Hal 9000 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Omni said: Well it's easy to discredit Levant, we all know that. You are trying to split hairs over the 15/18 year age, but that's all fluff. Go look up the case of Hamdan v Rumsfeld and you will see, hopefully, why the Gitmo kangaroo court conviction of Khadr was illegal. That's not "splitting hairs", that's 90% of you people's argument ...and 100% of Jacee's. There you go, finding out you're wrong...again, and trying to change the conversation...again. Let's me guess, you have 'No idea what i'm talking about"...right? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
jacee Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 40 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Kids today! They blow up so fast... Sicko. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, jacee said: Sicko. C'mon, it was clever and you know it! Lighten up! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
jacee Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: But they did know that Dad was a terrorist - didn't they? Because you're so in tune with children, I have to ask, If you knew dad was a terrorist, would you consider that a safe environment for children to be raised? Not when they were here, no. Quote
Omni Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Yes because, any violation of human rights, regardless of what they are.... takes precedence over any other laws on our books...That is the message of all of this....a message received load and clear across the country.......Not to mention the failure of our entire system, be it our justice system, that should have charge Omar with all the rest of laws he broke....They instead concentrated on his Human rights, and the fact he was a Child soldier, totally forgetting or forgiving his other possible criminal charges he committed.....Not to mention the same charges his other family members committed.... Luckily proper courts, at least here in Canada for the most part, work on the principle that in order to convict someone of a crime you need to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that a crime was committed. Not take the word of bunch of military wonks who really know nothing about, or have no need to respect, the due process. Quote
betsy Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Omni said: Well it's easy to discredit Levant, we all know that. You are trying to split hairs over the 15/18 year age, but that's all fluff. Go look up the case of Hamdan v Rumsfeld and you will see, hopefully, why the Gitmo kangaroo court conviction of Khadr was illegal. NO, you didn't discredit him at all. What you don't seem to realize is that it was your credibility that took a big hit! You're giving a false opinion - it shows not only did you not understand the "bitch" part in the video - but you don't know what you're on about! Edited July 9, 2017 by betsy Quote
Omni Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: That's not "splitting hairs", that's 90% of you people's argument ...and 100% of Jacee's. There you go, finding out you're wrong...again, and trying to change the conversation...again. Let's me guess, you have 'No idea what i'm talking about"...right? No, you have no idea what you're talking about. But I have tried to explain it from the legal realities of thisi case. Quote
jacee Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, betsy said: Boy - your start is a dud. You're wrong about that, as proven: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v1_cha_chapter39_rule136 Another dud. It says 18. Some countries disagree (Sierra Leon), but internationally it's 18. Edited July 9, 2017 by jacee Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, jacee said: Not when they were here, no. They did, actually. And, now that we agree on that, will you answer the second question? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
betsy Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Omni said: No, you have no idea what you're talking about. But I have tried to explain it from the legal realities of thisi case. You tried to explain it from legal realities????? Hahahahaha You're kidding, right? Quote
Omni Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, betsy said: NO, you didn't discredit him at all. What you don't seem to realize is that it was your credibility that took a big hit! You're giving a false opinion - it shows you don't know what you're on about! Most people ignore Levant most of the time because he has a credibility about as solid as Fox or Breitbart. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Omni said: No, you have no idea what you're talking about. But I have tried to explain it from the legal realities of thisi case. You're hilarious dude! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
betsy Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, jacee said: It says 18. Some countries disagree, but it's 18. ARTICLE 38, jacee. Check it out again. I don't know what you've been reading, but you're definitely not on the same page. Quote
betsy Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Omni said: Most people ignore Levant most of the time because he has a credibility about as solid as Fox or Breitbart. Never mind most people. That's not the issue. In this video about Khadr, it's proven that he's speaking the truth, and you're not. Edited July 9, 2017 by betsy Quote
Omni Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, betsy said: You tried to explain it from legal realities????? Hahahahaha You're kidding, right? Yes, and I can see how it went well over your head. First clue was your patronage to Levant. Quote
Omni Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: You're hilarious dude! Well, you're always easy to joke with. Quote
jacee Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 36 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: At 15, nearly 16 people make their own choices. He chose to toss a grenade. Not legally in Canada they don't. He chose to take a plea to get the hell out of Gitmo. Quote
Rue Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 28 minutes ago, jacee said: They were not here by then. You quoted a post I did not write Jacee Quote
hot enough Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: C'mon, it was clever and you know it! Lighten up! You think laughing and joking about an infant being blown up is "clever" yet you whine about a US terrorist who got killed taking part in a war crime in Afghanistan. You are really sick, as is bcsapper. Quote
Omni Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, betsy said: ARTICLE 38, jacee. Check it out again. I don't know what you've been reading, but you're definitely not on the same page. You're obviously not on the same page. He's a Canadian citizen, which means if he was a soldier, he was a CHILD soldier. And he was tried and convicted in a court the SCOTUS deemed to be illegal. Get with it. 1 Quote
jacee Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: They did, actually. And, now that we agree on that, will you answer the second question? "If you knew dad was a terrorist, would you consider that a safe environment for children to be raised?" No I wouldn't. If the gov knew that when they were still here, why didn't they do something for the kids? Let me guess: They had pere Khadr under surveillance to see what they could learn, and didn't want to alert him? Quote
capricorn Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 32 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Would you cut it out please? Good grief this is tiring...I refreshed my page to read your drivel. Put him on ignore Hal. He's not worth wasting time on. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
hot enough Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, capricorn said: Put him on ignore Hal. He's not worth wasting time on. Why are conservatives always such chickens**ts? Quote
capricorn Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 12 minutes ago, hot enough said: You think laughing and joking about an infant Oh man. Now they're infants. Soon HE will have them lobbing grenades from the womb. LOL Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Army Guy Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, Omni said: Luckily proper courts, at least here in Canada for the most part, work on the principle that in order to convict someone of a crime you need to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that a crime was committed. Not take the word of bunch of military wonks who really know nothing about, or have no need to respect, the due process. Yes, the proper courts have turned a blind eye to all the other charges that had the proof to meet all the criteria of Canadian laws....The question is why ? Not sure where or what the "not take the word of a bunch of military wonks who really know nothing about, of have no need to respect, the due process" means, Those that served as prosecutor and defense lawyer were Military lawyers, the same qualifications as any civilian lawyer....the Military tribunal was over seen by once again military lawyers... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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