bush_cheney2004 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: There are plenty of real ones that big if that's the game plan. Hey, we don't know if Trump also paid for big and naturals ! He certainly can afford both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Hey, we don't know if Trump also paid for big and naturals ! He certainly can afford both. True that...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Anti-Americanism is just MORE identity politics...designed to split us and isolate. True...but there is no reason to get so upset, unless that is part of the triggered act. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: True...but there is no reason to get so upset, unless that is part of the triggered act. Part of the Liberal brainwashing over the years. I have so-called friends who hate Americans for no reason but need them to pass through each year on the way to Alaska or go out of business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: ??? Americans of all political stripes have gun rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. There would be a much bigger bloodbath if gun rights were taken away. Really....can you eloborate....cause as i see now your gun rights are not working to well.....so you are saying that if your gun rights were taken away .....Americans would be even more violent than they are now...face plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Part of the Liberal brainwashing over the years. I have so-called friends who hate Americans for no reason but need them to pass through each year on the way to Alaska or go out of business. Hey...it's all good. Most Americans and Canadians are smart enough to maneuver around the easily triggered souls. These types didn't day boo when Obama's Chicago was mowing down far more people on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kerfuffle said: Really....can you eloborate....cause as i see now your gun rights are not working to well.....so you are saying that if your gun rights were taken away .....Americans would be even more violent than they are now...face plant. You just don't GET the 2nd Amendment. It's to stop folks like you from taking away other folks' guns. Edited February 15, 2018 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Hey...it's all good. Most Americans and Canadians are smart enough to maneuver around the easily triggered souls. These types didn't day boo when Obama's Chicago was mowing down far more people on a regular basis. It's like the Battle of Ia Drang in Chicago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, Kerfuffle said: Really....can you eloborate....cause as i see now your gun rights are not working to well.....so you are saying that if your gun rights were taken away .....Americans would be even more violent than they are now...face plant. Yep....that's what I be saying...Civil War 2.0 Homicide rates in the U.S. are at a 30 year low. https://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/guns-deaths-a-problem-for-the-rest-of-the-world-not-usa/#axzz578LBg4xQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Wife ? Kids ? Politics? So you concede it looks bad. Edited February 15, 2018 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Boges said: So you concede it looks bad. Looking bad got Trump elected President of the United States. Looking bad is not a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yep....that's what I be saying...Civil War 2.0 Homicide rates in the U.S. are at a 30 year low. https://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/guns-deaths-a-problem-for-the-rest-of-the-world-not-usa/#axzz578LBg4xQ Democrat controlled megalopolises seem to buck the trend...odd. You'd think it would be perfect with all that Democrat control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Looking bad got Trump elected President of the United States. Looking bad is not a crime. Then he should have no shame. But he has a lot of shame. Exhibit A) His hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: You just don't GET the 2nd Amendment. It's to stop folks like you from taking away other folks' guns. At the time that the Second Amendment was ratified, the United States had just successfully separated from Great Britain and was in the precariously weak position of being a brand new country. There was the risk of attempted reconquest by the British (not likely, but still a risk), there were the unsecured frontiers and indigenous Native Americans who at times aggressively resisted against the violent expansionism of white settlers. Plantation owners were wary of the risk of slave rebellions. Lawlessness existed in the countryside with little in the form of law enforcement. There were many perceived dangers in post-colonial American life that could be redressed with a shooting iron. Granted, the origin of many of these perceived dangers were clearly self-inflicted by the reckless and short-sighted foolishness of settlers, the barbarous institution of slavery, the agenda of a wealthy slave owning class of politicians, and a bad tendency of American men to get caught up in the blindingly stupid gentleman’s ritual of duels with pistols. The Second Amendment, in its original iteration, was established so that the nation could defend itself from the perils of post-colonial America and its people could enjoy a passing sense of security well into the future. That is why the second Amendment was installed in the constitution.....not so every gun loving freak can own one in 2018 History lesson over for the paronoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kerfuffle said: At the time that the Second Amendment was ratified, the United States had just successfully separated from Great Britain and was in the precariously weak position of being a brand new country. There was the risk of attempted reconquest by the British (not likely, but still a risk), there were the unsecured frontiers and indigenous Native Americans who at times aggressively resisted against the violent expansionism of white settlers. Plantation owners were wary of the risk of slave rebellions. Lawlessness existed in the countryside with little in the form of law enforcement. There were many perceived dangers in post-colonial American life that could be redressed with a shooting iron. Granted, the origin of many of these perceived dangers were clearly self-inflicted by the reckless and short-sighted foolishness of settlers, the barbarous institution of slavery, the agenda of a wealthy slave owning class of politicians, and a bad tendency of American men to get caught up in the blindingly stupid gentleman’s ritual of duels with pistols. The Second Amendment, in its original iteration, was established so that the nation could defend itself from the perils of post-colonial America and its people could enjoy a passing sense of security well into the future. That is why the second Amendment was installed in the constitution.....not so every gun loving freak can own one in 2018 History lesson over for the paronoid That's nice. It is STILL to stop folks like you from taking away the average citizen's ability to protect him/herself from his/her own government. I'm sure you just think of the good points of banning all weapons for average citizens...but there is also a downside. Edited February 15, 2018 by DogOnPorch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) And the violence moves...Santana and Watts have been replaced with Reseda and other Valley communities. http://maps.latimes.com/crime/ Edited February 15, 2018 by DogOnPorch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: That's nice. It is STILL to stop folks like you from taking away the average citizen's ability to protect himself from his/her own government. I'm sure you just think of the good points of banning all weapons for average citizens...but there is also a downside. Think about it....whats your pea shooter going to do to protect yourself from tanks and other government arms...bang bang your dead.....and are you that paranoid that your government is going to turn on you.....oh boy face plant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, Kerfuffle said: Think about it....whats your pea shooter going to do to protect yourself from tanks and other government arms...bang bang your dead.....and are you that paranoid that your government is going to turn on you.....oh boy face plant Sort of like the US Revolution... Like I mentioned, you don't get the 2nd Amendment. One can not expect the Government to always be benign and friendly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, Boges said: Exhibit A) His hair. His hair is actually what makes him strong- like the biblical Samson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Sort of like the US Revolution... Like I mentioned, you don't get the 2nd Amendment. One can not expect the Government to always be benign and friendly. Ok if you say so......but if i were you id throw your 6 shooter away and break open your piggy bank and buy the best WW2 army surplus tank you can find....result bang bang your dead When are you confederates gonna realize you lost.... Edited February 15, 2018 by Kerfuffle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Kerfuffle said: Ok if you say so......but if i were you id throw your 6 shooter away and break open your piggy bank and buy the best WW2 army surplus tank you can find....result bang bang your dead During the US Revolution, regular citizens armed themselves and took-on the world's superpower of the time. Sometimes one must fight. Sorry to see you've already surrendered if need be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: During the US Revolution, regular citizens armed themselves and took-on the world's superpower of the time. Sometimes one must fight. Sorry to see you've already surrendered if need be. Yes...loyalist dogs fled to Canada ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Yes...loyalist dogs fled to Canada ! Generally well fought war with few atrocities as they go. Honors of War and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: During the US Revolution, regular citizens armed themselves and took-on the world's superpower of the time. Sometimes one must fight. Sorry to see you've already surrendered if need be. if you think your handguns could do to today's government army as they did in revolution war id say you took to many hits of acid....by the way....here it comes.....you still lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kerfuffle said: When are you confederates gonna realize you lost.... Union, suh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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