August1991 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Today is election day in Russia. No one knows, and Chinese/Indians/Africans/Europeans are not interested. ==== But everyone knows about the upcoming American election in November 2016. Everyone knows about Obama and Clinton and Trump. Everyone, around the world, all 7 billion, wonder who will be US president. Such uncertainty, such stability: while we don't know who will be the next US president, we all trust that Americans will choose one. And we all trust that Obama will voluntarily cede the White House to someone else, even Donald Trump. Edited September 18, 2016 by August1991 Quote
The_Squid Posted September 18, 2016 Report Posted September 18, 2016 It's not voluntary that Obama leaves.... It's mandatory. Quote
taxme Posted September 18, 2016 Report Posted September 18, 2016 It's not voluntary that Obama leaves.... It's mandatory. Just let Obama try something as silly as not wanting to remove his butt out of the White House. I see a revolution happening on the arisen. Quote
taxme Posted September 18, 2016 Report Posted September 18, 2016 Today is election day in Russia. No one knows, and Chinese/Indians/Africans/Europeans are not interested. ==== But everyone knows about the upcoming American election in November 2016. Everyone knows about Obama and Clinton and Trump. Everyone, around the world, all 7 billion, wonder who will be US president. Such uncertainty, such stability: while we don't know who will be the next US president, we all trust that Americans will choose one. And we all trust that Obama will voluntarily cede the White House to someone else, even Donald Trump. I certainly would not want to see Putin go. Putin is keeping the globalist elite establishment out in the trenches where they belong. All wet and cold and muddied. And the same establishment gang in America are not going to like living in their trenches that they have created for themselves. They have only themselves to blame, the bunch of terrible and meany people. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted September 19, 2016 Report Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) It's not voluntary that Obama leaves.... It's mandatory. Consider how much things have changed in politics: George Washington voluntarily ceded his position as POTUS after serving 2 terms and refused to run for a 3rd even though he was still quite popular and people wanted him to run, and even though there were no term limit laws back then, because he thought 2 terms was enough time for a politician. Imagine any politician doing that these days! What Washington did started a tradition where every POTUS after him voluntarily quit after 2 terms, until FDR went past the 2 terms tradition due to WWII, which led to Congress codifying the 2-term limit into law via the 22nd Amendment in 1947. Edited September 19, 2016 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted September 19, 2016 Report Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) Putin is pretty popular in Russia. They love that he stands up to the USA. Not surprising that his party won today. Interesting that voter turnout was only 39% though. Who really cares, it was a legislative election. We all know who controls Russian politics anyways. Edited September 20, 2016 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Argus Posted September 19, 2016 Report Posted September 19, 2016 Putin is pretty popular in Russia. They love that he stands up the USA. Not surprising that his party won today. Interesting that voter turnout was only 39% though. Well, given that there is no free press in Russia, and that Russians are constantly bombarded with 'news' about how their country is being threatened and degraded and demeaned and derided and attacked and humiliated by the evil Americans and Europeans I suppose it's not entirely surprising some people thank him for 'standing up' to them. As for the voter turnout, given the results are foreordained it shouldn't come as a surprise. There is no rule of law in Russia, so elections are something of a farce. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted September 19, 2016 Report Posted September 19, 2016 Any other time low voter turnout is cited its explained that it means the majority are happy with the status quo. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Altai Posted September 19, 2016 Report Posted September 19, 2016 Noone interested because everyone knows the results. Putin will win in Russia and Kadyrov will win in Chechnya. If you dont vote for Putin or Kadyrov, you will be found dead in a forestry area. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
?Impact Posted September 19, 2016 Report Posted September 19, 2016 Less than 50% turnout for Russian election. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Less than 50% turnout for Russian election. 39% as I said. Maybe those who don't support Putin's party stayed home because they were afraid to vote against the powers that be for fear of reprisal or some kind of conspiracy? Edited September 20, 2016 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
cybercoma Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 Shouldn't "election" be in quotes? Quote
taxme Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 Putin is pretty popular in Russia. They love that he stands up the USA. Not surprising that his party won today. Interesting that voter turnout was only 39% though. Who really cares, it was a legislative election. We all know who controls Russian politics anyways. And by now we all should know as to who really owns and runs and controls the Canadian political scene. For sure it ain't Putin. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 And by now we all should know as to who really owns and runs and controls the Canadian political scene. For sure it ain't Putin. So who does? Peter Mansbridge? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
taxme Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 39% as I said. Maybe those who don't support Putin's party stayed home because they were afraid to vote against the powers that be for fear of reprisal or some kind of conspiracy? Ya, like Putin had some of his old KGB buddies inside checking everyone out to see who was voting for whom, eh? Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 Ya, like Putin had some of his old KGB buddies inside checking everyone out to see who was voting for whom, eh? I have no idea how their elections work. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
taxme Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 So who does? Peter Mansbridge? No, Mansbridge the elite corporate puppet, only reports what they tell him to report if he wants to keep his job. The press in Canada has not been a free press for decades. Anyone who visits alternative news media websites will soon learn about this fact pretty fast. C'mon, eh? Quote
August1991 Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Consider how much things have changed in politics: George Washington voluntarily ceded his position as POTUS after serving 2 terms and refused to run for a 3rd even though he was still quite popular and people wanted him to run, and even though there were no term limit laws back then...I disagree. Washington gave up the presidency to John Adams; (Washington and Adams largely agreed, like Putin and Medvedev.) The real story is four years later: Adams and Jefferson hated each other. Yet, Adams gave up power to Jefferson. ==== No, some 250 years later, things haven't changed. The US is still a civilised society - despite what Hollywood and American elite leftists would have you believe. Bush Jnr peacefully handed the keys to Obama. Edited September 20, 2016 by August1991 Quote
taxme Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 I have no idea how their elections work. Neither do I, and I don't really care. I have enough problems trying to work and figure out as to how Canadian politics functions. Right now politics in Canada appears to have some mentally challenged problems. Just my opinion, of course. Quote
eyeball Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 Shouldn't "election" be in quotes? My own sense is that democracy and elections are more than a little over-rated and mean less and less in the scheme of things everywhere around the planet. No Matter Who You Vote For The Government Always Gets In Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
August1991 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Posted September 21, 2016 My own sense is that democracy and elections are more than a little over-rated and mean less and less in the scheme of things everywhere around the planet. No Matter Who You Vote For The Government Always Gets In Eyeball, I strongly. strongly disagree. Colgate and Crest may seem the same but imagine a world where it was only Colgate. The mere fact of a choice changes everything. You may say: Trump/Clinton? What's the diff? I see a huge difference: choice. Quote
eyeball Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 What about the all the other diverse myriad other brands out there? All we're offered is two or at best three brands that are all trying to more or less look the same. I see a really meagre bland menu myself. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
TeslaBoy Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 Ye, really America is the hub of universe and we get info about all events in America even prior to our domestic news. Actually it's boring, for I think the elections in America are always a performance. They are not real. We can probably observe some real life and real voting in young democracies. Say in my country, Byelorussia we've recently had really bad parliamentary elections with lots of violations and our president Lukashenko is far from being a democrat ('the last tyrant of Europe' they call him in Brussels) https://www.quora.com/Do-Belarussians-actually-support-Lukashenko/answer/Harry-Bates-4?prompt_topic_bio=1 Who cares? Nobody does. I bet some of you just don't know where 'that Byelorussia' is located actually..... Quote
eyeball Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 Nowhere special, Belarus is on this plain old Earth just like the rest of us. Hi, welcome to the forum. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
-TSS- Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 On another forum someone made a humorous and perhaps accurate comment saying that the lady selling tickets at any Moscow metro-station has as much power and influence on Russia's politics as an average Duma-member outside Putin's inner circle. Quote
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