blueblood Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: The Russian mafia that Trump owes the 4.5 billion to have kept him reined in very well so far. And if he tries to assert U.S. independence, we all get to watch his golden showers videos. Thanks, Trump supporters! And here we go with the conspiracy theories... trump does what trump wants, GOP brass learned that lesson. Putin is taking a wait and see approach with trump to size him up as is trump with putin. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 President Trump will have to spend some time cleaning up the big foreign policy mess that President Obama is leaving him, and that includes Putin/Russia. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
BubberMiley Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, blueblood said: And here we go with the conspiracy theories... trump does what trump wants, GOP brass learned that lesson. Putin is taking a wait and see approach with trump to size him up as is trump with putin. What's the conspiracy theory? Oh, you mean that dark Saudi forces were telling her what to do because they donated to her charity. Trump will do what Putin wants or Trump will have to endure everyone watching him get peed on. And his empire will fall apart. If it were not true, he could release his tax returns and prove it. But he won't do that because then his very, very gullible supporters would look particularly delusional as they still tried to deny everything. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
betsy Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Trump to donate hotel's profit from foreign government, to the American Treasury! Edited January 11, 2017 by betsy Quote
blueblood Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: What's the conspiracy theory? Oh, you mean that dark Saudi forces were telling her what to do because they donated to her charity. Trump will do what Putin wants or Trump will have to endure everyone watching him get peed on. And his empire will fall apart. If it were not true, he could release his tax returns and prove it. But he won't do that because then his very, very gullible supporters would look particularly delusional as they still tried to deny everything. As bc2004 says not much charity work got done in Haiti and a lot of influence was bought. Trump endured the tape of the billy bush fiasco, how do you know the golden showers tape exists? Even if it does, trump has the stones to hit back at putin hard as trump does what he wants. Obamas hitting back was "knock it off". If I were trump I wouldn't release my tax returns either as I'd be setting myself up for leftists attacking over tax deductions, income, and etc. But to suggest someone worth 4.5 billion before being the president is a puppet is preposterous. People with that many influence people, not be influenced. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
BubberMiley Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, blueblood said: As bc2004 says not much charity work got done in Haiti and a lot of influence was bought. Trump endured the tape of the billy bush fiasco, how do you know the golden showers tape exists? Even if it does, trump has the stones to hit back at putin hard as trump does what he wants. Obamas hitting back was "knock it off". If I were trump I wouldn't release my tax returns either as I'd be setting myself up for leftists attacking over tax deductions, income, and etc. But to suggest someone worth 4.5 billion before being the president is a puppet is preposterous. People with that many influence people, not be influenced. He's not worth 4,5 billion. That's what he owes to the Russian mafia. Get your facts straight. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
blueblood Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: He's not worth 4,5 billion. That's what he owes to the Russian mafia. Get your facts straight. I provided documentation that he's worth 4.5 billion, please post something that says he owes the Russian mafia 4.5 billion. my facts are straight Edited January 11, 2017 by blueblood Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
?Impact Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, blueblood said: I provided documentation that he's worth 4.5 billion, please post something that says he owes the Russian mafia 4.5 billion. my facts are straight I don't think the Russian mafia is required to file its loan portfolio with the US regulatory agencies. Trump's debt inside the US however are at least $1.5 billion, five times what he claimed. Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 50 minutes ago, blueblood said: I provided documentation that he's worth 4.5 billion, please post something that says he owes the Russian mafia 4.5 billion. my facts are straight Where did you provide that documentation? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
blueblood Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Where did you provide that documentation? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump earlier on. However in full and frank disclosure forbes for January has him estimated 3.7 billion however the Wikipedia article cites a Forbes article from November. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
blueblood Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 35 minutes ago, ?Impact said: I don't think the Russian mafia is required to file its loan portfolio with the US regulatory agencies. Trump's debt inside the US however are at least $1.5 billion, five times what he claimed. Bubbermiley was saying that trump is indebted his net worth to the Russian mob and won't prove it. Hmm... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
BubberMiley Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, blueblood said: Bubbermiley was saying that trump is indebted his net worth to the Russian mob and won't prove it. Hmm... If he would release his tax returns, perhaps he could prove I'm wrong. Until then, his presidency will be hampered by the speculation of what he's hiding. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
OftenWrong Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: If he would release his tax returns, perhaps he could prove I'm wrong. Until then, his presidency will be hampered by the speculation of what he's hiding. Endless speculation. Donald Trump sure is fascinating... Quote
Wilber Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, blueblood said: Bubbermiley was saying that trump is indebted his net worth to the Russian mob and won't prove it. Hmm... Well if you are talking about a guy who won't show his tax returns, won't separate himself from his businesses which keep all their dealings secret, I guess Bubbermilley doesn't have to prove anything either. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 Tax returns report personal income, not wealth or total net worth. Trump's businesses are not publicly held. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 4 hours ago, blueblood said: I've answered the question a lot. The Russians hack all day every day. We don't know who hacked podestas computer. We don't? Even Trump has admitted it was the Russians now. Time for you to go and check out the new Trump talking points. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Wilber Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Tax returns report personal income, not wealth or total net worth. Trump's businesses are not publicly held. So? I'm not saying he is doing anything illegal but he makes up crap about other people all the time. People who do divulge their income and assets. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Argus Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, blueblood said: Enough Americans didn't care to see his tax returns, however enough Americans didn't approve of the Clinton foundation kept afloat by dark money from Saudi Arabia. The last poll I recall hearing said 85% of Americans, including 62% of Republicans, wanted to see his tax returns. You got anything else? You got any information that the Clinton Foundation had any particular desperate need for Saudi money? Edited January 12, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 30 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: If he would release his tax returns, perhaps he could prove I'm wrong. Until then, his presidency will be hampered by the speculation of what he's hiding. I'm wondering if the Chinese might have that information. I mean, if I was them I definitely would have spent the last many months hacking into Trump's own server and all his company's internal correspondence and documentation to get evidence they could use to blackmail him if he starts a trade war. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Argus said: The last poll I recall hearing said 85% of Americans, including 62% of Republicans, wanted to see his tax returns. You got anything else? You got any information that the Clinton Foundation had any particular desperate need for Saudi money? Seems that some Canadians want to see Trump's tax returns too....so what ? Tax filings are private data. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
blueblood Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 50 minutes ago, Argus said: We don't? Even Trump has admitted it was the Russians now. Time for you to go and check out the new Trump talking points. Trump is saying Russians are hacking in general. We don't know who did podestas emails as assange said it wasn't Russians and won't burn his source. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 1 minute ago, blueblood said: Trump is saying Russians are hacking in general. We don't know who did podestas emails as assange said it wasn't Russians and won't burn his source. Right...everybody is hacking. Team Obama is hacking....right now. May the best hackers win. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Right...everybody is hacking. Team Obama is hacking....right now. May the best hackers win. They already have. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
blueblood Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 55 minutes ago, Argus said: The last poll I recall hearing said 85% of Americans, including 62% of Republicans, wanted to see his tax returns. You got anything else? You got any information that the Clinton Foundation had any particular desperate need for Saudi money? I have the us election results. No disclosure of his tax returns was a non issue Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Wilber said: They already have. I sure hope so....hacking is serious business and a core competency of any intelligence gathering organization. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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