Jerusalem is Israel's Capital...

[kactus]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

At least Cuba gave Jews a chance.  Canada simply told them to fuck-off

Exactlimo!

Same can be said for Nazi Germany and their culprit Christian pals in Bosnia and elsewhere killing the jews....

[GostHacked]

On 1/29/2018 at 6:16 PM, DogOnPorch said:

And since terrorists don't get their own Jew Free terror states...wait...or do they in your world?

What the fuck does that supposed to mean?

[DogOnPorch]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

At least Cuba gave Jews a chance.  Canada simply told them to fuck-off

 

Cuba gave them a chance? Cuba wouldn't allow them off the boat.

Cuba wanted to milk the rich Jews...when it turned out they were poor...bye-bye.

Interesting you find that acceptable.

[DogOnPorch]

18 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

What the fuck does that supposed to mean?

 

You do want a country for the PLO/Hamas. Or have you changed your mind?

[DogOnPorch]

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Edited January 31, 2018 by DogOnPorch

[GostHacked]

7 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You do want a country for the PLO/Hamas. Or have you changed your mind?

Where did I say any of that? Quote it or have a nice cup of fuck off.

[Hudson Jones]

On 1/29/2018 at 7:49 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

This is the reality. When Iraqis invaded Iran their plan was to annexe the oil province of Khuzastan but they were militarily defeated before that plan put in action. Not to mention Soviet invasions into Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan. International laws are only for Israelis?

So if Iraq had defeated Iran in the war and conquered part of Iran, then you'd shrug and say, oh well, they won?

[GostHacked]

Just now, Hudson Jones said:

So if Iraq had defeated Iran in the war and conquered part of Iran, then you'd shrug and say, oh well, they won?

I wonder what happened to the rhetoric about Russia's taking over of Crimea.

[DogOnPorch]

19 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Where did I say any of that? Quote it or have a nice cup of fuck off.

 

Do you support a "Two State Solution"?

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

Cuba gave them a chance? Cuba wouldn't allow them off the boat.

Bullshit, Cuba allowed 22 Jews off the boat. 

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Cuba wanted to milk the rich Jews...when it turned out they were poor...bye-bye.

That's right and then Cuba sent them our way, escorted - ahem - straight past every US port by the USCG.  We, in turn, promptly sent them back to the Nazis where a couple hundred of them died in Hitler's ovens. 

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Interesting you find that acceptable.

Who said it was acceptable?  What's interesting is that you think Canada was the better country. If anything Cuba was the Shining Beacon compared to their northern neighbours.

Of course King was a Liberal so perhaps you could blame communists.

Edited February 1, 2018 by eyeball

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

Cuba wanted to milk the rich Jews...when it turned out they were poor...bye-bye.

You see a lot of that when it comes to allowing wealthy immigrants in these days too....it's fuck-off if you're poor...and good riddance according to some.

Did you know that Canada regarded the Jewish passengers of the St Louis as immigrants and not refugees?  Perhaps you should use that to get us off the hook. We were afraid and concerned about preserving our values and protecting our communities from bogus refugees.  How could anyone fault us for that right?

Edited February 1, 2018 by eyeball

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Bullshit, Cuba allowed 22 Jews off the boat. 

That's right and then Cuba sent them our way, escorted - ahem - straight past every US port by the USCG.  We, in turn, promptly sent them back to the Nazis where a couple hundred of them died in Hitler's ovens. 

Who said it was acceptable?  What's interesting is that you think Canada was the better country. If anything Cuba was the Shining Beacon compared to their northern neighbours.

Of course King was a Liberal so perhaps you could blame communists.

 

Jews with valid US visas and who paid their bribe. Cuba didn't want to overly offend the USA.

 

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You see a lot of that when it comes to allowing wealthy immigrants in these days too....it's fuck-off if you're poor...and good riddance according to some.

Did you know that Canada regarded the Jewish passengers of the St Louis as immigrants and not refugees?  Perhaps you should use that to get us off the hook. We were afraid and concerned about preserving our values and protecting our communities from bogus refugees.  How could anyone fault us for that right?

 

I believe the plan was to wait it out in Cuban waters until the USA renewed the annual immigration intake which was not very high at all at the time. The Cubans put an end to that. Not Canada...despicable as the government of the time was.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Jews with valid US visas and who paid their bribe. Cuba didn't want to overly offend the USA.

Bribe? Don't you mean Immigration Bonds?  In Canada Immigration officials call these bribes security deposits. We routinely require them from foreign nationals.    https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/visitors/security-deposits-guarantees.html

Cuba gave Jews a chance to come up with a bond and Canada didn't.  

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I believe the plan was to wait it out in Cuban waters until the USA renewed the annual immigration intake which was not very high at all at the time. The Cubans put an end to that. Not Canada......despicable as the government of the time was.

Almost as despicable as the history salad you're serving up tonight.

Edited February 1, 2018 by eyeball

[GostHacked]

12 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Do you support a "Two State Solution"?

According to you that's not for me to decide. Interesting you answer questions with questions.   But for the record, yes I do support a two state solution. I am sure you can twist the hell out of that though to make it appear that I said something else.  Go for it.

[DogOnPorch]

7 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

According to you that's not for me to decide. Interesting you answer questions with questions.   But for the record, yes I do support a two state solution. I am sure you can twist the hell out of that though to make it appear that I said something else.  Go for it.

If one is for a "Two State Solution", one is FOR giving Hamas and the PLO their own terror state...not that they don't already. Gaza for example.

 

 

[DogOnPorch]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

Bribe? Don't you mean Immigration Bonds?  In Canada Immigration officials call these bribes security deposits. We routinely require them from foreign nationals.    https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/visitors/security-deposits-guarantees.html

Cuba gave Jews a chance to come up with a bond and Canada didn't.  

Almost as despicable as the history salad you're serving up tonight.

I can invent any number of bonds and fees if I was head of the Cuban government.

I can term these bribes "bonds" and "fees", as well.

At least Canada didn't steal their money.

Edited February 1, 2018 by DogOnPorch

[GostHacked]

26 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

If one is for a "Two State Solution", one is FOR giving Hamas and the PLO their own terror state...not that they don't already. Gaza for example.

 

 

Negative.

[DogOnPorch]

8 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Negative.

 

Uhhhh....yeah. That's who is there.

[Rue]

On 1/31/2018 at 12:39 PM, kactus said:

Exactlimo!

Same can be said for Nazi Germany and their culprit Christian pals in Bosnia and elsewhere killing the jews....

http://greyfalcon.us/Kosovo and Bosnia During World War II.htm

http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/yugoslavia_collaboration.htm

Above are just two of thousands of sites that document the Bosnian Muslim Nazis and what they did during WW2.

[Rue]

3 hours ago, GostHacked said:

According to you that's not for me to decide. Interesting you answer questions with questions.   But for the record, yes I do support a two state solution. I am sure you can twist the hell out of that though to make it appear that I said something else.  Go for it.

Your words on this forum speak for themselves and whether the above is a subjective.  manipulative,  narcissistic, self-reference designed to detract from what you have actually placed on this forum in writing as to your opinions. In fact each time your anti Israel words were fed back to you and challenged, you couldn't defend them, you did what you do above, make subjective, personal, narcissistic references about yourself. Your past posts and inability to provide objective evidence to back them up in addition to how they generalized in negative slurs about all Jews Israeli or otherwise are there for anyone to find.

[Rue]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

 

Cuba gave Jews a chance to come up with a bond and Canada didn't.  

 

You know nothing about Jews, our history or our treatment  during WW2 by Cuba. 

http://www.whitepinepictures.com/seeds/iii/36/sidebar.html

http://www.dw.com/en/the-lesser-known-fate-of-jewish-refugees-in-cuba/a-16339656

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/cuba-virtual-jewish-history-tour

 

 

[Rue]

16 hours ago, eyeball said:

You see a lot of that when it comes to allowing wealthy immigrants in these days too....it's fuck-off if you're poor...and good riddance according to some.

Did you know that Canada regarded the Jewish passengers of the St Louis as immigrants and not refugees?  Perhaps you should use that to get us off the hook. We were afraid and concerned about preserving our values and protecting our communities from bogus refugees.  How could anyone fault us for that right?

Your posing as someone who cares how Jews were treated by McKenzie King is a joke.

[DogOnPorch]

16 minutes ago, Rue said:

Your posing as someone who cares how Jews were treated by McKenzie King is a joke.

 

Gotta love how extorting the passengers of the St Louis was "giving them a chance."

Edited February 1, 2018 by DogOnPorch

[maymoon]

On 1/31/2018 at 12:59 AM, DogOnPorch said:

Haj Amin al-Husseini was most certainly involved in the actual Holocaust. The founder of the Palestinian Cause and Arafat's uncle.

You're free to deny his existence. 

al-Husseini was certainly involved, but his role was minimal and he was not part of the decision to "exterminate the Jews." He was an outcast who wanted to escape going to prison and ended up in Germany. Besides a few photos of him meeting Hitler, there is no real evidence that he was 'responsible for the holocaust'. That's just not true.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini#Post-War_Palestinian_Political_Leadership

Peter Novick has argued that the post-war historiographical depiction of al-Husseini reflected complex geopolitical interests that distorted the record.

'The claims of Palestinian complicity in the murder of the European Jews were to some extent a defensive strategy, a preemptive response to the Palestinian complaint that if Israel was recompensed for the Holocaust, it was unjust that Palestinian Muslims should pick up the bill for the crimes of European Christians. The assertion that Palestinians were complicit in the Holocaust was mostly based on the case of the Mufti of Jerusalem, a pre-World War II Palestinian nationalist leader who, to escape imprisonment by the British, sought refuge during the war in Germany. The Mufti was in many ways a disreputable character, but post-war claims that he played any significant part in the Holocaust have never been sustained. This did not prevent the editors of the four-volume Encyclopedia of the Holocaust from giving him a starring role. The article on the Mufti is more than twice as long as the articles on Goebbels and Göring, longer than the articles on Himmler and Heydrich combined, longer than the article on Eichmann—of all the biographical articles, it is exceeded in length, but only slightly, by the entry for Hitler.'

I love this piece by Robert Fisk: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/dumping-blame-for-the-holocaust-on-the-grand-mufti-is-an-insult-to-its-six-million-victims-9587755.html

The Grand Mufti, let’s face it, was a pretty horrible man, immoral and racist, but he was a puny figure in the history of Nazism’s epic evil. Dumping the Holocaust on this wretched figure is ultimately an insult to history as well as to the six million victims of an evil regime. It also provides another means of denigrating the entire Palestinian people – whose lands are still being gobbled up by the Israeli government – when the real criminals were neither Muslim nor Arab but Europeans, that cultured, largely Christian race who have inflicted more suffering on the people of this world than any other in recent history.

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, Rue said:

You know nothing about Jews, our history or our treatment  during WW2 by Cuba. 

http://www.whitepinepictures.com/seeds/iii/36/sidebar.html

http://www.dw.com/en/the-lesser-known-fate-of-jewish-refugees-in-cuba/a-16339656

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/cuba-virtual-jewish-history-tour

 

 

I know that Cuba's treatment of Jewish immigrants aboard the vessel St Louis in 1939 was better than Canada's treatment of the Jewish refugees aboard the same vessel and so do you.