eyeball Posted January 28, 2018 Report Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Israel should follows this Canadian tradition...renaming occupied and "settled" territory. Except that rubbing your empires nose was a British tradition, Canada wasn't around at the time. Quote Israel has no imperial colonist heritage, so the name "Victoria" is out. You can be sure the Vancouver Island Liberation Organization will rename our capital once we take over. Maybe we'll even move it to Tofino. 1 A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2018 Report Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, eyeball said: You can be sure the Vancouver Island Liberation Organization will rename our capital once we take over. Maybe we'll even move it to Tofino. Good...then the matter is "settled"...Israel should rename occupied territory and settlements in its own traditions. I'm sure it won't be so stupid as to use the names of British royalty and colonizers ! 1 Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted January 28, 2018 Report Posted January 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: Except that rubbing your empires nose was a British tradition, Canada wasn't around at the time. You can be sure the Vancouver Island Liberation Organization will rename our capital once we take over. Maybe we'll even move it to Tofino. My dues are paid up and I vote for Tofino. 1
DogOnPorch Posted January 28, 2018 Report Posted January 28, 2018 28 minutes ago, marcus said: What? The Nazis were not racists? Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini shakes hands with fellow Nazis. 1 Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 28, 2018 Report Posted January 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Good...then the matter is "settled"...Israel should rename occupied territory and settlements in its own traditions. I'm sure it won't be so stupid as to use the names of British royalty and colonizers ! As should the Arabs... The Yasser Arafat Memorial UN School + Rocket Factory 1 Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 28, 2018 Report Posted January 28, 2018 Yasser was an Egyptian...dontchaknow?? 1 Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
marcus Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 13 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Can a non-native marry and own property on reserves without band approval ? Nope What? How is this a comparison of Canadian natives and Palestinians in Israel? Fail. 13 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Do First Nations have to carry status identification cards to qualify for treaty rights? Yep How does this show that Canada discriminates against the natives. These status cards gives them an option other Canadians do not have. Fail. 13 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Do First Nations bands have sovereign state rights for passports and travel ? Nope How is this a comparison? The question is whether the natives in Canada have less rights to Canadian, which is the parallel you are trying to make when comparing them to Palestinians in Israel. Fail. 13 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Do First Nations have legal title to all unceded land ? Nope The First Nations have a right to any land any other Canadian would. In Israel, if you are Palestinian, you do not have rights to the same land Jews do. You failed again in trying to show a parallel. "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, marcus said: What? How is this a comparison of Canadian natives and Palestinians in Israel? First Nations and Palestinians aligned themselves decades ago to fight for land and resources lost to occupation..they hardly need your permission, approval, or analysis of any such comparisons. Canada continues to consolidate land and resources theft as a matter of national policy, regardless of SCC rulings. Native people's lives continue to be managed by the occupier, with different legal status and treatment compared to other Canadians, leading to resentment and conflict. All Israel needs is a "Palestinian Act" to complete the imperialist dispossession ...same as in Canada. You can run from these facts, but you cannot hide from them. Fail. Edited January 29, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 2 Economics trumps Virtue.
Rue Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 19 hours ago, marcus said: Crocodile tears you say? They are a plenty. Right on cue. Let's turn this thread into an opportunity to ridicule the holocaust and holocaust survivors. But hey Marcus is a victim. He's going to write in wheeping like Ghost he should not be called an anti semite. A classic example of an anti semitism. The above has nothing at all to do with the thread and everything to do with ridiculing holocaust survivors and not just Jewish ones, but Romas, 7th day Adventists, Jehova's witnesses, gays, righteous Christians, socialists, communists, humanitarians, etc., killed in the holocaust for simply being a Jew or Roma or Gay or for daring to stand up to their religious beliefs as a Christian or their moral political beliefs. Attaboy Marcus, cheer on a holocaust denier and piss on holocaust survivors, that shows your credibility and sadly once again proves this is not a thread and has never been a thread about the supposed topic that the title introduces-its about ridiculing the history of Jews and others. This is why I consider Marcus beneath contempt and why he won't respond to me and has me on ignore. People who ridicule holocaust survivors run from people that can and do defend them. People like Marcus pick their battles and don't go up against people who can and will defend themselves. That is precisely the mentality and motus operandi of a terrorist.
Rue Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 On 1/27/2018 at 4:55 PM, GostHacked said: Coming from the guy who wants to kick out all the Palestinians. And again, facts are facts East Jerusalem is not within Israel's internationally recognized borders. It's interesting seeing the talk back from you and Rue. Are some facts more relevant to the two of you than others? What's so hard to inderstand about it? Please more non-answers will more than suffice again. You are a joke. When you are confronted and revealed as making false statements you turn yourself into a victim. You come on this board and giggle away with Kactus and Marcus at the anti semitic attacks on Jews on this thread posed as a discussion on Jerusalem and you snort please no non answers? Lol.
Rue Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: First Nations and Palestinians aligned themselves decades ago to fight for land and resources lost to occupation..they hardly need your permission, approval, or analysis of any such comparisons. Canada continues to consolidate land and resources theft as a matter of national policy, regardless of SCC rulings. Native people's lives continue to be managed by the occupier, with different legal status and treatment compared to other Canadians, leading to resentment and conflict. All Israel needs is a "Palestinian Act" to complete the imperialist dispossession ...same as in Canada. You can run from these facts, but you cannot hide from them. Fail. No but he will piss on the holocaust and its survivors and try change the thread to do that. Lol. The funny thing is not one of these giggle boyz on the thread pissing on the US or Israel knows what Tim Horton's is. Trust me on that. Their knowledge of Canadian history is like their knowledge of Jewish or Christian history, non existent. But hey ask them about the Koran. They think they got it down pat. You know the parts that say INFIDEL. The problem is they don't read its other parts or realize the Koran is not in chronological order and their beloved prophet rejected many of the hateful precepts they cling to in his name. Pathetic. Edited January 29, 2018 by Rue 1
GostHacked Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Rue said: You are a joke. When you are confronted and revealed as making false statements you turn yourself into a victim. You come on this board and giggle away with Kactus and Marcus at the anti semitic attacks on Jews on this thread posed as a discussion on Jerusalem and you snort please no non answers? Lol. False statements, are you denying me you told me to cut my dick off?? Fact is East Jerusalem is not within Israel's internationally recognized borders. Stating a fact is not anti-semitism. And no where have I attacked Jews here, I am hoping you can quote me on that, But I am sure i can find the 'cut your dick off' (which you already admitted to in this thread as a statement you made about me) before you have one shred of proof I said anything anti-semetic.. You came around full circle as expected. I am not giggling or laughing but more of sighing because I have to defend myself yet again as predicted. I'll extend another olive branch again only you have you yet again slap me in the face with it. Screw you. 2
DogOnPorch Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, GostHacked said: False statements, are you denying me you told me to cut my dick off?? Fact is East Jerusalem is not within Israel's internationally recognized borders. Stating a fact is not anti-semitism. And no where have I attacked Jews here, I am hoping you can quote me on that, But I am sure i can find the 'cut your dick off' (which you already admitted to in this thread as a statement you made about me) before you have one shred of proof I said anything anti-semetic.. You came around full circle as expected. I am not giggling or laughing but more of sighing because I have to defend myself yet again as predicted. I'll extend another olive branch again only you have you yet again slap me in the face with it. Screw you. You mean it isn't within the borders recognized by the Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC). Which is ironic since they started the war and then lost to Israel...now they want a do-over and a chance to re-annex Jerusalem. Losers do not get to decide that. Especially losers that followed a Nazi and a terrorist...and remain terrorists to this day. Terrorists don't get their own Jew-free terror states no matter how much you'd like it to be. 1 Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) As for Israel and this thread, any country has the right to choose its capital. Period. Edited January 29, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015
GostHacked Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: As for Israel and this thread, any country has the right to choose its capital. Period. That's not the contention here. 5 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: You mean it isn't within the borders recognized by the Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC). Which is ironic since they started the war and then lost to Israel...now they want a do-over and a chance to re-annex Jerusalem. Losers do not get to decide that. Especially losers that followed a Nazi and a terrorist...and remain terrorists to this day. Terrorists don't get their own Jew-free terror states no matter how much you'd like it to be. Alright, so I will admit I was wrong. Oh Dog and Rue could you two EVAR forgive me? I don't care. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jerusalem Quote On being occupied by Israel after the 1967 Six-Day War, East Jerusalem, with expanded borders, came under direct Israeli rule.[7] East Jerusalem had been occupied by Israel in June 1967. On 27–28 June 1967, East Jerusalem was integrated into Jerusalem by extension of its municipal borders and was placed under the law, jurisdiction and administration of the State of Israel.[8][9] In a unanimous General Assembly resolution, the UN declared the measures trying to change the status of the city invalid.[10] Jerusalem was effectively annexed by Israel in 1980, an act internationally condemned.[by whom?] That's how Israel works. And they will eventually annex the rest of the territory.
DogOnPorch Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, GostHacked said: That's not the contention here. Alright, so I will admit I was wrong. Oh Dog and Rue could you two EVAR forgive me? I don't care. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jerusalem That's how Israel works. And they will eventually annex the rest of the territory. Since Jordan doesn't want it back...they originally annexed Judea and Samaria in 1949...and since the Arabs both started and lost the Arab-Israeli War...it simply isn't up to the Arabs...or their friends...to decide what happens now. Losers don't get to decide. And since terrorists don't get their own Jew Free terror states...wait...or do they in your world? 1 Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
marcus Posted January 29, 2018 Report Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: As for Israel and this thread, any country has the right to choose its capital. Period. Unless the location they want the capital to be in does not fall within their borders. I don't give a shit if Israel wants to make West Jerusalem as their capital, but East Jerusalem is Palestinian. No country accepts Israel's unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem. "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, marcus said: Unless the location they want the capital to be in does not fall within their borders. No country accepts Israel's unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem. They conquered it militarily. So it is okay for Arabs to invade and capture many countries and force their culture and move their capitals but not Israel? I think that the most powerful country (the US) has accepted it already. Just saying. Edited January 30, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015
marcus Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: They conquered it militarily. So it is okay for Arabs to invade and capture many countries and force their culture and move their capitals but not Israel? I think that the most powerful country (the US) has accepted it already. Just saying. US, under their written law, still does not accept the unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem. International rules and regulations do not permit for any country to annex a land after a war. This has been the case for a century, ever since majority of the countries signed onto what is known as international law, including Israel. This rule has been followed since then. What the Arabs or any other cultures/empires have done in the past, is in the past and they do not apply to what the accepted rules are now. "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Actually, there are numerous examples of land being annexed with and without wars in the past 100 years, "international law" be damned. Israel is but one example, again held to a different standard ? Edited January 30, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, marcus said: since majority of the countries signed onto what is known as international law, including Israel. This rule has been followed since then. What the Arabs or any other cultures/empires have done in the past, is in the past and they do not apply to what the accepted rules are now. If the Arabs had the military power which they don't they would have invaded and captured Israel and likely with no mercy for the population with likely millions killed and raped. They have shown this behaviour in the past and the hate is so strong against Israelis that they will very likely do it now even with all these so called international laws. geez they don't even have mecy for their own. Look at them what they are doing to their own in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, ......!!!. Edited January 30, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 1
Bonam Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 43 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Actually, there are numerous examples of land being annexed with and without wars in the past 100 years, "international law" be damned. "It's wrong when Jews do it." ™ 1
eyeball Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 5 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: As for Israel and this thread, any country has the right to choose its capital. Period. According to this thread anyone can also start a country or rearrange their borders or anyone else's for that matter. It's like the whole world is the New World now...free for the taking and where might makes right or wrong...whatever you want...fill yer boots. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: According to this thread anyone can also start a country or rearrange their borders or anyone else's for that matter. It's like the whole world is the New World now...free for the taking and where might makes right or wrong...whatever you want...fill yer boots. This is the reality. When Iraqis invaded Iran their plan was to annexe the oil province of Khuzastan but they were militarily defeated before that plan put in action. Not to mention Soviet invasions into Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan. International laws are only for Israelis? Edited January 30, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015
eyeball Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: This is the reality. When Iraqis invaded Iran their plan was to annexe the oil province of Khuzastan but they were militarily defeated before that plan put in action. Not to mention Soviet invasions into Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan. International laws are only for Israelis? More to the point they're for whoever Israel's patrons decide they're for...or not. It's just part and parcel of life on Earth Babel. Even Einstein would blush at the sheer relativity of it all. Edited January 30, 2018 by eyeball A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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