Half of Canada could be an immigrant or the child of an immigrant within the next 20 years

[H10]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

The standard of living is not higher in Europe, nor in Norway. Taxes are higher, not lower, and people generally live in much smaller apartments and houses with less 'stuff' than we take for granted.

No, taxes are lower. Norway has far more deductions and they refund your tax credits you also tend to get your apartment and car from your company, which is why people live frequently in smaller houses, but it is a choice.  What the heck are you talking about if people want big houses, its alot easier in Oslo than Toronto.

Oslo,Norway, suburb.

Justin Bieber stayed in this house in 12 minutes drive from Oslo city center.

 

Stein Erik Hagen lives in this castle outside the city of Larvik

 

 

[H10]

14 hours ago, dialamah said:

Which begs the question:  why are you here?

For my business.  Most buyers are American so it makes sense I stay nearer to the market.

My family also lives here and my parents are getting up their in age, where they need me to some times shovel some snow or do some thing or the other.

My extended family is all here as well or in nearby nations.  Moving away seems like a good thing, until a family get sick or worse and you realize you cannot just go back and live your life abroad as if nothing is wrong. 

Also if you want to function in Norway, you have to make connections in the business world which takes time, you have to try to break into social circles, you have to also learn the language which is going to set you back 3-5 years just to gain decent proficiency.

[CITIZEN_2015]

I hope that I live to see that day as it would be a greatt day provided immigrants are selected based on values as well as merits

[Argus]

22 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I hope that I live to see that day as it would be a greatt day provided immigrants are selected based on values as well as merits

Why would it be a great day? Do you not like people who grow up in Canada?

[CITIZEN_2015]

8 minutes ago, Argus said:

Why would it be a great day? Do you not like people who grow up in Canada?

It would be a great day because I will see beautiful faces walking around me like walking in downtown Montreal today I see orientals, middle eastern, Caucasians, ebonies, Latin, native all beautiful faces passing by me and smiling at me. I walk a block to get Chinese food and another block to get middles eastern food and same block to get Italian, English, Russian, Japanese, American, Canadian restaurants to eat and enjoy DIVERSITY in a friendly peaceful environment where people are judged by the size of their hearts and not the color of their skin. Heaven as I call downtown Montreal will be extended to all over Canada and Canada will be the heaven on earth.

Edited February 1, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015

[Argus]

3 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

It would be a great day because I will see beautiful faces walking around me like walking in downtown Montreal today

You already see that in every major city.

[CITIZEN_2015]

2 minutes ago, Argus said:

You already see that in every major city.

Yes only in a few major cities like Montreal. Toronto and Vancouver but it will be extended to all over Canada, even small cities and towns. But I should have said beautiful DIVERSE faces from all races from all over the world. 

Edited February 1, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015

[Army Guy]

4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

It would be a great day because I will see beautiful faces walking around me like walking in downtown Montreal today I see orientals, middle eastern, Caucasians, ebonies, Latin, native all beautiful faces passing by me and smiling at me. I walk a block to get Chinese food and another block to get middles eastern food and same block to get Italian, English, Russian, Japanese, American, Canadian restaurants to eat and enjoy DIVERSITY in a friendly peaceful environment where people are judged by the size of their hearts and not the color of their skin. Heaven as I call downtown Montreal will be extended to all over Canada and Canada will be the heaven on earth.

Yes and with the good also comes the bad....Italian ,Russian and Chinese mafia, Jamaican drug lords, and gangs, Not all rainbows and unicorns....but we are a diverse nation....

[CITIZEN_2015]

36 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Yes and with the good also comes the bad....Italian ,Russian and Chinese mafia, Jamaican drug lords, and gangs, Not all rainbows and unicorns....but we are a diverse nation....

Again I point out the SELECTIVITY. Only under those conditions we will find our way to heaven otherwise if we let in everyone who asks or claims refugees like Germans did then we will create our own hell and God Forbid will witness our innocent women and children attacked and molested on New Years Eve as SOME Syrian refugees did last year. Kick the bastards out to the hell they came from

Edited February 1, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015

[Army Guy]

4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Again I point out the SELECTIVITY. Only under those conditions we will find our way to heaven otherwise if we let in everyone who asks or claims refugees like Germans did then we will create our own hell and God Forbid will witness our innocent women and children attacked and molested on New Years eve as SOME Syrian refugees did last year. Kick the bastards out to the hell they came from

I agree , but one problem our current immigration system was the one that let all these bad guys into our country in the first place.....how do we correct all this and only let in those that we need or as you suggested want.....Shit we can't even capture the ones that did not meet our lofty goals, while waiting to become citizens....or while just new citizens....

[CITIZEN_2015]

11 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I agree , but one problem our current immigration system was the one that let all these bad guys into our country in the first place.....how do we correct all this and only let in those that we need or as you suggested want.....Shit we can't even capture the ones that did not meet our lofty goals, while waiting to become citizens....or while just new citizens....

The current immigration system needs improvements and some significant improvements too. We can't do much about the bad apples already here except to enforce existing laws that if they are immigrants and commit crimes then deport them or if citizens then put them in jail (unfortunately we don't have Capital Punishment to send them to hell). But in future we must base our system on selectivity based on Canadian values (Respect for human rights and equality and respect for women and compassion and love of neighbor and respect for freedom and democracy),  as well as merits (education, assets, employment potential, contributions to Canada). Unfortunately most of our politicians are too afraid to make it happen anytime soon and even attack those who dare ro speak up. Too sad.

Edited February 1, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015

[Army Guy]

12 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

The current immigration system needs improvements and some significant improvements too. We can't do much about the bad apples already here except to enforce existing laws that if they are immigrants and commit crimes then deport them or if citizens then put them in jail (unfortunately we don't have Capital Punishment to send them to hell). But in future we must base our system on selectivity based on Canadian values (Respect for human rights and equality and respect for women and compassion and love of neighbor and respect for freedom and democracy),  as well as merits (education, assets, employment potential, contributions to Canada). Unfortunately most of our politicians are too afraid to make it happen anytime soon and even attack those who dare ro speak up. Too sad.

i agree totally, it needs to be done very soon....before we end up getting over run by liberal feel good politics....

[-TSS-]

Norway is a very rich country. There is only Switzerland in Europe which is comparable to Norway in that respect. To quote Norway as an example how the standard of living in Europe is higher than on the American continent is similar like quoting a country like Bolivia when trying to make a point how poor people are on the American continent.

Ok, a poor analogy but you get what I mean, don't you.

Every year a lot of low-skilled workers from Finland move to Norway to do some boring menial jobs such as working at fish-factories etc because the locals can't be bothered as the pay is so low by their standards but certainly very good by the Finnish standards.

As for the rest of Europe surely the standard of living in Canada is higher than it is in Britain, I guess as I've never been to Canada, and it most certainly is higher in Canada than in Finland. Our socialist utopia is crumbling to pieces and in the 2020's we will have poverty not seen since 100 years ago and there will be serious unrest too. 

 

lohocomes ev

[Argus]

A check with polls shows Canadians are a lot more ambivalent about immigration than the politicians seem to be pretending. In particular nearly 60% said they agreed or strongly agreed that too many immigrants are not strongly connected to Canadian society (5% disagreed), and 65% said immigrants need to change their behaviour and be more like Canadians (10% disagreed). Somewhat surprisingly, only 45% would oppose a complete halt to immigration. Almost 20% supported it while everyone else was on the fence.

Given these polls were taken at random and not simply of 'old stock' Canadians, I think it's safe to assume the numbers would be even more supportive of immigrants assimilating were only the Canadian born queried.

People were given a list of candidates for the various parties and given their immigration policies, and according to the summary:

However, among none of the parties was there clear evidence of an electoral benefit to more open immigration or refugee policies. Indeed, among Conservatives, accepting zero Syrian refugees is a “winning” strategy, and among NDP partisans, a candidate that called for increasing economic immigration appears to suffer a large electoral penalty.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/michael-j-donnelly-and-peter-loewen-canadians-feelings-about-immigration-are-mixed-at-best

[bush_cheney2004]

Canada will be getting a lot more immigrants and refugees as long as it has an open borders schmuck for prime minister.

[taxme]

On 1/27/2017 at 8:23 PM, hernanday said:

If you think anyone from Europe would even want to come to live here, you have never been to Europe.  I have lived in Europe, the standard of living is so much higher than ours, in nations like Norway, people pay less taxes, they have better public transit, free education right through university to the ph.d level, generous government grants and benefits even by Canadian standards for people on welfare and who cannot find work, prison in Norway looks like club med, police don't even have to carry guns, and they can take a long weekend vacation to Italy, London, France, Spain, Czech, Hungary, Greece, Portugal, Germany or former Yugoslavia and pay a fraction of the price in alot of these places, as it would cost you to go to Wasaga beach or something like that.  You just cannot compare living in a country where someone can take a weekend vacation to sunny italian or greek beaches on a flight faster than it takes many of us to commutte.  No one is leaving Europe where a place like Oslo area has more subway stops and train stops than TTC despite having 1/5th the population.

 

Sorry, Canada has a severe political corruption problem which is top down.  Do you know what it is like to not wait more than 10 minutes for a bus even in a lonely suburb bus stop and still pay less in fare than Canada when there is 1 foot of snow on the ground?  I've come to the conclusion that the main cause of Canada's ills is political corruption and Canadian general greed.  Norwegians are smart enough to not buy every made in China good.  To move to Canada would be foolish for most upwardly mobile Europeans or even poor ones.  You are going to move to a nation where you don't speak the language, you have no connections, you going to struggle to find work, have to pay for things that are free in your country, leave your family, friends, and take on a bunch of expenses for what?

It makes no sense.

There does not appear to be a problem for the third world to immigrate to Canada. I guess that they have learned that Canada is a great place for welfare and plenty of taxpayer's tax dollars waiting for them too come blow. That is what will eventually bankrupt us all. If Canada had less business/personal taxes and less rules and environmental regulations maybe Europeans would come to Canada. Europeans didn't seem to have a problem coming to North America over a hundred years ago. Most that came did quite well.

My personal belief is that there is a conspiracy to flood this country with people from the third world, and setup the Caucasian people to become a minority in Canada. And if you cannot see that well there is no hope for you. Just keep on believing that the third world immigrants coming to Canada really do care about becoming and assimilating into the Canadian culture and lifestyle. How and why would they want too when thanks to multiculturalism they can now have their own churches, meeting places, TV, radio, newspapers all in their own language. And the Caucasian Canadian people help support and allow this to happen. Canadians are all about me-me-me and make money and that is all that appears to be on their agenda. My grandchildren are going to pay a heavy price once they become the minority. They will have to learn the ways of the third world and how things are done over in those countries. The third world people will offer Caucasians nothing but hard labor, no government services, and an infrastructure that will crumble apart, and a population explosion. I have been to many third world countries, and I am sure as hell happy that I do not live in any one of them that I have visited. If you think that life will be a lot better in a white minority country well what more can be said. You will reap what you sow, and the product that you sow will not be pleasant. 

[taxme]

On 2/7/2017 at 10:09 AM, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canada will be getting a lot more immigrants and refugees as long as it has an open borders schmuck for prime minister.

Indeed. They just had on the Canadian news the other day about how refugees are starting to flood into Canada from America. We may well need to have to put a wall up to keep them out. Ya right. Knowing most of our politicians and our fearless leader PM and their attitude towards illegals the PM will probably be standing at the border handing out goodies to them. Welcome to Canada, and here is some taxpayer's tax dollars to help you get settled away. 

And this same PM is about to hand over 70 million Canadian tax dollars to Haiti in the from of development aid. Haiti after their earthquake received billions of foreign-aid dollars and building material and equipment and medical supplies, and after all these years they still need more?  They should by now be a place where tourists would want to flock too. But it is not. I know of no cruise line that has a stop over in Haiti. They go by it. The country is a disaster and a write off, and there is nothing you can do with a people who will not try and do anything for themselves or their country. But trudeau doesn't care. He just loves to blow Canadian tax dollars on useless marxist liberal programs and agendas that serve no purpose except to try and make himself look like Mr. Wonderful. But what else can one expect from a liberal PM schmuck except more debt for the people and more money for the banksters. I have to keep wondering as to how it will take before Canadians start to ask questions as to how their tax dollars are being blown. Sad.    

[taxme]

On 2/3/2017 at 4:36 PM, -TSS- said:

Norway is a very rich country. There is only Switzerland in Europe which is comparable to Norway in that respect. To quote Norway as an example how the standard of living in Europe is higher than on the American continent is similar like quoting a country like Bolivia when trying to make a point how poor people are on the American continent.

Ok, a poor analogy but you get what I mean, don't you.

Every year a lot of low-skilled workers from Finland move to Norway to do some boring menial jobs such as working at fish-factories etc because the locals can't be bothered as the pay is so low by their standards but certainly very good by the Finnish standards.

As for the rest of Europe surely the standard of living in Canada is higher than it is in Britain, I guess as I've never been to Canada, and it most certainly is higher in Canada than in Finland. Our socialist utopia is crumbling to pieces and in the 2020's we will have poverty not seen since 100 years ago and there will be serious unrest too. 

 

lohocomes ev

Most Canadians are a sleep at the switch. They have no clue about politics and how things work, and just carry on without the slightest worry or care as to what Canadian politicians are doing to them. They just walk around like everything is just hunky dory because they keep listening to their politically correct politicians who tell them this is so. 

[-TSS-]

13 hours ago, taxme said:

Most Canadians are a sleep at the switch. They have no clue about politics and how things work, and just carry on without the slightest worry or care as to what Canadian politicians are doing to them. They just walk around like everything is just hunky dory because they keep listening to their politically correct politicians who tell them this is so. 

Happens everywhere really these days. Orwell was so accurate in his book 1984 except that he got it about 30 years wrong.

People don't know what's going on and the media is full of propaganda and if you point this out you get called a Putin-troll, the name-tag they have invented to silence the dissenters.

[H10]

17 hours ago, taxme said:

There does not appear to be a problem for the third world to immigrate to Canada. I guess that they have learned that Canada is a great place for welfare and plenty of taxpayer's tax dollars waiting for them too come blow. That is what will eventually bankrupt us all. If Canada had less business/personal taxes and less rules and environmental regulations maybe Europeans would come to Canada. Europeans didn't seem to have a problem coming to North America over a hundred years ago. Most that came did quite well.

Good luck with coming up with the tens of thousands of dollars in a 3rd world country to immigrate to Canada to go on welfare. That doesn't even make any sense, you are going to save half your income working for 15 years to move to Canada and live worse than you did in your own country?  With the exception of refugees, immigrants have to have money to come here.  Europeans have much more rules and environmental regulations than Canada.  Europeans aren't going to move to a higher tax, lower service, lower quality living country, what don't you get about that.  Its like asking why don't more British people move to pakistan and bangladesh.  Europe was poor over 100 years ago, they had people dying in the streets, huge wars, mass poverty etc.  Even Norway was very poor and short on land back then.

 

17 hours ago, taxme said:

My personal belief is that there is a conspiracy to flood this country with people from the third world, and setup the Caucasian people to become a minority in Canada. And if you cannot see that well there is no hope for you. Just keep on believing that the third world immigrants coming to Canada really do care about becoming and assimilating into the Canadian culture and lifestyle. How and why would they want too when thanks to multiculturalism they can now have their own churches, meeting places, TV, radio, newspapers all in their own language. And the Caucasian Canadian people help support and allow this to happen. Canadians are all about me-me-me and make money and that is all that appears to be on their agenda. My grandchildren are going to pay a heavy price once they become the minority. They will have to learn the ways of the third world and how things are done over in those countries. The third world people will offer Caucasians nothing but hard labor, no government services, and an infrastructure that will crumble apart, and a population explosion. I have been to many third world countries, and I am sure as hell happy that I do not live in any one of them that I have visited. If you think that life will be a lot better in a white minority country well what more can be said. You will reap what you sow, and the product that you sow will not be pleasant. 

What is wrong with pink people being a numerical minority in Canada, pink people are already a minority or on the verge of it in many cities like Toronto, Vancouver, Bramptom, Richmond Hill, etc and those are nice places, even for the pink people.  Canada has no culture.  How do you know your grandchildren will even live in Canada?  How do you even know your grandkids will be white, there is a good chance your kids run off with a non-white person to spite you.  I see it all the times, white people with racist parents running off with a yellow man or african man.

Some non-white nations like Bermuda, Singapore, etc. enjoy higher standards of living then Canada.

[taxme]

On 2/12/2017 at 6:21 AM, -TSS- said:

Happens everywhere really these days. Orwell was so accurate in his book 1984 except that he got it about 30 years wrong.

People don't know what's going on and the media is full of propaganda and if you point this out you get called a Putin-troll, the name-tag they have invented to silence the dissenters.

I have come to the opinion that most Canadians just don't give a dam. Indeed their favorite words they like to use when they don't agree with you is Putin or Trump troll. The word racist is the one that they like to use more. That really can shut people down. And if those people allow themselves to be shut down then they are cowards and wimps. You either believe in what you say and stand by what you say, and fight back or why did you bother to say anything at all. This is where all those alternative media websites come in. They will teach and show you how to fight back with statistics against those intolerant and bigoted liberal loser haters. That is why those liberals will never win with me. I am well informed on how they think and act, and they will not be able to feed me any of their bull. It has been working well for me for being politically incorrect.  

[dre]

If you dont like immigration then fvck your wife without birth control. Ejaculate into her vagina and make a little baby. If you have more than two, then you are doing your part to reduce immigration. If you dont youre just blowing hot air. Because immigration targets are set to sustain population growth... and the businesses and banks that run the government are never going to enact policies that shrink the population.