Racist POS Just Deserts

[taxme]

On 8/18/2018 at 1:17 PM, Queenmandy85 said:

Ever hear of the IRA or the B- Specials?

The IRA were not real Christians okay. Real Christians don't go around killing other Christians or anyone else. The IRA were nothing more than a bunch of non-Christian terrorist killers. 

What is "B - Specials? 

[Michael Hardner]

37 minutes ago, taxme said:

1. It is not normal for the white people of Canada to want to have themselves replaced by non-whites.

2. I am but one of tens of thousands who could care less about what you think.

3. ...turned your back on white British/European Canada. My opinion of course. 

4. If there is no white culture than I guess that there also can be no black culture, Asian culture, Muslim culture or native Indian culture than, right?   

 

1.  No, it's not normal for someone to look at another person in the population as 'replacing' them.  When a mother walks by with a baby in a carriage do you think "My GOD, there goes my replacement !".  It's weird.

2.  Ok, great.  Out of thirty-something million I will take those numbers.

3.  Meanwhile you are taking your marching orders from someone named "Bernier". 

4. There is no "black" or "African" culture but a multiplicity of cultures.  You can use those terms but it's mostly nonsensical when you talk about culture.  There are native Indian peoples just as white peoples but there is no "white" culture and there is no "native Indian" language.  Whites are Jewish, Muslim, Christian - traditionally - and come from Europe and Asia... why are you picking the UK as their homeland ?

 

[Michael Hardner]

35 minutes ago, taxme said:

The IRA were not real Christians okay.  

This is known as the 'True Scotsman' fallacy.  We point out some Christians to you and they - all of a sudden - aren't "True Christians".  Is it ok for us to say terrorists aren't "True Muslims" ?  Of course not.

[taxme]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1.  No, it's not normal for someone to look at another person in the population as 'replacing' them.  When a mother walks by with a baby in a carriage do you think "My GOD, there goes my replacement !".  It's weird.

2.  Ok, great.  Out of thirty-something million I will take those numbers.

3.  Meanwhile you are taking your marching orders from someone named "Bernier". 

4. There is no "black" or "African" culture but a multiplicity of cultures.  You can use those terms but it's mostly nonsensical when you talk about culture.  There are native Indian peoples just as white peoples but there is no "white" culture and there is no "native Indian" language.  Whites are Jewish, Muslim, Christian - traditionally - and come from Europe and Asia... why are you picking the UK as their homeland ?

 

1. Some of your replies are quite weird indeed.  

2. I was just guessing. There could be thousands or maybe there could be millions for all I know. I would prefer to go with the latter of course. 

3. Well, you appear to me to be taking your marching orders from your feminist prime mistake of yours called Trudeau. At least Bernier has willing to talk about our immigration fiasco and crisis and the mess that our immigration problem and system is in today unlike your prime mistake of Canada who has put a gag order on the RCMP and the lying liberal media to not post anything on how many criminal illegals are entering Canada illegally every day. Indeed I would prefer to take my marching orders from Bernier rather than that traitor prime mistake of yours. 

4. Canada was founded and settled and built up by the British people and later with the aid of people from other European countries and those two should be the only majority cultures that all people should assimilate into. Why do so many different people from all over the non-white world today not fight for and join in our British/European culture? Today we see so many non-white people immigrating to Canada who really do not need to become a part of our Canadian British/European culture, traditions and heritages and now are being encouraged to keep their own so called home land culture. The biggest mistake this country has ever done was to start flooding Canada with so many non British/European people and their home land cultures who are not culturally compatible with our British/European ways of life and doing things. Many now fight against joining the white British/European Canadian crew. There should be no foreign cultures and people that should be allowed to immigrate to a country and not join in to the culture of the host people of that country. There should be only one language signage on business premises and it should all be written in English only. Otherwise that foreign culture who puts up signs in their own language is now giving the finger to the host people and their culture. 

Spell check eroor time, please.  

[taxme]

38 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

This is known as the 'True Scotsman' fallacy.  We point out some Christians to you and they - all of a sudden - aren't "True Christians".  Is it ok for us to say terrorists aren't "True Muslims" ?  Of course not.

Get real will you. True Christians do not go to war and go kill other Christians. Those protestants and catholics that fought and killed each other in Britain and Ireland supposedly over religion many decades ago cannot be called or considered to be Christians at all. Christians do not go to war with other Christians and start slaughtering each other. That war was all about power and control and the fight for Irish freedom from Britain and nothing more. It had nothing to do with Christianity at all. Just one gang of terrorist killers against another gang of terrorist killers.

Muslims are pretty much all to be considered terrorists because they believe their Quran that says that all infidels must be killed if they cannot be converted to join Islam. There is no real and true Christian belief or where it says in the bible that all non Christians are infidels and must be killed. Those old Christian days of a thousand years ago are long gone now but only Islam still carries on and believes in that archaic and ancient belief that all non Muslims must be killed and right up to this day this is still being taught. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

16 minutes ago, taxme said:

1. True Christians do not go to war and go kill other Christians.

2. Muslims are pretty much all to be considered terrorists because they believe their Quran that says that all infidels must be killed if they cannot be converted to join Islam. 

 

1. I taught you the True Scotsman fallacy and you are actually using it.  This has made my day.

2. I'm going to rename this the True Christian fallacy when I am dealing with you.  I hope I remember.

[Michael Hardner]

34 minutes ago, taxme said:

1. Some of your replies are quite weird indeed.  

2. I was just guessing. There could be thousands or maybe there could be millions for all I know. 

3. I would prefer to take my marching orders from Bernier rather than that traitor prime mistake of yours. 

4. Canada was founded and settled and built up by the British people and later with the aid of people from other European countries and those two should be the only majority cultures that all people should assimilate into.

 

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2. No... thousands sounds right.
3. I don't follow Trudeau.  Between the two of us, you are the fan of a Frenchman.  But, hey, at least he's white right ?
4. Canada founded by settled by the British - with the aid of other European countries... and those two...
    Wrong, wrong, and even the math is wrong here not just the geography.  You have already made me laugh enough, I will not read the rest of your post...

[taxme]

13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. I taught you the True Scotsman fallacy and you are actually using it.  This has made my day.

2. I'm going to rename this the True Christian fallacy when I am dealing with you.  I hope I remember.

1. Anytime I can make your day and not get corrected on some spelling erorrs that I may have made is good enough for me.   You always make my day especially when I get to correct you on one of your spelling errors. LOL. 

2. But you cannot even remember how to spell countless. I hope that you and I will remember that for always.  

[taxme]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

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2. No... thousands sounds right.
3. I don't follow Trudeau.  Between the two of us, you are the fan of a Frenchman.  But, hey, at least he's white right ?
4. Canada founded by settled by the British - with the aid of other European countries... and those two...
    Wrong, wrong, and even the math is wrong here not just the geography.  You have already made me laugh enough, I will not read the rest of your post...

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2. Millions sounds even better. World wide there are probably many millions just like me. 

3. Okay, Soros then. Yup, french man Bernier is okay in my books. A real and true Canadian nationalist patriot. White is always right in my books. No racism intended. Too bad for you, eh MH? 

4. I know for sure that Canada was not founded by Muslims or other non white races of people. I am very glad to have burst your multicultural bubble. Poof. Oh no, don't tell that not only my my Englishes is bad here but now my math and geography is also? Boy, are you ever going to be kept busy correcting the many erorrs that I will be making here. C'mon, read the rest of the post. You may find an eroor or three. Chuckle-chuckle. 

[Queenmandy85]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

The IRA were not real Christians okay. Real Christians don't go around killing other Christians or anyone else. The IRA were nothing more than a bunch of non-Christian terrorist killers. 

What is "B - Specials? 

I agree. So-called "islamic" terrorists are not real Muslims, Hindu terrorists are not real Hindus and I don't think the Stern Gang were representative of Judaism. One of the laws attributed to Moses in the 10 Commandments was "Thou shalt not kill." These laws are recognized by Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. 

The B-specials were the Ulster special constabulary that terrorized Catholic neighbourhoods, sparking the IRA rising in Belfast and Londonderry.

[Michael Hardner]

41 minutes ago, taxme said:

I know for sure that Canada was not founded by Muslims or other non white races of people.  

Too bad there are no books that tell us what happened....

[Argus]

24 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I agree. So-called "islamic" terrorists are not real Muslims, Hindu terrorists are not real Hindus and I don't think the Stern Gang were representative of Judaism. One of the laws attributed to Moses in the 10 Commandments was "Thou shalt not kill." These laws are recognized by Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. 

The B-specials were the Ulster special constabulary that terrorized Catholic neighbourhoods, sparking the IRA rising in Belfast and Londonderry.

You are again attempting to suggest that any and all conflicts are based on religion. The Irish/English problem had little to do with religious beliefs and the violence was rejected by the Catholic church.

On the other hand, we have seen innumerable cases where Muslim religious leaders have fomented violence and terrorism. We have direct citations in the Koran calling for violence and death against unbelievers, apostates, blasphemers and homosexuals. To suggest that somehow or other those who are directly obeying these dictates are not Muslims seems bizarre, at best. And given they claim they are fighting a holy war to force a world wide Islamic caliphate - which hundreds of millions of Muslims support, your claim is absurd.

[Queenmandy85]

31 minutes ago, Argus said:

citations in the Koran calling for violence and death against unbelievers, apostates, blasphemers and homosexuals.

So does Leviticus.

The Koran and the Bible are both full of great messages but also passages of evil. ISIS was basically a gang of bank robbers that made the big score. Islam was just an excuse. 

32 minutes ago, Argus said:

You are again attempting to suggest that any and all conflicts are based on religion.

No, I am saying people use religion to their own ends. Their action have nothing to do with the will of God. Did God command the Christians to kill everyone in Jerusalem, or the mutual slaughter between Muslims and Hindus, or most other conflicts "in the name of God." 

That is all I have to say on this subject.

[DogOnPorch]

8 hours ago, turningrite said:

Undoubtedly, the IRA's objective was to attack institutions on British soil, including in Northern Ireland, that it saw as complicit with or emblematic of British colonial power. It also had a policy of providing prior notice of its attacks in order to limit human carnage.

 

There are indeed exceptions...like when they went after Thatcher. No spilling the beans...obviously. 

The kind of explosive used matters...as well...if we're talking bombs. The IRA and Provos didn't have great connections for weapons for much of their existence. So TNT was often the one used which is far less lethal than today's modern high velocity explosives.

 

[Argus]

14 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

So does Leviticus.

Which is IRRELEVANT. No major Christian church accepts that Leviticus is literal or should be acted upon. Nor do the Jews. Both religions had a reformation period where such views were discarded. Islam has never had such a reformation period. So they continue to embrace the violent language of their religious text.

 

 

[Goddess]

14 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

So does Leviticus.

The Koran and the Bible are both full of great messages but also passages of evil. ISIS was basically a gang of bank robbers that made the big score. Islam was just an excuse. 

You, and everyone else who uses this to excuse Islamic violence, are incorrect.

Christians are taught that Jesus was "the end of the law". (Rom. 10:4)  That is why there are no more daily/weekly/monthly/yearly animal sacrifices, women are not segregated during menstruation and no stonings and beheadings are performed any more.

He then instituted the 2 main commands - 1.  Love God.  2.  Love your neighbour as yourself.  "Those who use the sword will die by the sword". etc  There was to be no more waging physical religious wars on other nations.

That is what mainstream Christianity is taught.  How well they individually follow those commands, is up for debate.  But since the coming of Jesus there is no command in the Bible for Christians to wage any kind of physical religious war against non-believers, as there is in Islam.  Christians are told to wait for Jesus to arrive again to deal with non-believers.  The Koran is filled mostly with instructions on how to subjugate, dominate and terrorize non-believers until they conform.

That is a very big difference.

Do all Muslims follow th advice to subjugate, dominate and terrorize?  No, thank goodness. 

But to deny that these instructions are written in the Koran and have never been updated or reformed and to claim that there are similar instructions to Christians is both incorrect and willfully ignorant.

 

[taxme]

18 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Too bad there are no books that tell us what happened....

Like what? 

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, taxme said:

Like what? 

That's what I'm saying - it doesn't exist !  ;How could such a thing exist ?

[dialamah]

6 hours ago, Goddess said:

But to deny that these instructions are written in the Koran and have never been updated or reformed and to claim that there are similar instructions to Christians is both incorrect and willfully ignorant.

 

I happen to think it's willfully ignorant to pretend that the vast majority (a billion plus) of Muslims who follow Koranic instructions against murder and terrorism can be dismissed as the true representation of Islam in favor of what a small minority (around 100,000) of politically motivated and/or ignorant and/or thrill seekers and/or mercenaries claim is Islam.

[Goddess]

14 hours ago, dialamah said:

I happen to think it's willfully ignorant to pretend that the vast majority (a billion plus) of Muslims who follow Koranic instructions against murder and terrorism can be dismissed as the true representation of Islam in favor of what a small minority (around 100,000) of politically motivated and/or ignorant and/or thrill seekers and/or mercenaries claim is Islam.

I did not dismiss them.  You, as usual. chose to reword my post into something else:

21 hours ago, Goddess said:

Do all Muslims follow the advice to subjugate, dominate and terrorize?  No, thank goodness. 

And your "small minority" has been debunked over and over.

Edited August 22, 2018 by Goddess

[dialamah]

25 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I did not dismiss them. 

You dismiss that peaceful majority regularly, as you have again right here:

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And your "small minority"

Even if I double the estimate in the link I provided, a couple hundred thousand violent jihadists vs 1.4 billion non-violent Muslims is a minority, regardless of how the anti-Islam lobby wants to claim.  Even if there were 500,000 active Muslim terrorists, that would still be less than 1% of all the Muslims in the world.  That is a tiny minority and those who think that tiny minority is representative of all Muslims is being willfully ignorant.  

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 has been debunked over and over

Lies debunk nothing.  Facts demonstrate that my point is correct:  Islamic terrorism is carried out by a tiny minority of people who claim it is a requirement of Islam.

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You, as usual. chose to reword my post into something else:

Nah, I just felt it was important to point out where the anti-Islamists fail in their assessment of how prevalent terrorism is in Islam or that it is an integral part of Islam, just as you felt it was important to point out where QueenMandy fails in her argument.   

Edited August 22, 2018 by dialamah

[Goddess]

23 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Even if I double the estimate in the link I provided, a couple hundred thousand violent jihadists vs 1.4 billion non-violent Muslims is a minority, regardless of how the anti-Islam lobby wants to claim.

And more and more are getting radicalized every day because even though they may be non-violent at present, all the polls that have been posted here over and over show that the majority support the views of the violent ones - honour killings, subjugation of women, death for those who leave Islam, killing those who disagree with Islam or make a joke about the Big Mo etc.  They just don't want to do the dirty work.

You do not view Muslims who hold these views as extreme or radical. You do not accept that holding these views leads to violence.  Some of the rest of do.  Holding these extreme and radical beliefs, even without acting on them, perpetuates and gives approval to those who do.  Holding those views, but not acting on the violence might make a Muslim "moderate" to you, but when Christians hold those views suddenly they are extreme and radical to you.  But  Muslims who hold those views are not radical to you - until they act on them.  I disagree.  Holding those beliefs is the first step in radicalization and violence - for Islam and for Christianity.

This is where we differ.

Edited August 22, 2018 by Goddess

[Argus]

16 hours ago, dialamah said:

I happen to think it's willfully ignorant to pretend that the vast majority (a billion plus) of Muslims who follow Koranic instructions against murder and terrorism can be dismissed as the true representation of Islam i

Just what opportunity do most Muslims have to engage in violence against non-Muslims? There are no strong Muslim states that can attack their non-Muslim neighbors. Pakistan would be slaughtering the Hindus of India if they were strong enough but they're not. The Muslim nations around Israel would be slaughtering Jews if they cold but the can't. If Sultan Erdogan thought he could invade Europe successfully he'd likely do it. Muslim states are fairly weak and have to be wary of what the world's superpowers say and might do. So their opportunities to attack and spread the word of Allah are quite limited. And we can't expect some peasant in rural Iran or Egypt to trudge into the city and get an airplane ride to Europe to go on jihad when he can barely afford a one-way bus ride. Besides, he's not likely to accomplish much of anything.

 

[dialamah]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

Holding those beliefs is the first step in radicalization and violence - for Islam and for Christianity.

This is where we differ.

In my view, radicals have several characteristics in common, most notably a desire to belong, to have an identity that feels important.  The ideology, whether Christian, Islamic, White Supremacy or any other violent group, is essentially irrelevant to these people's desire to find belonging and identity.  

[Goddess]

6 minutes ago, dialamah said:

In my view, radicals have several characteristics in common, most notably a desire to belong, to have an identity that feels important.  The ideology, whether Christian, Islamic, White Supremacy or any other violent group, is essentially irrelevant to these people's desire to find belonging and identity.  

Again, we differ.  To me, adherance to a violent ideology is NOT irrelevant.  And terrorists are motivated by more than just "wanting to fit in somewhere."

Edited August 22, 2018 by Goddess