Michael Hardner Posted August 18, 2018 Author Report Posted August 18, 2018 4 hours ago, taxme said: 1. There has to be some kind of an agenda going on in this country as to why multiculturalism and diversity are being pushed as much as it is in Canada today. 2. There is no good reason as to why the white people of Canada are asking for themselves to be replaced by the many dozens of other races of people out there that are immigrating to Canada in massive numbers. 1. Yes - it's call being normal, and normal people not giving a shit about someone's skin colour and letting it define their entire existence... Nobody cares the way you do, just face it. 2. There's no white "culture". Your type used to complain about the French, and in fact you still do. Why doesn't your white culture apply to them too ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Queenmandy85 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Posted August 18, 2018 On 8/3/2018 at 2:10 PM, taxme said: When was the last time we heard of some Christian walking down some street and started shooting dozens of innocent people sitting down in restaurants or running innocent people down with a van on the street? I can't recall ever hearing about some Christian doing anything like this? Just saying. Ever hear of the IRA or the B- Specials? Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Posted August 18, 2018 17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Yes - it's call being normal, and normal people not giving a shit about someone's skin colour and letting it define their entire existence... Nobody cares the way you do, just face it. Really ? Have you ever been to China ? Or Japan ? Or India ? "Nobody" includes a lot of people on this planet for whom you do not speak. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted August 18, 2018 Report Posted August 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Ever hear of the IRA or the B- Specials? That was NOT a religious conflict. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
turningrite Posted August 19, 2018 Report Posted August 19, 2018 7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Really ? Have you ever been to China ? Or Japan ? Or India ? "Nobody" includes a lot of people on this planet for whom you do not speak. The Washington Post published an interesting piece a few years ago rating the world's countries on their tolerance. Lebanon and India were the two worst, while the Anglo-Western, Scandinavian and several Latin American countries were the most tolerant. Yet, at whom are screams of racism usually directed? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bb24c41d56f7 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted August 19, 2018 Author Report Posted August 19, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 4:43 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Really ? Have you ever been to China ? Or Japan ? Or India ? "Nobody" includes a lot of people on this planet for whom you do not speak. I only know what's normal where I live, I admit. Cross burning, though, for sure isn't and I live with a lot of immigrants too. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 19, 2018 Report Posted August 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I only know what's normal where I live, I admit. Cross burning, though, for sure isn't and I live with a lot of immigrants too. Even cross-burning has a legitimate, "multicultural" meaning and history....starting in Scotland and used in Ontario for the War of 1812. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Michael Hardner Posted August 19, 2018 Author Report Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Even cross-burning has a legitimate, "multicultural" meaning and history....starting in Scotland and used in Ontario for the War of 1812. You know more about it than me, which is understandable. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 19, 2018 Report Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: You know more about it than me, which is understandable. No, I used America's Google and Wikipedia platforms....just like Canadians do. There are more perspectives on such things than just your own. Edited August 19, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Michael Hardner Posted August 19, 2018 Author Report Posted August 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No, I used America's Google and Wikipedia platforms....just like Canadians do. There are more perspectives on such things than just your own. I'm Canadian so I'm inundated with American perspectives. I can only speak with authority about my own experiences in this regard. Taxme and others don't seem to live in the same area as I do - which paradoxically includes the most immigrants - as they describe scenarios (or 'disasters' as PIK described) that don't fit my experiences. Maybe you have some American perspective to add at this point ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 19, 2018 Report Posted August 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm Canadian so I'm inundated with American perspectives. I can only speak with authority about my own experiences in this regard. Taxme and others don't seem to live in the same area as I do - which paradoxically includes the most immigrants - as they describe scenarios (or 'disasters' as PIK described) that don't fit my experiences. Maybe you have some American perspective to add at this point ? We all have different perspectives to add on such issues...and there are even more to be found in cultures around the world. I find it ironic that a monolithic view would be presented in the context of diversity and multiculturalism®. For instance, I am not offended by Canadian, Union, or Confederate flags/pennants because I understand their history and context....others seize upon them as symbols of hate and bigotry for political purposes. Others members have a point of view with which you may disagree, but that doesn't make them invalid. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Michael Hardner Posted August 19, 2018 Author Report Posted August 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Others members have a point of view with which you may disagree, but that doesn't make them invalid. I didn't say they were invalid. What I am saying is that people are presenting a viewpoint that is, to my opinion, widely held and quite natural in the city where I live as being 'programmed, brainwashed' and so forth. I won't accept the populist elitist view that so-called normal people can't accept immigrants, or having people tell me how to think. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 19, 2018 Report Posted August 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I didn't say they were invalid. What I am saying is that people are presenting a viewpoint that is, to my opinion, widely held and quite natural in the city where I live as being 'programmed, brainwashed' and so forth. I won't accept the populist elitist view that so-called normal people can't accept immigrants, or having people tell me how to think. OK, but can you accept that there are also plenty of "normal" people in the city where you live who feel differently about such things, many of whom are afraid to voice there opinions ? Nobody is telling you how to think, and others only ask the same in return. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Michael Hardner Posted August 19, 2018 Author Report Posted August 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: 1) OK, but can you accept that there are also plenty of "normal" people in the city where you live who feel differently about such things, many of whom are afraid to voice there opinions ? 2) Nobody is telling you how to think, and others only ask the same in return. 1) Sure 2) I accepted media bias as a thing a long time ago so it's not my thing. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Queenmandy85 Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 5:52 PM, Argus said: That was NOT a religious conflict. They were just as much arms of the Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant Church as ISIS represents Islam. Like the IRA, ISIS and their ilk are criminals and have nothing to do with religion. The individuals involved in terror are just social deficients who use religion as a cover for their own inferiority complexes. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
DogOnPorch Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 50 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: They were just as much arms of the Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant Church as ISIS represents Islam. Like the IRA, ISIS and their ilk are criminals and have nothing to do with religion. The individuals involved in terror are just social deficients who use religion as a cover for their own inferiority complexes. The IRA never lined-up civilians by a river...shot them in their heads...and pushed the bodies into the river. Several thousand judging by the blood...if you're asking 'how many'. That would be more than the IRA ever killed. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm Canadian so I'm inundated with American perspectives. I can only speak with authority about my own experiences in this regard. Taxme and others don't seem to live in the same area as I do - which paradoxically includes the most immigrants - as they describe scenarios (or 'disasters' as PIK described) that don't fit my experiences. You know, for some people living in an area outnumbered by immigrants IS a disaster. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said: They were just as much arms of the Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant Church as ISIS represents Islam. Drivel. ISIS represent themselves as holy warriors fighting on behalf of God and Gods will. Their actions are done according to the writings of Islam, and I believe at one point a poll showed 98% of Saudis, as an example, found that what they were doing was entirely in keeping with Islam. The IRA didn't even have the approval of the Catholic church, and it's members were often excommunicated. This was a purely secular fight between Irish and English invaders and colonists, who happened to be of different religions. Yes, back in the day, centuries ago, there was a more religious element to it, but that faded away by the time the 20th century rolled around. 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Hardner Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Posted August 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, Argus said: You know, for some people living in an area outnumbered by immigrants IS a disaster. I acknowledged that with BC. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
DogOnPorch Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, Argus said: Drivel. ISIS represent themselves as holy warriors fighting on behalf of God and Gods will. Their actions are done according to the writings of Islam, and I believe at one point a poll showed 98% of Saudis, as an example, found that what they were doing was entirely in keeping with Islam. The IRA didn't even have the approval of the Catholic church, and it's members were often excommunicated. This was a purely secular fight between Irish and English invaders and colonists, who happened to be of different religions. Yes, back in the day, centuries ago, there was a more religious element to it, but that faded away by the time the 20th century rolled around. The IRA in my experience tended to pick targets related to either the British military, police or government (including royals). Religion didn't enter into the equation, generally. Any number of Catholics could have been in Old Bailey the day they attacked it...for example. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
turningrite Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: The IRA in my experience tended to pick targets related to either the British military, police or government (including royals). Religion didn't enter into the equation, generally. Any number of Catholics could have been in Old Bailey the day they attacked it...for example. Undoubtedly, the IRA's objective was to attack institutions on British soil, including in Northern Ireland, that it saw as complicit with or emblematic of British colonial power. It also had a policy of providing prior notice of its attacks in order to limit human carnage. Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 A 19 year old Catholic woman ran out into the street after a soldier had been shot. She cradled his head while he died. Gerry Adams sent his lads around and blew her brains out. Yah, what a hero. Charles the Great offered 4000 prisoners the opportunity to convert to Christianity. When they declined, he had them all beheaded. People have a great capacity for evil. Don't blame God. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Argus Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said: A 19 year old Catholic woman ran out into the street after a soldier had been shot. She cradled his head while he died. Gerry Adams sent his lads around and blew her brains out. Yah, what a hero. Cite? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
taxme Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 8:22 PM, turningrite said: I suspect Scheer won't turf Bernier from caucus because it's likely Bernier's views are widely supported in the party. So far, Scheer is trying to sit on the fence, which is probably a bad strategy for him and his party. If the 2016 CBC Angus-Reid poll that indicated widespread discontent with open-ended multiculturalism still hold, as I suspect they do, the CPC would probably see an uptick in the polls were it to embrace Bernier's critique. It sure didn't hurt Doug Ford when he made his "take care of our own" remark during the recent provincial election. He was loudly and predictably criticized by the hectoring progressive class for the comment but if anything it may have bolstered his support. Scheer is probably terrified to move away from the consensus position promoted by the mainstream party cabal in Ottawa. But he shoudn't be. He'll never win over the kind of ideologically rigid progressive voters he's afraid of alienating in any case. As far as I know Scheer has not given an opinion at all as to where he stands on this immigration fiasco and crisis issue. I cannot see him losing people over commenting on our present day immigration problem where tens of thousands of criminal illegals are crossing our borders every day illegally. Canadians want to see and hear from their politicians who are not afraid to speak political incorrectness and stand up for Canada and Canadian values. Scheer should then be pointing out the amount of taxpayer's tax dollars that has and still is costing the Canadian taxpayer's every day because of all this illegal criminality going on. Be up front with we the people and say it as it is. That will get a politician votes. It is the liberals/socialists pro immigration special interest groups who are behind the push for more legal and illegal immigration. It is not something that the majority of Canadians want to see continue on. Scheer will never win if he just continues to sit in the corner like a coward and wimp and say nothing. Scheer needs to become another Trump and call it as we all see it. It's his choice. Do or die. 1 Quote
taxme Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 8:25 PM, Michael Hardner said: 1. Yes - it's call being normal, and normal people not giving a shit about someone's skin colour and letting it define their entire existence... Nobody cares the way you do, just face it. 2. There's no white "culture". Your type used to complain about the French, and in fact you still do. Why doesn't your white culture apply to them too ? 1. It is not normal for the white people of Canada to want to have themselves replaced by non-whites. Only pro multicultural fools and idiots are in favor of white genocide to happen in Canada. There are plenty of people who care. I am but one of tens of thousands who could care less about what you think. You appear to be a part of and all in favor of this present day multicultural program and agenda crap of turning Canada into a third world hell hole. No one in their right mind should ever be listening to pro multicultural people like you. You have turned your back on white British/European Canada. My opinion of course. 2. If there is no white culture than I guess that there also can be no black culture, Asian culture, Muslim culture or native Indian culture than, right? So, why are white people being forced to promote and save other non-white cultures at the tune of hundreds of millions of tax dollars every year who are really not there? Funny though that we are always being constantly told that there are those cultures mentioned above that are alive and well and do exist in Canada. There just is no white culture. Strange indeed. But then again you are very strange. LOL. I can bitch about any white people that I want to bitch about. If I do not like some white people for whatever reason well too bad for you and them. But what white culture? You just said that there is no white culture? HELLO? It's time for you to go have an old mans nap. Quote
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