dialamah Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, Argus said: Slavery has a long history in the Arab world, and is still practiced In Egypt today, never mind boko haram and ISiS. Both of them, btw, cite the Koran as justification for slavery. Yes, slavery does exist in Egypt. It also exists in Canada and the States. Slavery exists in every single part of the world. Because Egypt fails to even acknowledge that slavery exists and is a problem within it's borders, it's hard for them to "justify" it with the Quran. But I've no doubt there are Egyptian Muslims who use the Quran to justify their enslaving someone, just as there are Christian Americans who use the Bible to justify polygamy and marrying children. But slavery is not a mainstream practice supported by Islam generally, just as polygamy and pedophilia are not mainstream practices supported by Christianity. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 Ahmed Rassam....Muslim refugee arrival in Canada who wanted to bomb LAX ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 Just now, Argus said: It does not exist here. Not in anything like the form it exists in the Muslim world. What you are talking about are people intimidated into doing things they don't want, not people held in slavery who have no way to escape. You need to read up on children and teenagers in sex trafficking. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Argus Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Omni said: Once again you continue to paint all Muslims with the same xenophobic brush. Make it tough to deal with. you. Where are your MSM reports showing where all this violence has followed the Muslim refugee arrivals. Perhaps you can find me a single instance where I used the word 'all'. There is no way of discussing group behavior without generalizing. Anyone with even a reasonable degree of intelligence understands there will be individual variation within a group. That does not invalidate what we can expect of the GROUP in terms of behavior. Edited December 18, 2016 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
herples Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, Argus said: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e4e6b380c3134a93a11e25158d7fd47f/century-old-rule-book-describes-kkk-beliefs-practices Not evidence of a system of beliefs. They don't believe they have to pray five times a day, fast during a specific month of a the year or go on pilgrimages. The Klan aimed to terrorize blacks simple as that. The confederate veterans and their supporters didn't want the social situation to change. Quote
Argus Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Posted December 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, dialamah said: Yes, slavery does exist in Egypt. It also exists in Canada and the States. Slavery exists in every single part of the world. That's the same kind of nonsensical cultural equivalence which lets you pretend that domestic abuse in the West is the same as it is in the Muslim world. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Posted December 18, 2016 1 minute ago, herples said: Not evidence of a system of beliefs. They don't believe they have to pray five times a day, fast during a specific month of a the year or go on pilgrimages. The Klan aimed to terrorize blacks simple as that. The confederate veterans and their supporters didn't want the social situation to change. It clearly is a system of beliefs, whether it relates directly to religion or something else. And the end result is the same if you're a Jew anyway. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
herples Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Argus said: It clearly is a system of beliefs, whether it relates directly to religion or something else. And the end result is the same if you're a Jew anyway. There is no belief system since the aims of the KKK was to maintain the status quo in the South in the favour of whites. Quote
dialamah Posted December 18, 2016 Report Posted December 18, 2016 57 minutes ago, Argus said: That's the same kind of nonsensical cultural equivalence which lets you pretend that domestic abuse in the West is the same as it is in the Muslim world. Show me exactly where slavery is legal, approved or condoned in Egypt. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 4 hours ago, dialamah said: Western imperialism and expansion into the Middle East has killed far more people than Islamic terrorism. Ask India about that one. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 3 hours ago, herples said: None of this really matters other than comparing Islam and the KKK is comparing apples to oranges. Nope...both are religious groups. Folks like yourself insist Islam is some sort of race or skin colour...it isn't. It's a religion/cult/political movement. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
herples Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Nope...both are religious groups. Folks like yourself insist Islam is some sort of race or skin colour...it isn't. It's a religion/cult/political movement. Quite a stretch you are making there calling the KKK a religious group. I never called Islam a race or skin color you are putting words in my mouth. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 Just now, herples said: Quite a stretch you are making there calling the KKK a religious group. I never called Islam a race or skin color you are putting words in my mouth. The KKK were founded to be against Jews and Catholics specifically (Carpetbaggers...the real problem, afatwc)...so yeah...it's religious. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Goddess Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 18 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Ahmed Rassam....Muslim refugee arrival in Canada who wanted to bomb LAX ! This is a concern of mine. That Canada is letting in exteremists and it will damage our relationship with the US. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Omni Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 16 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: The KKK were founded to be against Jews and Catholics specifically (Carpetbaggers...the real problem, afatwc)...so yeah...it's religious. The Klan was founded in an attempt to restore white power by killing "freedmen" and the Republicans who freed them. So it's simply a white supremacy terrorist group. Maybe you can twist that into a religion if you like. Quote
Omni Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 26 minutes ago, Goddess said: This is a concern of mine. That Canada is letting in exteremists and it will damage our relationship with the US. Do you believe the men who flew the planes into the towers on 9-11 came in from Canada as well? Quote
Argus Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Posted December 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Omni said: Do you believe the men who flew the planes into the towers on 9-11 came in from Canada as well? No, but a lot of Americans do. Rassam is largely responsible for he long waits at the border now, and they'll get even longer if we have another guy like him that we blithely let into our country out of 'niceness'. The unvarnished truth is that if we'd never let Muslims into Canada we could just walk across the border like we used to. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Goddess Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 Just now, Omni said: Do you believe the men who flew the planes into the towers on 9-11 came in from Canada as well? No. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
GostHacked Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Omni said: Do you believe the men who flew the planes into the towers on 9-11 came in from Canada as well? Most of them were Saudis, but Iraq and Afghanistan was bombed while the US stays cozy with it's most beloved terrorist nation. Quote
Omni Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 11 minutes ago, GostHacked said: Most of them were Saudis, but Iraq and Afghanistan was bombed while the US stays cozy with it's most beloved terrorist nation. And it would be damn hard find a more glaring example of hypocrisy than that Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 36 minutes ago, Omni said: Do you believe the men who flew the planes into the towers on 9-11 came in from Canada as well? The Millennial Bomber came from Canada...thwarted. As for the Klan...their symbol is a cross. Not to mention BURNING crosses. And their motto is 'God, Race and Nation'. Quote From Wiki: It was rooted in local Protestant communities and opposed Catholics and Jews, and stressed its opposition to the Catholic Church.[6] This second organization adopted a standard white costume and used code words which were similar to those used by the first Klan, while adding cross burnings and mass parades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan I rest my case. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 So burning a cross makes your group a religion? They're racist terrorists, nothing more. Quote
Guest Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Omni said: So burning a cross makes your group a religion? They're racist terrorists, nothing more. They are religious if they say they are. And religions and racist terrorists are not mutually exclusive, as we well know. Quote
Omni Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: They are religious if they say they are. And religions and racist terrorists are not mutually exclusive, as we well know. This whole thing started with trying to equate the KKK with the Muslim faith. I;m not buying into that one. Quote
Guest Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 Just now, Omni said: This whole thing started with trying to equate the KKK with the Muslim faith. I;m not buying into that one. I understand. They would only equate to some Muslims. There is no KKK equivalent of the rest of the Muslims, as far as I know. Quote
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