bush_cheney2004 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, Boges said: What's notable about all this is not that Trump is a racist. He's always been racist. No, what's notable is that Trump is doing exactly what he did in 2016 to great success, and the Democrats (with like minded sycophants in Canada) can't resist the bait, no matter how hard they try. You are not a Democrat strategist, as if that would matter. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Boges said: What's notable about all this is not that Trump is a racist. He's always been racist. What's notable is that he's neutered the GOP to be incapable of standing up to him. Therefore each one of them will have to wear the mantle of Trump's racism. If I was a Dem strategist, The ads targeting every Repub up for re-election in 2020 would write themselves. What do you mean by "standing up to him"? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 The only racists at work are on the Democrat side of things...playing diversity politics and intersectionality games with the masses like good little Brave New Worlders. 2 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Shady said: What do you mean by "standing up to him"? Condemning an obviously racist comment. They certainly would have when he was a candidate. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 President Trump got involved with a pledge of allegiance dust up after a city council foolishly voted to stop the pledge before meetings to be more "inclusive" of non-citizens and illegals. People went nuts and Trump correctly sniffed out the opportunity on Twitter. Quote The St. Louis Park City Council voted unanimously Monday night to reinstate the Pledge of Allegiance, saying the firestorm of criticism over the issue has taken a toll on the staff and kept the city from doing its work. More than 100 people packed the City Council chambers Monday night to protest the council’s June 17 decision to do away with the pledge at most meetings. A similar protest took place last week. ... The council received criticism from across the country for its initial decision. Even President Donald Trump weighed in on the city’s decision — twice. The city said it will return to saying the pledge before regularly scheduled council meetings, twice a month. http://www.startribune.com/100-plus-people-protest-st-louis-park-s-decision-to-nix-the-pledge-of-allegiance/512757582/ Advantage Trump..... 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The only racists at work are on the Democrat side of things...playing diversity politics and intersectionality games with the masses like good little Brave New Worlders. And what of the people telling people that if they don't like something they should "Go Home". Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The only racists at work are on the Democrat side of things...playing diversity politics and intersectionality games with the masses like good little Brave New Worlders. Yep....Bill and Hillary Clinton had no issue with "racism" when it suited their political goals. Hillary Clinton coined the term "super predator" for black males to gain support for the crime bill that Biden helped to write. This led to massive incarcerations in U.S. local, state, and federal prisons. 1 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boges said: And what of the people telling people that if they don't like something they should "Go Home". Can you provide the entire quote or would that ruin your attack on President Trump? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yep....Bill and Hillary Clinton had no issue with "racism" when it suited their political goals. Hillary Clinton coined the term "super predator" for black males to gain support for the crime bill that Biden helped to write. This led to massive incarcerations in U.S. local, state, and federal prisons. Ya'll like hot-sauce? Don't cha? Edited July 16, 2019 by DogOnPorch 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
egghead Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boges said: Against who? White people? Awwww muffin are you triggered? Why not, racist comes in many forms and colors. Did you watch "green book"? Only the dumb and dumber in the left think this movie is all about the racial (a.k.a black) discrimination in the 30's, and give it the best picture Edited July 16, 2019 by egghead Quote
Boges Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, egghead said: Why not, racist comes in many forms and colors. Did you watch "green book"? Only the dumb and dumber in the left think this movie is all about the racial (a.k.a black) discrimination in the 30's, and gives it the best picture That movie wasn't set in the 30's. Many, on the left, had problems with that movie. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 President Trump and Congress reversed the "racist" Biden/Clinton crime bill from 1994: Quote Trump Starts to Fix Clinton’s Catastrophic Crime Bill Mess Nearly 25 years ago, President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Clinton led a robust campaign for tougher sentencing laws that would become the 1994 crime bill. At the time, the NAACP called it a “crime against the American people.” The next quarter century would prove the NAACP right. “Bill Clinton presided over the largest increase in federal and state prison inmates of any president in American history,” human rights advocate Michelle Alexander reminded Hillary Clinton supporters in 2016. “By the end of Clinton’s presidency, more than half of working-age African-American men in many large urban areas were saddled with criminal records and subject to legalized discrimination in employment, housing, access to education, and basic public benefits—relegated to a permanent second-class status eerily reminiscent of Jim Crow,” said Alexander, who wrote a book on the subject, The New Jim Crow. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/trump-starts-to-fix-the-criminal-justice-system-the-clintons-broke/ 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Boges said: Condemning an obviously racist comment. They certainly would have when he was a candidate. I'll do the Sargon of Akkad number and ask: how was his tweet racist, exactly? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I'll do the Sargon of Akkad number and ask: how was his tweet racist, exactly? Ahhh the argument that he never actually mentioned race in his tweet. The implication is obvious. And the idea that people's country of origin have to be perfect in order from them to comment about their current country of citizenship is appalling, if not racist. Certainly a standard Trump never help himself too when he devised his MAGA Cult. Regardless, what nation should 3 of the "Squad" go back to? They were born in America. So if not racist/bigoted, it's at the very least ignorant. Edited July 16, 2019 by Boges Quote
egghead Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, Boges said: That movie wasn't set in the 30's. Many, on the left, had problems with that movie. my bad, it was the 60's. I was thinking something else while I was typing it. Ya, at first, they had the problem with the N word. Then, they found out what the movie was showing. Anyway, the left should learn something from this movie and stop playing the racist card. 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 Trump is already in campaign mode while the Democrats try to figure out who can even beat him, before they beat themselves. Trump is getting his base into fighting shape, and they will stridently support him no matter what. The Democrats have no such candidate or devotion. Oh, and Trump has raised more than $100 million already ($30 million in just two days)...Dems...not so much. Even Canada is ramping up for all Trump all the time, providing more coverage than for the October federal election....because the U.S. election gets more clicks and eyeballs. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, Boges said: Ahhh the argument that he never actually mentioned race in his tweet. The implication is obvious. And the idea that people's country of origin have to be perfect in order from them to comment about their current country of citizenship is appalling, if not racist. Certainly a standard Trump never help himself too when he devised his MAGA Cult. Regardless, what nation should 3 of the "Squad" go back to? They were born in America. So if not racist/bigoted, it's at the very least ignorant. Again...would posting Trump's tweet verbatim ruin your attack on him? Or is it easier to call him names if folks don't see exactly what was said??...much like Trump hates all Mexicans...right? You WANT to see racism. You were TOLD there was racism...therefore.... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Again...would posting Trump's tweet verbatim ruin your attack on him? Or is it easier to call him names if folks don't see exactly what was said??...much like Trump hates all Mexicans...right? You WANT to see racism. You were TOLD there was racism...therefore.... No, actually I can usually disregard Trumps ravings as "Par for the Course". I think this sentiment that minority women that don't support him should "Leave" takes the level of discourse up a notch. It'll be interesting to see how he keeps upping the ante with a year left before he knows who his opponent will be. Quote
egghead Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump is already in campaign mode while the Democrats try to figure out who can even beat him, before they beat themselves. Trump is getting his base into fighting shape, and they will stridently support him no matter what. The Democrats have no such candidate or devotion. Oh, and Trump has raised more than $100 million already ($30 million in just two days)...Dems...not so much. Even Canada is ramping up for all Trump all the time, providing more coverage than for the October federal election....because the U.S. election gets more clicks and eyeballs. You don't know. we have more Trump haters than JT lovers in Canada The truth is that JT needs big bad trump to help him getting re-elected. 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Boges said: No, actually I can usually disregard Trumps ravings as "Par for the Course". I think this sentiment that minority women that don't support him should "Leave" takes the level of discourse up a notch. It'll be interesting to see how he keeps upping the ante with a year left before he knows who his opponent will be. Some of Trump's biggest supporters are women of colour...to use a racist term the Democrats still love. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Some of Trump's biggest supporters are women of colour...to use a racist term the Democrats still love. The key word is "some". Can you name all five of them? Just like "some think the idea that identifying race is actually racist. I don't see race!!!! Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Boges said: The key word is "some". Can you name all five of them? Just like "some think the idea that identifying race is actually racist. I don't see race!!!! If there are only five, what are you worried about? The Democrats will sweep to power in 2020 under the benevolence of one of the 20+ mad hatters that want to 'take down Trump' while calling half the nation Nazis. Trump 2020...smell it. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Shady Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Boges said: Condemning an obviously racist comment. They certainly would have when he was a candidate. Some have condemned his comments. But you know that condemning comments doesn't mean he can't make more similar comments right? And that condemning him doesn't remove him from office right? Do Republicans have to respond to every single comment he makes? Edited July 16, 2019 by Shady Quote
Boges Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: If there are only five, what are you worried about? The Democrats will sweep to power in 2020 under the benevolence of one of the 20+ mad hatters that want to 'take down Trump' while calling half the nation Nazis. Trump 2020...smell it. I would actually think that's more likely than not. Trump won by the narrowest of margins in a handful of swing states in the face of outright incompetence and complacency by Hilary and Co. Not to mention the assist from Russia. If Dems can't put their differences aside an come out in droves to vote AGAINST Trump, then they deserve him. I'm hear to debate people who actually don't think his comments are racist. Quote
Boges Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Shady said: Some have condemned his comments. But you know that condemning comments doesn't mean he can't make more similar comments right? And that condemning him doesn't remove him from office right? Do Republicans have to respond to every single comment he makes? No, and in Canada we see that tactic in full force by JT in regards to Abortion or Conversion Therapy. Because some in the CPC ranks aren't outright opposed to it, the argument is being made that Sheer must support those things. A leader having to answer for everyone in their party, as opposed to mostly crickets when a party's leader says something awful is different though. If I was a Dem, I'd be making hay from it. And that's the argument for impeachment. Sure the GOP in the Senate won't convict, but at least they'd be on record for supporting the treasonous behaviour that will be presented. Edited July 16, 2019 by Boges Quote
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