The U.S. Launched 59 Cruise Missiles against an airfield in Syria .

[-1=e^ipi]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Syria and the Russians were suppose to declare and destroy stockpiles years ago.

How do we know that the rebels didn't create this stockpile?

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, -1=e^ipi said:

How do we know that the rebels didn't create this stockpile?

 

Because we know Assad did...as did his father.

[capricorn]

4 minutes ago, -1=e^ipi said:

I don't buy it.

Hey that's fine by me. If it makes you feel any better, I don't doubt millions feel the same way.

[-1=e^ipi]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Nonsense.....Russian jet/pilot violated Turkish air space.

 

And a 10 second violation justifies shooting down a pilot and a fighter plane? I thought Turkey and Russia were on the same side fighting ISIS. Or at least Turkey claims it is against ISIS. Cause we know Turkey is trustworthy. *sarcasm*

Edited April 7, 2017 by -1=e^ipi

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, -1=e^ipi said:

 

And a 10 second violation justifies shooting down a pilot and a fighter plane? I thought Turkey and Russia were on the same side fighting ISIS. Or at least Turkey claims it is against ISIS. Cause we know Turkey is trustworthy. *sarcasm*

 

Yes...it does given the context.   It's a war zone.

[capricorn]

6 minutes ago, -1=e^ipi said:

Maybe it was the rebels, maybe it was Assad. I don't know. I'm not the one going 'Oh it's definately Assad, therefore we need Western countries to overthrow Assad so that we can create a power vacuum for the Islamists to take over the country'.

Oh I see, you're major concern is what happens after Assad. So you would keep a war criminal in power because you fear the result of taking him down.

Power vacuum means nothing when  a country's innocents are being wiped out. I say let's deal with one problem at a time.

[Army Guy]

15 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

So you claim Assad, his forces and also the rebels are using chemical weapons , don't use wpn anymore. Use the right words here.

The line was drawn last time that the claim of chemical weapons were used in Syria.  Nothing happened. But nice distraction from what's going on in Iraq with the failure to push ISIS out of Mosul Iraq.

I did not make the claim, it is a known fact..... that all sides have used chemical wpns in their attacks....

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/world/middleeast/syria-bashar-al-assad-atrocities-civilian-deaths-gas-attack.html

Bullshit, assads forces have used chlorine gas on a regular basis.....in fact they say over 1100 Syrians have been killed in Chemical attacks since the start of fighting inside Syria...while not very effective, they are wpns of terror.

 

[-1=e^ipi]

47 minutes ago, capricorn said:

Power vacuum means nothing when  a country's innocents are being wiped out. I say let's deal with one problem at a time.

Cause that approach has been working so well the past 15 years...

[-1=e^ipi]

41 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Bullshit, assads forces have used chlorine gas on a regular basis...

Cool, now if only you could deal with that pesky thing called evidence.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, -1=e^ipi said:

I don't care what the 'consensus' is. Show me the evidence. Prove Syria did it and not the 'rebels'.

Nobody needs to prove anything to you. The Americans are quite certain who did it since that entire area is covered by satellites and advanced radar control systems. They were able to see which aircraft dropped the damn thing and track it right back to where it took off and landed.

 

[-1=e^ipi]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

Nobody needs to prove anything to you. The Americans are quite certain who did it since that entire area is covered by satellites and advanced radar control systems. They were able to see which aircraft dropped the damn thing and track it right back to where it took off and landed.

Then they should release that information to the public.

[Argus]

1 minute ago, -1=e^ipi said:

Then they should release that information to the public.

Maybe they will. It only happened last night. On the other hand, if they're using high tech systems they think the Russians don't have much technical information on they won't.

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, -1=e^ipi said:

Then they should release that information to the public.

 

Why ?   Do you think the U.S. government needs your support that demands "proof" ?

 

[DogOnPorch]

The issue that leaves me scratching my head is why such a limited nerve agent attack?

If you're going to solve yer problems with Sarin...put the foot to the ol' firewall.

A few dozen civilian casualties....hmmmm. That didn't solve anything...

[capricorn]

15 minutes ago, -1=e^ipi said:

Cause that approach has been working so well the past 15 years...

You're not a clairvoyant and neither am I. Unlike you, I am prepared to accept that once Assad is neutralized, that situation will be addressed and resolved. And you never know, the solution to the "power vacuum" that you so dread, might just come from the Syrians themselves.

[kactus]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

The U.S. launched 59 Tomahawk Cruise missiles against a Syrian airfield after notifying the Russians the attack would be coming, enabling everyone to get out of the airfield in time.  This was in reaction to the chemical gas attacks against men, women, and children a few days ago.  News reports say it is to send a message to Assad not to do it again.  Canada PM announced Canada supports this action.

What happens next in Syria? 

You have misspelled Syria in your title.

[Army Guy]

27 minutes ago, -1=e^ipi said:

Cool, now if only you could deal with that pesky thing called evidence.

Asked these guys, they are the ones that are claiming that Syrian army sources are using chemical wpns.....Unless the New York times are not vetting their stories.....

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/world/middleeast/syria-bashar-al-assad-atrocities-civilian-deaths-gas-attack.html

[kactus]

1 hour ago, -1=e^ipi said:

USA has made lots of nonsense claims in the past such as Sadam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction.

I think the intelligence community is littered with confirmation bias, making it unreliable.

The intel community does not reveal much....Enough to cause ambiguity...

One if the reports saud that the syrian patients are kept in a turkish hospital but they cannot be interviewed...

[kactus]

The problem with Syria is that there is no credible opposition to Assad if the West tries to topple him. Any rebel opposition friendly to the sunni Saudi Arabia will bolster ISIS.

[DogOnPorch]

Syrian Su-22 sorties apparently are continuing from the said attacked airbase (Shayrat: two squadrons are based there). So I'm wondering what the 59 missiles hit...exactly. Not the runways or Su-22s, apparently.

(shrugs)

Su-22s are export versions of the venerable Su-17 Fitter

 

Edited April 7, 2017 by DogOnPorch

[capricorn]

1 hour ago, kactus said:

The intel community does not reveal much....Enough to cause ambiguity...

The proof is solid enough to convince Trudeau that Assad is behind the chemical weapons attack. With that, I would not be inclined to insist that the US intel community make public what they know.

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Trudeau convinced by U.S. info that Assad was behind gas attack

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-convinced-by-u-s-info-that-assad-was-behind-gas-attack-1.3358828

[bush_cheney2004]

Trudeau did nothing about the gas attacks, except wait for Trump to act.   A true leader !

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trudeau did nothing about the gas attacks, except wait for Trump to act.   A true leader !

 

CBC/Pravda confirms JT's approval of Trump's actions.

[Topaz]

Trump had no choice but to shot a warning shot costing 1.4 million per missile,wow.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, Topaz said:

Trump had no choice but to shot a warning shot costing 1.4 million per missile,wow.

 

Trump had a choice, and he chose to act.   Obama and Trudeau did nothing.