ballistic!  Yet no one was concerned enough!   

 

He's a willing patsy.  They should check it out if he has any offshore account.  Mind you, it might be under another alias.

 

Lots of people commented on his van. The pizza place he delivered for wouldn't let him park it in view of the customers he was delivering to.

 

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“The van was kind of weird, stuff like: ‘Thank God we have a president with balls’ on the side of it,” Junior Herrera, an auto mechanic who works at the AutoZone shop, told the Guardian. Sayoc was a regular customer, he said, and was known to sleep outside overnight in his vehicle.

“He never spoke about anything political, he was always talking about car parts, you know? But he wouldn’t let you look inside the van, not even a peek. I helped him change the oil once, it was just, ‘Hey, I need this done’ and open the hood.’”

According to Debra Gureghian, Sayoc’s boss at a Fort Lauderdale pizzeria until he quit in January, he would deliver pizzas in his van but was only allowed to do so at night and was also told to park away from the business so customers would not see the vehicle.

“He was very angry at the world, at blacks, Jews, gays,” she told the Washington Post. “He always talked about: ‘If I had complete autonomy none of these gays or these blacks would survive.’”

She said she did not fire him because “good drivers are hard to find”.

 

 

Edited October 28, 2018 by Wilber

[dialamah]

18 minutes ago, betsy said:

That's one logical question:  how come no one had ever reported about this van?

His van is the reddest of red flags there is for someone who'll go ballistic!  Yet no one was concerned enough!   

Probably something to do with that whole "free speech" thing they have down south.  

 

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He's a willing patsy.  They should check it out if he has any offshore account.  Mind you, it might be under another alias.

Why is it so important to you Trumpsters that this guy not be a Trump supporter?  Why can't you simply condemn his actions and affirm that Trumpsters are not about violence, as Trump himself did, publically?  Why is it necessary to the Trumpster contingent that he be a disguised Democrat?   

[Michael Hardner]

57 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Lots of people commented on his van. The pizza place he delivered for wouldn't let him park it in view of the customers he was delivering to.

Next, Betsy says 'Really? Let me reconsider my opinion in light of these facts'

Or not.

[Argus]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Next, Betsy says 'Really? Let me reconsider my opinion in light of these facts'

Or not.

No, she'll instead marshal her array of colourful, large fonts and emojis to properly convey her contempt for those who suggest logic or common sense.

[Michael Hardner]

52 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Why is it so important to you Trumpsters that this guy not be a Trump supporter?  

My question is when are they going to openly acclaim these people as heroes and defenders of America?  After all, the Pittsburgh killer took a stand against a group that was promoting an invasion !

 

Sound ludicrous, but this will be the next step.

[betsy]

5 hours ago, Wilber said:

Lots of people commented on his van. The pizza place he delivered for wouldn't let him park it in view of the customers he was delivering to.

 

Lol......Heck,  his boss must also be certifiable!  

 

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“He was very angry at the world, at blacks, Jews, gays,” she told the Washington Post. “He always talked about: ‘If I had complete autonomy none of these gays or these blacks would survive.’”

She said she did not fire him because “good drivers are hard to find”.

 

 

Don't you find that odd???? 

 

This woman will gladly sic this guy to deliver pizza to blacks, Jews and gays......knowing how he feels about these people!   She'd willingly take the risk endangering her own clientele!

She'd rather have a a DANGEROUS TICKING TIME BOMB of a lunatic driver - because, "good drivers are hard to find!" 

 

Get outa here!   She must be looney too!  

or......

 

Edited October 28, 2018 by betsy

[betsy]

Accept it, guys.   Just like the Kavanaugh circus.....something is also very wrong with this picture.  

 

It doesn't add up.   It stinks! 

 

Edited October 28, 2018 by betsy

[Don Jonas]

I agree that it is just like Kavanaugh: an open and shut case where Republicans desperately try to gaslight reality and change the story, no matter how obviously true it is. 

[Argus]

29 minutes ago, betsy said:

Accept it, guys.   Just like the Kavanaugh circus.....something is also very wrong with this picture.  

 

It doesn't add up.   It stinks! 

I would advise seeking medical care. A problem with the nose is often a symptom of larger issues related to your brain.

[betsy]

8 minutes ago, Argus said:

I would advise seeking medical care. A problem with the nose is often a symptom of larger issues related to your brain.

Yep.  That's a good idea, Argus......when you can't smell anything - especially what stinks - that could be a symptom!

Edited October 28, 2018 by betsy

[Wilber]

Right on schedule with the coloured fonts and big emojis.