jacee Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: You're actually gloating about this killer! WoW! And you call Bcsapper sick...for a joke? He did his time. Get over it. Quote
Army Guy Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, jacee said: No it doesn't. It's over. Get over it. It will never be over.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Michael Hardner Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: You, of all people should be skeptical of believing government propaganda. Wow. The conspiracy and anti-conspiracy teams traded players ? I'm still on the anti-conspiracy team, for the record. Hal 9000 for Hot Enough and a player to be named later.... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Hal 9000 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 1 minute ago, jacee said: He did his time. Get over it. But, it's you that is gloating. You see that you are gloating over a terrorist - right? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Rue Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, hot enough said: Oy vey!! Held in a US torture chamber in a country the US has been terrorizing for 100 years and you have the temerity to speak of peace, order and good government. The arguments as to what the US did in GBay go to the legal issue as to whether constitutional rights were violated. The arguments as to whether there should only be a nominal amount awarded would deal with public morality, pogg and doctrine of clean hands and not profiting from crime arguments that have nothing to do with US conduct. The decision not to pursue that issue but jump to the conclusion to pay is the issue I raised. The comment above shows you can't understand the issue and mix your personal bigotry against the US and alleged behaviour not related to Kadr with a legal issue that does not consider US behaviour in any way. Keep up the childish comments. I couldn't do as good a job as you pointing out what a fool you express on this forum.. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: Wow. The conspiracy and anti-conspiracy teams traded players ? I'm still on the anti-conspiracy team, for the record. Not really! There is no conspiracy, just a PM who is trying to shake off accountability. Doesn't matter who asked for what, or who recommended what - it's Trudeau's deal. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Michael Hardner Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Just now, Hal 9000 said: it's Trudeau's deal. I can accept that as far as it was his decision to go to arbitration... and move past this... and hopefully save money. But this goes back to ... I think ... Chretien, Martin, Harper also. As for the dollar amount and terms, I wouldn't put that on him specifically. Folks sure are angry about this, and comments I see elsewhere put the $ amount as coming from Trudeau's desk. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
hot enough Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 17 minutes ago, Army Guy said: where he could have legally been held for the duration of the conflict There was nothing "legally' involved with the illegal invasion of Afghanistan. It was a war crime and vicious terrorist act against a people who did nothing to the USA. It is worse than what the Nazis did, because the US pretends to be good and kind and just. Quote
jacee Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Army Guy said: You seem to have forgotten that He did not serve his entire sentence in a US prison......, you seem to forget it was under the Harper government that Omar would be sent to Canada to finish his sentence....I also want to point out his time in Gitmo was that of a prisoner where he could have legally been held for the duration of the conflict, still ongoing actually.....that time does not count for squat..... He did not serve a life sentence, but i know who is the speer family will serve a life sentence without a husband , father, a son his life is gone forever....taken by a terrorist organization.... WTF more do i want....i want our nation to stand up and tell its citizens that yes we broke some laws those responsible will be punished, but we do not pay out terrorists....I want Omar held accountable for ALL his crimes....I want ALL the people of Canada to take pause and ensure we treat our soldier better than we treat our foes.....I want the Khadrs shipped back to Afghanistan to face their crimes they have committed.... How many people were ever convicted for any of the deaths of US and Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan? Who the hell ever gets convicted of murder in a war, especially when we invaded their country?! How many crimes did Omar already plead guilty to? Look it up. Canada has had to payout a number of people, because Canada violated their Charter rights. If you don't understand how important that is, get the fk out of the army because you don't even understand what we're paying you for. Quote
Rue Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, hot enough said: I can't ignore your posts, though I would love to avoid the endless drivel, because you write so much nonsense. There are millions of US war criminals/terrorists at all levels who have never been as much as reprimanded. Your ignorance on this subject is both appalling and sickening. Your idiocy again shows. First you raise a topic that has nothing to do with the thread. Then your insipid comment doesn't even address the idiocy you spewed. You stated the US never persecuted US war criminals, it has. Now you try change the subject to day there are millions of US War criminal terrorists never reprimanded. Your first stamen I challenged that the US has never prosecuted US war criminals is false. Public record shows that. You now compound your idiotic and childish comment by spewing back there are millions of US War criminals. You invented the number. You spew and fabricate on this forum without any thought. You ejaculate numbers. What is even more pathetic is you have come on this forum posing as if you are the only one who provides sources to back your points of view and on this thread all you have done is engage in childish name calling and fabrications because you are arm chair Jihadist posing as if you are at war with the US. Millions. You bet. 1 Quote
hot enough Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm still on the anti-conspiracy team, for the record. You are squarely on the conspiracy team, Michael, you always have been, with absolutely nothing to support your position. Which is why you always flee. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I can accept that as far as it was his decision to go to arbitration... and move past this... and hopefully save money. But this goes back to ... I think ... Chretien, Martin, Harper also. As for the dollar amount and terms, I wouldn't put that on him specifically. Folks sure are angry about this, and comments I see elsewhere put the $ amount as coming from Trudeau's desk. The money sticks people pretty hard. For me, it's two things; the apology...and secondly, the disrespect he shows to our military for not fighting the law suit. If you're gonna give him (terrorism) $10mil, you may as well take the chance and try fighting it. At least the military wont feel shit on. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Michael Hardner Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, hot enough said: You are squarely on the conspiracy team, Michael, you always have been, with absolutely nothing to support your position. Which is why you always flee. I have stated my position and am still waiting for a response... but that is on the other thread. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Hal 9000 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, hot enough said: You are squarely on the conspiracy team, Michael, you always have been, with absolutely nothing to support your position. Which is why you always flee. Hey, I heard that there's a guy on the other thread defending the US over the 9/11 attack, you should go straighten him out - immediately Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
hot enough Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I have stated my position and am still waiting for a response... but that is on the other thread. Anyone can state any old position, we see that done all the time here in this thread but any position has to hold some semblance of rationality. Quote
Rue Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, jacee said: How many people were ever convicted for any of the deaths of US and Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan? Who the hell ever gets convicted of murder in a war, especially when we invaded their country?! How many crimes did Omar already plead guilty to? Look it up. Canada has had to payout a number of people, because Canada violated their Charter rights. If you don't understand how important that is, get the fk out of the army because you don't even understand what we're paying you for. 1- They were killed. 2-We did not invade Afganistan that is your political opinion, but its not a legal one and the actual fact is the government asked us to come in and protect them from the Taliban, In your world we should do nothing when terrorists terrorize a nation and its people. In my world we should stop such autrocities. 3-Who were the people Canada paid and were they engaged in terrorism? 4-If you don't understand how important it is not to reward a terrorist and have them profit indirectly from their terrorism dpn't you dare have the audacity to tell a soldier who puts his life on the life so you are not killed from terrorists he is less important in value then that terrorist. You talk iike that you don't deserve any soldier defending the way of life you take for granted and are making a mockery of hero worshipping terrorists. Edited July 10, 2017 by Rue 1 Quote
hot enough Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Hey, I heard that there's a guy on the other thread defending the US over the 9/11 attack, you should go straighten him out - immediately That's another thread, Hal. Why are you so comfortable with the US war crimes in Afghanistan? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, hot enough said: Anyone can state any old position, we see that done all the time here in this thread but any position has to hold some semblance of rationality. Other thread: Here. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
hot enough Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Rue said: 2-We did not invade Afganistan that is your political opinion, but its not a legal one and the actual fact is the government asked us to come in and protect them from the Taliban, In your world we should do nothing when terrorists terrorize a nation and its people. In my world we should stop such autrocities. Yes, Canada was part of the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, started and mostly carried out by the USA/UK. If you are so concerned about terrorists terrorizing a nation, what of the 70 years the US has been terrorizing Cuba? Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 1 minute ago, hot enough said: That's another thread, Hal. Why are you so comfortable with the US war crimes in Afghanistan? So, you didn't take the bait. Can't blame me for trying. Ok, I give up! Now I'm feeling tortured, I need some sleep - I'll confess to whatever you want. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Rue Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Hey, I heard that there's a guy on the other thread defending the US over the 9/11 attack, you should go straighten him out - immediately That's like asking Ellen DeGeneres to straighten someone out. Quote
Omni Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: ..if the sentence was bogus why was he not pull out of prison, or his conviction over turned....by our justice system.... He has peen pulled out of prison, and I suspect his conviction will be overturned by our justice system, for all of the reason that have been reported all over the place so you should be familiar with them by now. Quote
hot enough Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: I'll confess to whatever you want. You already have, multiple times. You avidly support the most vicious war criminals on the planet. One only has to look at the historical record to see the concerted brutality of the US. They went to Afghanistan for OBL and forgot all about him. Their lies are so transparent and still the gullible get duped. Quote
Rue Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, hot enough said: Yes, Canada was part of the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, started and mostly carried out by the USA/UK. If you are so concerned about terrorists terrorizing a nation, what of the 70 years the US has been terrorizing Cuba? Canada did not invade Afghanistan illegally. The fact you didn't agree with Canada going here didn't maket it illegal. Your personal opinions don't determine legality. The issue as to US Cuba relations has nothing to do with this thread. You again have no idea how to debate the issues so try change the subject. On that note I will say since your sole contribution at this point is to respond like a child I am off to visit Omar and give him your best wishes. Quote
Army Guy Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, jacee said: How many people were ever convicted for any of the deaths of US and Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan? Who the hell ever gets convicted of murder in a war, especially when we invaded their country?! How many crimes did Omar already plead guilty to? Look it up. Canada has had to payout a number of people, because Canada violated their Charter rights. If you don't understand how important that is, get the fk out of the army because you don't even understand what we're paying you for. Not many actually lived that long, omar was a freak accident.....Notice that it has never happened again..... Actually it is more common than you think, it is mentioned in the Genva convention, inter national law.... actually try googling it instead of pulling it out your ass....I thought Omar was a Canadian under what law does he have the right to defend another nation.....google that shit to....He was a terrorist, in a foreign nation bringing terror to the people of Afghanistan, and coalition forces.....the same forces we were part of ...... He pleaded guilty to 5 crimes, NO new charges were added by Canada, why ? How many of those payouts were to terrorists...... The Canadian government was paying me to put people like young omar in the ground.....to arrange a meeting with allah, so they could collect their used 72 virgins....but you already knew this...as you just wrote your citizenship test recently ....Today i am retired, and living it up on your dime.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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