taxme Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The U.S. already has a well defined path to citizenship...has worked for many millions of people. DACA was illegal politics...courtesy of Obama. Illegals don't care about the legal "right thing"...they just want what they want. It's a border game played by millions of people. Yeah...we call that "open borders"....a nationalist's nightmare. DACA "dreamers" should not get priority or be rewarded for illegal immigration ahead of those who emigrate legally. All illegals must be deported tout suite to send a clear message to the rest of the world that they will not be allowed to just walk right on in and hope and try to get to stay. It is abuse of our immigration laws and it is criminal act to be entering Canada or America illegally. Already those criminal illegals have shown that they don't care about our immigration laws or the law. Not a very good start for those illegals now is it? If they are willing to break the law by entering a country illegally and maybe get to stay here than what they have been pretty much shown and told is that it is alright to break other laws if you need too. Hey, you might get away with it with no consequences. Open borders is a countries worse nightmare. Canada is starting to look like a nightmare. Just saying. Quote
taxme Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Boges said: If you don't see the difference between DACA and people streaming across the border to take people's job, Oh well. Seems DACA will eventually get done. The optics of deporting people who know no other country is just too bad, especially in a mid-term year. Do you know the difference between the words legal and illegal? Just asking? Quote
Boges Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, taxme said: Do you know the difference between the words legal and illegal? Just asking? You mean like how DACA will be legal by the end of February? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Democrats are getting hammered for their budget fumble...from all sides. Illegals can't vote...legally. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 29 minutes ago, taxme said: I guess for the year 2018 there may be none deported then by the looks of that chart. If you look closely at the chart, the only significant variable over time is failed refugee claims. I suspect this has far more to do with people hopping on the refugee bandwagon after crisis, even though they may be far removed from the trouble. Quote
Boges Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Democrats are getting hammered for their budget fumble...from all sides. Illegals can't vote...legally. Cite Quote
taxme Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Democrats are getting hammered for their budget fumble...from all sides. Illegals can't vote...legally. But those illegals are now allowed to get a drivers licences in California where the stunned and stupid liberal dumbocrat Jerry Brown's government will allow those illegals that have a DL to be able to vote. What? An illegal can vote now? Whatever happened to the good old days when California was a state that produced family shows and people like Annette Funicello and the real Walt Disney world that we all use to enjoy and watch on TV? Now all California seems to be is nothing more than a state full of criminal illegals and we all now get to only hear about the poor Mexican and other illegals sob stories. I guess that Americans can thank the dumbocrats for the bloody immigration mess that plagues not only California today but the rest of America, and Canada also because Canada is now getting their illegals. Why have the decent and moral family oriented American and Canadian people have allowed our countries to get into this illegal immigration mess? When will they start to pay attention to this immigration crises that is starting to destroy both of our countries? It is shocking as to what is happening. Quote
taxme Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, ?Impact said: If you look closely at the chart, the only significant variable over time is failed refugee claims. I suspect this has far more to do with people hopping on the refugee bandwagon after crisis, even though they may be far removed from the trouble. I would like to hear more from our government as to how many are being deported from Canada every year and how many are allowed to stay? Those are the statistics that I want to see. Canada has told the rest of the world to pretty much come on down, you are the next lucky contestants to get to play the refugee immigration for stay game. Quote
Boges Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) You'd think moral and family orientated people wouldn't have elected people that affairs with porn stars when their wife is pregnant. Then get their lawyer to pay them off a decade later. Edited January 22, 2018 by Boges Quote
Boges Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, taxme said: I would like to hear more from our government as to how many are being deported from Canada every year and how many are allowed to stay? Those are the statistics that I want to see. Canada has told the rest of the world to pretty much come on down, you are the next lucky contestants to get to play the refugee immigration for stay game. Except in Canada you can't really cross a land border everyone has to come through a plane or a boat. Unless they're escaping the US. Canada is uniquely isolated that way. Quote
?Impact Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Boges said: Except in Canada you can't really cross a land border everyone has to come through a plane or a boat. Unless they're escaping the US. Canada is uniquely isolated that way. Not quite unique. New Zealand and Australia for example have no land borders. Many countries have a single land border, like Portugal and Denmark; several are on divided islands Haiti/DR, Ireland/UK, etc. Quote
taxme Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Boges said: You'd think moral and family orientated people wouldn't have elected people that affairs with porn stars when their wife is pregnant. Then get their lawyer to pay them off a decade later. Who says that moral and family oriented people are voting for those kinds of perverts? No doubt the people who would vote for those porn stars are people out of touch with reality, and are a bunch of perverts themselves. I think that all politicians should be told to expose all of their skeletons in their closets for the electorate to hear and know about. That way we would know as to who we are voting for. That way that person would not be able to be bribed if someone got elected by the elite or by other people who know that person, and ruin their political careers. All politicians should be arrested and jailed if found to have been lying to we the sheeple. That would put an end to corruption and bribery and lying in we the sheeples government. Just kidding. I know that will never happen. Quote
?Impact Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, taxme said: I think that all politicians should be told to expose all of their skeletons in their closets for the electorate to hear and know about. Q: How long does it take Donald Trump to screw in a light bulb? A: We don't know, because anything he screws he pays $130,000 to keep quiet. Quote
taxme Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, Boges said: Except in Canada you can't really cross a land border everyone has to come through a plane or a boat. Unless they're escaping the US. Canada is uniquely isolated that way. Well, it's for sure that Canada is never going to build a border wall. So, the illegals will still keep on coming and get to stay here for however long it takes for them to be able to stay here, if at all, and all at the expense of the taxpayer's bank account. Canada can be uniquely stupid in a lot of ways. Aw well. Quote
taxme Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Q: How long does it take Donald Trump to screw in a light bulb? A: We don't know, because anything he screws he pays $130,000 to keep quiet. Q: How long does it take Bill Clinton to screw in a light bulb? A: We don't know either and never will because anything he screws is also paid off. Gezus, so what is your point here? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boges said: Cite Funny...you can't seem to use America's Google now ? Quote ...Liberal activists are furious with Democratic senators after most of them agreed to reopen the federal government without a firm path to shielding young immigrants from deportation. As the third day of the shutdown dawned, liberal advocates and immigration groups fired off a joint statement blasting as "unacceptable" Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's (R-Ky.) offer to merely hold a vote on immigration — with no promises for action from the House or White House — in exchange for Democratic votes to reopen the government. But three hours later, Democratic senators agreed to just those terms — sparking anger on the left. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/22/government-shutdown-deal-liberals-angry-357268 https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/01/22/even-worse-negotiator-trump-progressives-slam-schumer-caving-gop-trumpshutdown https://ijr.com/the-declaration/2018/01/1053459-the-government-is-reopening-and-media-reactions-reveal-how-angry-they-are-at-democrats/ Quote Why Democrats Caved It’s what you do when you’ve lost. ...Democrats were not able to secure an immigration deal through the three-day shutdown, only a commitment to a future process that could produce such legislation. They also were not able to secure any commitment that House Republicans would take up the fruits of their labor. And yet cloture was invoked easily, 81 to 18, with only 16 of 49 Democrats voting nay. The rage from activists was swift and unsparing. ...As each side made their arguments in recent days, Republicans had the more straightforward one—Democrats were responsible for the shutdown because they filibustered a funding bill in order to secure something else. A DACA fix is popular; shutting down the government over one is much less so, especially in many of the states Senate Democrats are trying to hold in November. The polling was beginning to gravitate in Republicans’ favor. “I hear our numbers are dropping like a rock,” Democratic Rep. Louise Slaughter of New York told Bloomberg on Monday. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/democrats-caved-on-the-government-shutdown.html Edited January 22, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
OftenWrong Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, Boges said: You'd think moral and family orientated people wouldn't have elected people that affairs with porn stars when their wife is pregnant. Then get their lawyer to pay them off a decade later. Is that you, Omni? Quote
OftenWrong Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Funny...you can't seem to use America's Google now ? https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/01/22/even-worse-negotiator-trump-progressives-slam-schumer-caving-gop-trumpshutdown https://ijr.com/the-declaration/2018/01/1053459-the-government-is-reopening-and-media-reactions-reveal-how-angry-they-are-at-democrats/ https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/democrats-caved-on-the-government-shutdown.html IE. They realized they were about to cut off their noses to spite their face. #TrumpWinsAgain Quote
?Impact Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: America's Google Sergey Brin was a Russian immigrant. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: IE. They realized they were about to cut off their noses to spite their face. #TrumpWinsAgain Agreed...the Democrats (and Republicans) up for 2018 re-election do not want to be on the wrong side of another DACA murderer/felon that would be used in campaign ads. Voters do not send representatives to Washington to stop the federal government for illegals. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Sergey Brin was a Russian immigrant. Like many legal immigrants who realize great success in America. That's where Canadian emigres also go for much better access to capital and technology. Larry Page is not Russian. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Like many legal immigrants who realize great success in America. Yes, he emigrated as a child refugee and created great success for America. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, ?Impact said: Yes, he emigrated as a child refugee and created great success for America. I will take his words over yours: Quote At an interview in October 2000, Brin said, "I know the hard times that my parents went through there and am very thankful that I was brought to the States."[14] In 2017, Brin later recalled: "I came here to the US at age six with my family from the Soviet Union, which was at that time the greatest enemy the US had... It was a dire period, the cold war, as some people remember it. It was under the threat of nuclear annihilation. And even then the US had the courage to take me and my family in as refugees."[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin Please enjoy another day of American platforms...including this forum's engine, database, and hosting. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
OftenWrong Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Agreed...the Democrats (and Republicans) up for 2018 re-election do not want to be on the wrong side of another DACA murderer/felon that would be used in campaign ads. Yes and by the very act of "fixing" the problem (getting back to work...) the Dems lose. Having to cooperate with President Trump is a bitter pill to swallow this far down the road. #DoubleTrumped Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, OftenWrong said: Yes and by the very act of "fixing" the problem (getting back to work...) the Dems lose. Having to cooperate with President Trump is a bitter pill to swallow this far down the road. #DoubleTrumped The Democrat progressives thought they could force a DACA fix by tying it to a funding bill. Last year, a DACA bill never even got a vote in the House. DACA is political poison. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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