Anti-Gay, Anti-Abortion Nazi Scheer

[August1991]

The only reason that he won the Conservative leadership is because of the radical Social Conservative (SoCon) vote. They pushed him over the 50% line; and they own him now. 

Anyway, with a name like Scheer, he must be a Nazi.

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This is how the CBC (eg Michael Enright) will present our next federal Conservative leader.

Edited May 29, 2017 by August1991

[marcus]

He seems nice and friendly, but at the same time, he has the ice cold blue coloured eyes like Harper.

Not sure if I trust his eyes: https://goo.gl/dLLHgg

 

Edited May 29, 2017 by marcus

[H10]

Funny, I thought he was a jew with his hook nose and high pitched voice and all.

So what if he is a nazi, that is a good thing, no more hiding in the shadows, I like my nazis out front and public, he has admitted he is a nazi, so lets have all the cards on the table.

[betsy]

5 hours ago, August1991 said:

The only reason that he won the Conservative leadership is because of the radical Social Conservative (SoCon) vote. They pushed him over the 50% line; and they own him now. 

Anyway, with a name like Scheer, he must be a Nazi.

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This is how the CBC (eg Michael Enright) will present our next federal Conservative leader.

 

No doubt, the Liberals will try all they can to demonize him.  That's what they do with opponents that are hard to beat, like Harper as an example.   Boy, the scare-mongering the Libs feverishly spread - topped with that famous ad:

 

 

"We did not make this up."  hahahaha

 

The Libs are good at it.  They've perfected the art of lying.....it's second nature, now.

Edited May 29, 2017 by betsy

[betsy]

The more the Libs will ramp up the scare-mongering, demonizing technique against Scheer.

  Because that's all they can do.......

..........when Canadians start feeling the painful pinch from Trudeau's big spending spree!

Edited May 29, 2017 by betsy

[Boges]

Liberals can't have it both ways. He can't be both Harper 2.0 and a Social Conservative Nazi that will pledge to reverse Abortion and Gay Marriage laws. Because Harper never did that.

I don't think anyone knows much of anything about this guy. But if you're looking for a youthful face to fight JT, this guy is probably a good option. 

[Omni]

Harper never did that because he knew it was a career ender. If Scheer seeks to reverse either of those issues, JT will be laughing all the way to the bank.  

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, Omni said:

Harper never did that because he knew it was a career ender. If Scheer seeks to reverse either of those issues, JT will be laughing all the way to the bank.  

And wouldn't it also be a career ender for Scheer? 

How often are the Liberals going to play this scary Christian Right Nazi card? Especially when the court Muslims that likely have comparable views at the same time. 

[Omni]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

And wouldn't it also be a career ender for Scheer? 

How often are the Liberals going to play this scary Christian Right Nazi card? Especially when the court Muslims that likely have comparable views at the same time. 

Who is "courting" Muslims?

[Argus]

To progressives, anyone who holds views on social issues different from theirs is a heretic. They've taken the view that such beliefs are illegitimate, and that no one holds them aside from 'dinosaurs' or other such fringe creatures of the past. Yet most polls show that between a third to half of Canadians hold views opposing abortion, gay/transgendered rights, legalizing marijuana or favoring the death penalty. You can't simply dismiss vast numbers of people like that as somehow beyond the pale, unfit for airing in public, and  not deserving of political representation. 

The NDP and the Liberals have become more and more narrow-focused over the years, expelling anyone who doesn't match up with an increasingly narrow group of ideological beliefs, beliefs which themselves change year by year. Remember, Chretien's government brought in a new marriage act which specifically stated that marriage was only to be between a man and a woman - because Liberal MPs rebelled at one which didn't. Now, to listen to Liberals only a dinosaur isn't in love with every aspect of an alphabet stew of gender and sexual roles. The NDP used to represent farmers out on the prairies. Now it mocks and sneers at them and their beliefs, and appeals to late' sipping tree huggers from downtown Toronto and Vancouver.

At least the Conservatives remain a big tent party, which allows a wide variety of views on social and ideological issues.

[dialamah]

Scheer has already said he's not going down that road.  Some of the anti-abortion groups who support him have suggested that while he won't initiate anything, he would support private members bills for making abortion and gay marriage illegal.  

[Argus]

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

And wouldn't it also be a career ender for Scheer? 

How often are the Liberals going to play this scary Christian Right Nazi card? Especially when the court Muslims that likely have comparable views at the same time. 

But no one ever asks those devoted Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus what their views are on gay rights or abortion.  Conservatives already know, and progressives prefer not to know - although of course, they DO know. But they reconcile themselves with the thought that, hey, those are just brown people. You can't expect them to have civilized views on abortion and gay rights! 

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Scheer has already said he's not going down that road.  Some of the anti-abortion groups who support him have suggested that while he won't initiate anything, he would support private members bills for making abortion and gay marriage illegal.  

First, Cite.

Second if he didn't let a member of his party do a private members bill he's be criticized as authoritarian. 

[Boges]

11 minutes ago, Omni said:

Who is "courting" Muslims?

Dunno, the party that proposed a bill trying to stamp out Islamophobia. 

[Omni]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

Dunno, the party that proposed a bill trying to stamp out Islamophobia. 

Would you be happier if it was to stamp out Christianophobia?

[Boges]

1 minute ago, Omni said:

Would you be happier if it was to stamp out Christianophobia?

No, I think we have laws that deal with Hate Speech already.

Stuff like M103 only serve to pander to minority groups and can be used as a vehicle to tar and feather opponents as racists. 

[dialamah]

9 minutes ago, Boges said:

First, Cite.

Second if he didn't let a member of his party do a private members bill he's be criticized as authoritarian. 

From Right Now co-founder Alissa Golob:

Andrew Scheer has said that the government will not introduce legislation on abortion. When leadership candidates (or even elected leaders) of political parties say that, it means the cabinet. Let’s say the Conservatives win 180 seats in the next federal election and of the 180 MPs, 30 of them are in cabinet. That means 150 other Conservative MPs would be allowed to introduce a private members’ bill on this. He also never said that he would whip his cabinet not to vote for pro-life motions or bills nor did he say he himself would not vote for them either.

Perhaps she's wrong; what do you think?

[Omni]

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

No, I think we have laws that deal with Hate Speech already.

Stuff like M103 only serve to pander to minority groups and can be used as a vehicle to tar and feather opponents as racists. 

103 won't stop you from being an opponent, but it might help those who do subscribe from being tarred and feathered. 

[Boges]

6 minutes ago, dialamah said:

From Right Now co-founder Alissa Golob:

Perhaps she's wrong; what do you think?

I think that's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. I think that position is measured. Harper did allow a vote on Gay Marriage and when it was defeated we all moved on. 

Patrick Brown in Ontario is having that problem right now where the far right of the party is unhappy with him because he flip flopped on a pledge (during a Bi-Election campaign) to scrap the Sex Ed Curriculum. 

These are the problems with a Big Tent Party, people aren't always going to agree. 

Edited May 29, 2017 by Boges

[betsy]

37 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Scheer has already said he's not going down that road.  Some of the anti-abortion groups who support him have suggested that while he won't initiate anything, he would support private members bills for making abortion and gay marriage illegal.  

Scheer said he isn't going to silence the MPs from expressing their views.

[dialamah]

18 minutes ago, Boges said:

I think that's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario

No doubt, but with friends like that Scheer will have an uphill battle persuading people he's committed to leaving these issues alone.

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, dialamah said:

No doubt, but with friends like that Scheer will have an uphill battle persuading people he's committed to leaving these issues alone.

If he says he's not, believe him. 

The Liberals spent the entire tenure of Harper's leadership fearing about a hidden social agenda that he never acted on. And the critique I'm hearing most about Scheer is that he's a lot like Harper. 

Edited May 29, 2017 by Boges

[dialamah]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

If he says he's not, believe him. 

Believe a politician trying to get elected? Hahahahaha 

Anyway, I'm inclined to take him at his word than not.  Despite the hopes and dreams of Right Now and similar groups I think it would be political suicide for Conservatives to limit abortion and reverse gay marriage laws.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, Boges said:

Stuff like M103 only serve to pander to minority groups and can be used as a vehicle to tar and feather opponents as racists. 

Pandering and identity politics is all Trudeau knows. That and endless selfies and carefully arranged and choreographed 'candid' pictures of him, of course.

[Boges]

2019 will be

Dimples vs Hair vs Beard