Candidate Roy Moore for Senate.

[Boges]

9 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Al Franken has admitted to sexual assault and sexual harassment.    Franken also exploited "rape culture" as part of his comedy writing.

He has pleaded his own guilt in the court of public opinion.

Be he so righteous (now, after being outed)...surely he will resign to show "progressive" leadership.

Then Trump should resign too. 

As for Moore, he doesn't have to resign. He's going to be on the ballot. But a Democrat actually stands to win in Alabama. Talk about Hell Freezing Over. 

Edited November 20, 2017 by Boges

[bush_cheney2004]

8 minutes ago, Boges said:

Then Trump should resign too.

 

Why would Trump resign ?   He hasn't admitted or apologized for any alleged assault or harassment.

Funny that....Franken going down before Trump.

BTW,  Al Franken was politically damaged ("funny" rape articles, tax evasion, etc.) before he barely won the election after a very close recount.  

Voters in Minnesota knew he was no progressive angel.

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Why would Trump resign ?   He hasn't admitted or apologized for any alleged assault or harassment.

Funny that....Franken going down before Trump.

BTW,  Al Franken was politically damaged ("funny" rape articles, tax evasion, etc.) before he barely won the election after a very close recount.  

Voters in Minnesota knew he was no progressive angel.

Ahhh so admitting you're wrong is the true weakness. 

Doesn't matter how many women have accused you of sexual assault or harassment. Admitting you're wrong is the biggest sin. 

What Franken has done and what Moore has done are not similar things. Attempts to do so just muddy the water. I guess that's the goal. 

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

...What Franken has done and what Moore has done are not similar things.

 

Correct...Franken has admitted his crimes when faced with objective evidence.

Couldn't happen to a better "progressive" politician.

 

[Boges]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Correct...Franken has admitted his crimes when faced with objective evidence.

Couldn't happen to a better "progressive" politician.

And the "victim" has forgiven him. There's an investigation into what he did as well. No need to step down.

As for Roy Moore, looks like he may be getting a Democrat elected in Alabama. I guess that's the ultimate karma. 

Edited November 20, 2017 by Boges

[bush_cheney2004]

14 minutes ago, Boges said:

And the "victim" has forgiven him. There's an investigation into what he did as well. No need to step down.

As for Roy Moore, looks like he may be getting a Democrat elected in Alabama. I guess that's the ultimate karma. 

 

What ?    Do you really think that "forgiveness" will erase all of Franken's political damage/baggage in the present context of harassment and rape culture ?

Hell, even SNL turned on him.    He is not Jimmy Swaggart.

Alabama can elect whomever they want....one Democrat will not erase the wholesale bleeding for that party under Obama.

 

Edited November 20, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

[Boges]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

What ?    Do you really think that "forgiveness" will erase all of Franken's political damage/bagage in the present context of harassment and rape culture ?

Hell, even SNL turned on him.    He is not Jimmy Swaggart.

Alabama can elect whomever they want....one Democrat will not erase the wholesale bleeding for that party under Obama.

That's up to his constituents. Maybe he won't run again. But there's no evidence he'll have to step down. 

I think everyone thinks what he did was stupid. But again comparing it to what Moore is accused of is sort of like people saying Jihadist Muslims are pretty much the same as the WBC. 

So much False Equivalency in this world. From both sides of the Political Spectrum. 

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

That's up to his constituents. Maybe he won't run again. But there's no evidence he'll have to step down. 

 

 

Doesn't matter....Franken was a "progressive" flag bearer who has now been thoroughly humiliated by his own behaviour.

His effectiveness has been compromised.

Moore is not a sitting U.S. senator.

[Boges]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Doesn't matter....Franken was a "progressive" flag bearer who has now been thoroughly humiliated by his own behaviour.

His effectiveness has been compromised.

Moore is not a sitting U.S. senator.

So does that mean he is forced to step down? There's no evidence of that having to happen. 

[bush_cheney2004]

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

So does that mean he is forced to step down? There's no evidence of that having to happen. 

 

Franken isn't forced to do anything, but he is now damaged goods politically.

His party will pressure him not to run again and risk losing the seat to a Republican.

He has been stripped of sponsorship for several "feminist" issues.

Today, PBS and WETA have announce that Franken will be sanitized out of the David Letterman comedy bio.

....it is crashing down, just like Weinstein....he is the walking dead politically.

[Boges]

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Today, PBS and WETA have announce that Franken will be sanitized out of the David Letterman comedy bio.

....it is crashing down, just like Weinstein....he is the walking dead politically.

So is Moore BTW. The GOP want him to step down. 

Edited November 20, 2017 by Boges

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Boges said:

So is Moore BTW. The GOP want him to step down. 

 

Fine by me....Moore is not a U.S. senator.

[H10]

On 11/18/2017 at 4:42 AM, taxme said:

Just fyi, there was a huge turnout of a group of women called "Women For Moore" at a news press conference at the Alabama State Capital that Moore was attending. A grassroots of conservative and Christian women showed up in support for Roy Moore. Well, either all these women were groped by Moore and enjoyed it and want him to get elected or else they know that what is going on here is just another typical liberal/democratic/RINO bashing parade going on against Moore whom are scared of Moore getting elected. 

I cannot comment on anything you say goes that maybe going on in Alabama where there are incidents of animal like behavior going on by some Alabamians. But you cannot try and make me believe that all Alabamians are screwing their children and marrying their cousins. This sounds just like more liberal lying bull chit being spread here. It would appear as though what most women in Alabama want is not to have another sex pervert in Washington. Hey, you never know. 

Not ALL, just about 60-70%, ie Moore's base.

[H10]

On 11/18/2017 at 4:50 AM, taxme said:

Whether they are called RINO's or establishment republicans, they both still drink from the same swamp water. 

I don't know as to who Trump was supporting but I am pretty sure that Trump would be just as happy with Moore if he gets elected because Moore despises the swamp people in Washington. Whether he is a rapist or not, many women in Alabama don't seem to feel that what is being said about Moore is all true.

We will know soon enough as to whether Moore goes to Washington or not. If it is a democrat then it will be business as usual in Washington with that person.  

Aw well. 

I actually beleive Moore opposes the Swamp people, Donald Trump is the ultimate swamp monster and he ran against Moore, there is a reason, Trump has loaded his administration with lobbyist and swampsters. Moore's number with women are slipping alot, I would like to see Moore win, it would be good for the party.

[taxme]

On 11/20/2017 at 4:48 PM, H10 said:

Not ALL, just about 60-70%, ie Moore's base.

60% - 70% of base supporters is good enough for Moore and for me. The rest are no doubt just a bunch of liberal emotional women. But hey. 

[taxme]

On 11/20/2017 at 4:51 PM, H10 said:

I actually beleive Moore opposes the Swamp people, Donald Trump is the ultimate swamp monster and he ran against Moore, there is a reason, Trump has loaded his administration with lobbyist and swampsters. Moore's number with women are slipping alot, I would like to see Moore win, it would be good for the party.

I agree, I hope Moore does win. But at this time there is nothing today that leads me to believe that Trump is anything but an anti-swampster.  But only time will tell. For now it is go, Trump, go. 

[Omni]

Just now, taxme said:

I agree, I hope Moore does win. But at this time there is nothing today that leads me to believe that Trump is anything but an anti-swampster.  But only time will tell. For now it is go, Trump, go. 

Trump's average of 5 lies per day since he took office is fine with you? Stupid is as stupid does.

[?Impact]

The "evidence" against Franken is no more damaging than the "evidence" against Trump. If you look at the photograph of Franken, he is obviously playing to the camera. You can see the shadows of his fingers on that 2" thick body armor so he is not touching it let alone the woman that is 2" behind it. It is the visual equivalent of "locker room talk".

That being said, I think Franken should resign for it. Trump of course, it is obvious he should resign as well. I would not vote for either of them, but then 62 million Americans have zero morals.

Getting back to Roy Moore, he is just as bad as those two, and I am not low enough to vote for him either.

[OftenWrong]

13 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

The "evidence" against Franken is no more damaging than the "evidence" against Trump. If you look at the photograph of Franken, he is obviously playing to the camera. You can see the shadows of his fingers on that 2" thick body armor so he is not touching it let alone the woman that is 2" behind it. It is the visual equivalent of "locker room talk".

That being said, I think Franken should resign for it. Trump of course, it is obvious he should resign as well. I would not vote for either of them, but then 62 million Americans have zero morals.

Getting back to Roy Moore, he is just as bad as those two, and I am not low enough to vote for him either.

Does that mean you would have voted Hillary?

[taxme]

17 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

The "evidence" against Franken is no more damaging than the "evidence" against Trump. If you look at the photograph of Franken, he is obviously playing to the camera. You can see the shadows of his fingers on that 2" thick body armor so he is not touching it let alone the woman that is 2" behind it. It is the visual equivalent of "locker room talk".

That being said, I think Franken should resign for it. Trump of course, it is obvious he should resign as well. I would not vote for either of them, but then 62 million Americans have zero morals.

Getting back to Roy Moore, he is just as bad as those two, and I am not low enough to vote for him either.

Why should Trump resign? What has he done that he should resign? Over. 

[Omni]

Just now, taxme said:

Why should Trump resign? What has he done that he should resign? Over. 

Obstruction of justice, emoluments, blatant continuous lying,...need more?

[bush_cheney2004]

8 minutes ago, taxme said:

Why should Trump resign? What has he done that he should resign? Over. 

 

Nothing that other U.S. presidents haven't also done.

Trump should only resign if he gets bored with being president.

[Omni]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Nothing that other U.S. presidents haven't also done.

Trump should only resign if he gets bored with being president.

Or when the courts get bored with trying to teach him the basics of the constitution. 

[taxme]

On 11/19/2017 at 7:55 PM, ReeferMadness said:

What BS this "debate" is, as usual around here.

Al Franken - accused by 1 adult woman, immediately apologizes and calls for an investigation into his own behavior.

Roy Moore - accused by a dozen women, teenagers at the time (some under the age of consent), banned from mall.  Calls them all liars

Donald Trump - accused by 20+ women of various charges, including rape of a 13 year old.  Accusers include wife.  Calls them all liars and threatens to sue them.

Sure.  Exactly the same. 

Don't forget Conyers now? Why has not one been charged yet if these men did all these things to women is what I want to know. I am still waiting as to why Weinstein has not been charged yet, and has not been given a court date yet? This guy was a real sexual pervert. Apparently, one of the Moore's accusers has been involved with fraud in the past. Yup, we will all now have to believe her story, won't we? 

Moore and Trump are the targets by the liberal/democratic left wing marxists losers, and the fake and phony liberal media, and that is all that they are really concerned about. These losers have a lot to loose if Trump continues to stay in power, and with Moore , he is even more of a threat and concern for them. The dumbocrats are on a losers mission to try and find something on Trump so they can impeach him but so far not a thing can they come up with. They have refused to go along with Trump on anything. Such idiotic losers and imbeciles. 

[?Impact]

16 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Does that mean you would have voted Hillary?

No, I would have gone for one of the other half dozen or more possibilities (depending on what state I theoretically lived in), or else I would go for a write-in candidate if my state allowed it (some states have to have the write-in candidate file paperwork before the election, which is even more confusing).