Immigration of religious fanatics

[Omni]

Just now, bcsapper said:

Well, I did say I was in agreement with that right off the bat. 

I thought I was still talking to CJ when I posted that comment. 

Oh sorry. I wasn't paying enough attention and missed a bit. 

[Guest]

Just now, Omni said:

Oh sorry. I wasn't paying enough attention and missed a bit. 

No problem. I support Israel and their right to defend themselves, but that doesn't mean "Israel, right or wrong".  

I have no suggestions for a peaceful solution, however. 

[Omni]

2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No problem. I support Israel and their right to defend themselves, but that doesn't mean "Israel, right or wrong".  

I have no suggestions for a peaceful solution, however. 

I think we have all heard stories where Jews and Arabs in certain parts of the area sit down every day and chat and shop and sip tea, and live their lives in harmony. Maybe we should just ask them what to do.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Omni said:

I think we have all heard stories where Jews and Arabs in certain parts of the area sit down every day and chat and shop and sip tea, and live their lives in harmony. Maybe we should just ask them what to do.

They probably wouldn't last long if they spoke up.  There's an awful lot of hate to get over. 

[Omni]

6 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

They probably wouldn't last long if they spoke up.  There's an awful lot of hate to get over. 

I'd like to think that there is a way to get over it. Why the hell not?

[Guest]

Just now, Omni said:

I'd like to think that there is a way to get over it. Why the hell not?

Too many people. Too few resources. Basically the same problem the world over. Just compounded by an extra dose of hatred in that area. 

It's going to get worse, not better. The world over, I mean.  I guess I'm just a pessimist. 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, drummindiver said:

As you say,  show me where I said that. You can't.  

Sure I can.

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You then however support ideology that supports pedophilia

 

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I can however show where you think it ok to fjy airplanes into buildings full of people.

No you can't.

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You see the irony of your buddy Bin Laden condemning dicratorships, right?

Yes, its just as clear as the irony of watching The Shiniest most Exceptional Beacon preaching about Liberty at the same time its destroying it. Like watching a priest rape a kid while preaching about love.

 

[Omni]

1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

Too many people. Too few resources. Basically the same problem the world over. Just compounded by an extra dose of hatred in that area. 

It's going to get worse, not better. The world over, I mean.  I guess I'm just a pessimist. 

You could be right, but I hope you're not, and that's nothing personal. I think the worlds wealth has fallen into the hands of too many greedy people. To be honest, I worked for a while in Africa for a big oil company (the biggest) and I know what I was getting paid, and I know what the locals were getting paid, and I know how much the oil company was getting paid. And that's been happening for far too long.

[laura22]

Im so tired of everybody just sitting around doing nothing as their country gets taken over. obviously our government is not going to do anything about it. so.... I think its about that time we all start grouping together and start fixing the problem ourselves  before were are completely f*****!!!

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[drummindiver]

21 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's right, and then the US came along waving its Shining Beacon up high where everyone could see it and...

...what happened then appears to have been edited or washed from people's memories.  I wonder why anyone would want to do that?

They gave aid to those in need and fought oppressive regimes.

[drummindiver]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure I can.

 

No you can't.

 

Yes, its just as clear as the irony of watching The Shiniest most Exceptional Beacon preaching about Liberty at the same time its destroying it. Like watching a priest rape a kid while preaching about love.

 

 

On 17/12/2016 at 11:00 PM, eyeball said:

That doesn't wash AFAIC.  Americans know better than to behave the way they do and just as its particularly more disgusting when a priest, a shining beacon so to speak, abuses a child so to is it particularly grotesque when America goes around knocking off democracies and exporting its own variously peculiar brands of fanaticism abroad.

The extreme Muslims have been driven that way - mostly by American foreign policy. I'm not cutting one any more slack than the other.

Yes you are. You are clearly justifying atrocities ftom Muslims because they are retaliating against EE.You just bloody said it.

On 17/12/2016 at 10:39 PM, eyeball said:

You should check out what American conservative evangelicals are encouraging African governments to do in Christ's name.

American right-wing Christians are amongst the sickest puppies on the planet. So yeah, the immigration of religious fanatics is a real problem alright, conservative ones especially.

Then why is there no worldwide crisis or outcry? Oh,  yeah it isn't true. 

On 17/12/2016 at 11:09 PM, eyeball said:

No what? Millions upon millions of Americans and Canadians have voted for acting this way for decades now. You might have a point if Muslims had been left with or given the same 'opportunity'.

Odd Jews went to the same dirty shit hole and through hard work turned it into an oasis. The rest of them have had a lot longer and did nothing with it.

On 18/12/2016 at 2:44 PM, eyeball said:

 

That said there is no other nation on Earth as venal and murderous 

It's unfortunate people feel the need to fly airliners into skyscrapers to combat that but I can certainly understand why they would.

Hmmm. you clearly said it. I said you support ideology that supports pedophilia. Muslims can marry children,  you support Islam, ergo.

[GostHacked]

16 hours ago, Argus said:

You weaseled out of answering the question. Why don't you answer this. How can someone believe Christians who hate Jews and gays are horrible people, but Muslims who hate Jews and gays are moderates?

Many here have been saying they are the same. However that notion is ignored in order to create an argument where there is none. Bigotry is bigotry no matter what religion you wear.

[GostHacked]

14 hours ago, Argus said:

You may volunteer to surrender your pension and sell your possessions to help them. Nothing is stopping you.

But no, when you say 'we could do so much more" you mean "You other people should pay more money to help these foreigners while I sit fat and warm and comfortable with my government pension."

 

Meaning we can stop interfering in other nations to promote our way of life. Since that has not proved to be effective, it is insane to keep thinking that external forces (military and other) can change those nations.  Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria ect ect ect ...  are now experiencing more terrorism from extremists than they were 15 years ago. The common factor here is the invasion of those nations based on complete bogus allegations.

Our western nations say one thing, do another, which does not help our stance. That's going to make life shitty for you and me, because our leaders don't care about us.

[drummindiver]

 

 

13 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

I don't agree at all. You have no evidence of that. However I do. Most religious extremist are not interested in living in a secular society. Those that want the  primitive lifestyle stay where they can get it? Would you move to a communist society if you were a capitalist? Answer is no. Religious extremists don't want to live in Canada. They want to live in an extremist religious nation.

You do realize Islam sees the world as their caliphate and world domination or bust?

9 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

Maybe you should start with the  mormons and them marrying 13 year old girls? Or is that acceptable to you?

Muslim light? More brides,  maybe theyre too tired to be out terrorizing.

[drummindiver]

On 20/12/2016 at 10:33 AM, Canadianjim said:

Then you were made aware contrary to propaganda ,the land is called Palestine. Not Israel.

Nope. Look at a map.

22 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

That's right and muslims didn't send 6 million to the gas chambers. That was a christian nation.

You liked to use terms like false equivalency.

Hitler did not kill for or in the  name of God.   Muslims however...

21 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

Yes Hitler did exterminate the Jews. But how did it come to that? It started by lies and propaganda about Jews. A progression that gradually built hate and disgust for Jews. Myths perpetrated to manipulate thinking against Jews. Until eventually people could justify killing them.This stuff did not happen with the snap of a finger. There is a very detailed historical account of the process and the progression that eventually lead to the  concentration camp horrors.

And who propogated and inflamed thus leading to centuries of pogroms worldwide? 

[drummindiver]

10 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

When Netanayu visited the  republican congress  a few years ago  he was warning how Iran wanted to wipe Israel off the  map. But of course that meant to right wingers he wants to exterminate all the  Jews. He also mentioned in passing Khomeni was tweeting his hate. Most people missed that. You probably did to. But i didn't miss it. So I looked up Khomeni's tweets. He tweeted out a 9 point plan for the  Israel/palestinan problem. Guess what?. It has nothing to do with exterminating Jews. Go look it up yourself. The 9 point plan. It's even in the israeli newspapers.  Now you might not like the plan. You may disagree with it. But at least it may stop you from lying about. The propaganda you people have been assuming was somehow fact is inexcusable. Now I just gave you the information that you need to prove your misconceptions were false. Go ahead google the plan. Now ask your self. What else don't you know that you think you know?

lol.Did you read this?

All Palestinians where ever they are can vote.  Jews in Israel cannot. 

May stop the West from lying about it.

You have heard of taqiya?

 

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-supreme-leader-touts-9-point-plan-to-destroy-israel/

[Canadianjim]

1 hour ago, drummindiver said:

 

 

You do realize Islam sees the world as their caliphate and world domination or bust?

Muslim light? More brides,  maybe theyre too tired to be out terrorizing.

Who is terrorizing? It wasn't muslims that invaded iraq on a lie was it? Abu graighb torture wasn't muslims was it? You need to read the definition of terrorism.

[?Impact]

10 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

You never Heard of the Hague?

There are two international courts in the Hague.

The International Court of Justice is a part of the United Nations, and is where disputes between nations are heard. A wide range issues are decided here, for example boundary disputes between nations. Technically the decisions of this court are advisory, although the UN security council often gets involved in their enforcement. The obvious weak link here is that the security council is subject to veto by any of the 5 permanent members, as was done by the United States in its covert war against Nicaragua.

What the Hague is more well known for are the criminal trials against individuals (leaders) for things like mass genocide. It was here for example that the trials of NAZI war criminals took place, a separate tribunal in Tokyo dealt with Japanese war criminals. While there was interest in a permanent court, nothing could be established during the cold war. There were ad hoc tribunals set up to deal with the war crimes in the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda. It was only about a decade ago that enough nations came together to establish the permanent International Criminal Court, and its first judgement was in 2012 (child soldiers in the Congo). While the ICC operates outside of the United Nations, there are some obvious close ties. The fate of the court is questionable. Some major countries like China and India are not signatories, and African states are threatening to withdraw as they see the court as biased against them.

Of course anything that is part of the United Nations or associated with them is 'tainted' in the small minds of the ignorant. Far too many people only hear about the General Assembly or Security Council, and somehow associate these with the whole of the United Nations. Yes they are high profile parts, but only an extremely small percentage of the workings of the UN. Things like the ICAO and ITU to which these same individuals are highly dependent on in both their personal and business lives they are completely oblivious to. 

[Canadianjim]

58 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

Nope. Look at a map.

You liked to use terms like false equivalency.

Hitler did not kill for or in the  name of God.   Muslims however...

And who propogated and inflamed thus leading to centuries of pogroms worldwide? 

Hitler  didn't kill in the name of God? "and so I believe to-day that my conduct is in  accordance with the will of the  almighty Creator in standing guard against the Jew I am defending the handiwork of the Lord." Mein Kampf 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Canadianjim said:

Hitler  didn't kill in the name of God? "and so I believe to-day that my conduct is in  accordance with the will of the  almighty Creator in standing guard against the Jew I am defending the handiwork of the Lord." Mein Kampf 

No, he didn't.  And any claim that he did is disingenuous in the extreme.

[Argus]

11 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

Maybe you should start with the  mormons and them marrying 13 year old girls? Or is that acceptable to you?

No, and illegal. Would you like to discuss the Muslim fascination with pederasty and pedophilia? Since he prophet, peace be upon him, married a nine year old girl, Muslim society has, for centuries, taken that as an indication that there is nothing wrong with sex with children. Of course, you will find very little in the way of statistics about child sexual abuse in the Muslim world because such things are either not considered crimes or never reported.  Incidentally, in Iran, a country you apparently much admire, the age at which girls can be married is 12. 

[Argus]

11 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

Homosexuality? I know most conservatives disapprove of it.

Do they disapprove of it enough to kill homosexuals?

[Argus]

11 hours ago, Omni said:

OK, go ahead and show us that.

I already posted the statistics. 

[Argus]

10 hours ago, bcsapper said:

No problem. I support Israel and their right to defend themselves, but that doesn't mean "Israel, right or wrong".  

I have no suggestions for a peaceful solution, however. 

Enough with the Israel stuff, please. This is about fanatical immigrants to Canada, not the interminable Israel-Arab conflict.

[Argus]

10 hours ago, Omni said:

I'd like to think that there is a way to get over it. Why the hell not?

Because in the Muslim world you have a culture of religiously inspired intolerance backed up by laws and public violence towards anyone questioning it.