Taking False Credit = Telling Lies. The shades of Liberals

[PIK]

23 hours ago, Omni said:

Harper, for all his efforts got 0 pipeline's approved in his nearly a decade in office. The fact that both Trudeau and the other amigo phoned Trump to discuss MATO and that Trump admits those discussions swayed him, and the fact that Trudeau did not put words in Sajjan's mouth should go some way to blunt this round of your anti Trudeau rant. You'll have to try harder. A lot harder.

I think harper had 4 pipelines and XL is his, not trudeau. And I think the 35 governors that need business with canada had more to do with trump's decision . And if you read the art of the deal, trumps says to start a neg you need to hit your opponent in the head. Nice try Omni, but no matter what you think, trudeau is the worst and history will prove that.

[Moonlight Graham]

I'm shocked that a government, let alone a Liberal government, lied about something.  Most politicians are scumbags.

[Argus]

19 hours ago, Omni said:

I was only including the land that does belong to them. 

Well that's silly. The pipelines don't directly go through the lands of most of the natives opposing them.

[Omni]

22 minutes ago, Argus said:

Well that's silly. The pipelines don't directly go through the lands of most of the natives opposing them.

Apparently the courts disagree with you.

[Omni]

2 hours ago, PIK said:

I think harper had 4 pipelines and XL is his, not trudeau. And I think the 35 governors that need business with canada had more to do with trump's decision . And if you read the art of the deal, trumps says to start a neg you need to hit your opponent in the head. Nice try Omni, but no matter what you think, trudeau is the worst and history will prove that.

Yep we've all seen just how good Trump is at the "art of the deal" since taking office. Seems he may have taken a hit to the head.

 

 

[Omni]

5 hours ago, betsy said:

Trudeau took credit as being the one to have explained to Trump about the basics of NAFTA

Then good for Trudeau. Between him and nieto they educated the Donald. At least a little. 

[Argus]

30 minutes ago, Omni said:

Apparently the courts disagree with you.

The courts often disagree with me. The courts are often wrong.

[Omni]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

The courts often disagree with me. The courts are often wrong.

Luckily courts rely on evidence.

[Hydraboss]

44 minutes ago, Omni said:

Luckily courts rely on evidence.

Or just their own interpretation of "what's right" without any consideration of the intent of the law.

[Omni]

13 minutes ago, Hydraboss said:

Or just their own interpretation of "what's right" without any consideration of the intent of the law.

We're a little off topic but yes the courts are simply people and therefore not perfect. I would add that the two items you mention are not mutually exclusive.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, Omni said:

Luckily courts rely on evidence.

And the evidence was that most of the native bands opposing the pipeline didn't own any land anywhere near its proposed route.

[Omni]

16 minutes ago, Argus said:

And the evidence was that most of the native bands opposing the pipeline didn't own any land anywhere near its proposed route.

The problem with crossing native land was more south of the border. North of the border it was Harper's failure to consult.

[bush_cheney2004]

Fun to watch Team Trudeau squirm with their self inflicted wounds.

If a Conservative minister had told such "whoppers", the Liberals would want their head on a pole.

Stolen Valour

 

[Omni]

21 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Fun to watch Team Trudeau squirm with their self inflicted wounds.

If a Conservative minister had told such "whoppers", the Liberals would want their head on a pole.

Stolen Valour

 

Ha! That's not even a snack compared to the lies the Harper Cons. told. You should learn where not to poke a stick sometimes.

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/08/02/harpers-kingdom-home-of-the-whopper/

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/10/30/house-of-the-whopper-pm-has-spun-such-a-web-of-deceit-he-should-resign-or-be-dismissed

http://montrealsimon.blogspot.ca/2015/08/stephen-harper-and-lies-that-will.html

[scribblet]

I tried one which wouldn't open, got a 404, but they sounded like they came from the pen of Mike Harris, a 'journalist' so biased and bitter he's predictable,  I wouldn't read anything from Montreal Simon either, another blogger so biased I wouldn't take notice of anything he writes either.  I don't call their rantings journalism.

Bev Oda had to step down because she violated the party values, obviously by he's not firing Sajjan for lying (and Monsef)  as lying must be a Liberal value.  

 

Edited May 2, 2017 by scribblet

[Omni]

Shooting the messenger does not undo the message. 

[scribblet]

But the message isn't necessarily correct, both writers are giving opinions based on their own bias and prejudice. 

[Omni]

21 minutes ago, scribblet said:

But the message isn't necessarily correct, both writers are giving opinions based on their own bias and prejudice. 

Perhaps you weren't listening to QP as often as I was when Harper was constantly lying over, oh, for instance the $90k check to Duffy. When you get it from the horses mouth you don't have to worry about the messenger.

[Argus]

14 hours ago, Omni said:

Perhaps you weren't listening to QP as often as I was when Harper was constantly lying over, oh, for instance the $90k check to Duffy. When you get it from the horses mouth you don't have to worry about the messenger.

And yet, you evidently only have a problem with lies when they're told by Conservatives.

[Boges]

Telling people you did something when you didn't do something isn't a mistake, it's outright deceit. 

[Omni]

2 hours ago, Argus said:

And yet, you evidently only have a problem with lies when they're told by Conservatives.

They just seemed to be so clumsy about it you can't miss them.

[GritBusters]

On 4/30/2017 at 4:52 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

The Liberal party has lied so often for so long it the "natural ruling" state for Canada's self-appointed "natural ruling party".

 

Like Bush and Cheney, all the Liberal Party of Canada ever does is lie.

[scribblet]

Just more and more sunny ways as the Liberal lies get louder

[scribblet]

21 hours ago, Omni said:

Perhaps you weren't listening to QP as often as I was when Harper was constantly lying over, oh, for instance the $90k check to Duffy. When you get it from the horses mouth you don't have to worry about the messenger.

Not to hijack this thread, but Harper didn't lie about any 90 K cheque

[Omni]

57 minutes ago, scribblet said:

Not to hijack this thread, but Harper didn't lie about any 90 K cheque

Oh he either lied or he had no idea what the hell was going on in the PMO. I think it's pretty obvious he lied.