Omni Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 I wonder if Trump will get as cozy a welcome in Israel, especially after he has so graciously contributed to the arms race in the region. At least it seems the cooler heads in that country have convinced him to leave the US embassy where it is. 1 Quote
Hal 9000 Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 I would be willing to bet that the SA deal had some stipulations toward the treatment of Israel. Trump deals usually have many facets and ties attached, that's why there are multi deals involved with the signing of the arms deal. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Omni Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 And then there is the Israeli source intel that Trump reportedly leaked to the Russians. Netanyahu may have a question or two about that. 1 Quote
Hal 9000 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 ^^So? What do you think, Netanyahu is gonna play hardball with Trump - I seriously doubt it? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Omni Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: ^^So? What do you think, Netanyahu is gonna play hardball with Trump - I seriously doubt it? Not where you or I will be able to see it. And of course that is the Mossad's job. 1 Quote
-TSS- Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 He is clearly not in his comfort-zone when talking about Middle-East politics. On the other hand, it doesnt matter; the people who voted for him dont care what his policies are regarding the Middle-East. Quote
Argus Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 3 hours ago, -TSS- said: He is clearly not in his comfort-zone when talking about Middle-East politics. On the other hand, it doesnt matter; the people who voted for him dont care what his policies are regarding the Middle-East. I dunno. His sudden love affair with the Saudis probably has a lot of those who voted for him on the basis of his attacks on Muslims staring with dropped jaws. "Hey, how can we confront Muslim terrorism when our oh so precious politically correct president can't even use the term!?" Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
CITIZEN_2015 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) Support for stinky Saudi Regime!!! Shame on America and shame on Americans!! It is a total disgrace for every American when their president visits the country with a despotic corrupt regime who is the worst violator of human rights in the world and behind the 9-11 attacks on the US and praises that country and regime and signs a huge military contract to sell arms and attacks the country (Iran) who just held a democratic presidential election in which people voted and decided to reject extremism and terrorism. As unfair as that election may have been (many candidates vetoed out by an unelected assembly of unpopular clergy) though the will of the people counted at the end. Praising a country like stinky Saudi regime where women are not allowed to vote and drive and are covered head to toe and are banned from any kind of association with opposite sex and then attacking a country which just voted extremists out and with mixed crowd of men and women dancing on streets of main cities together celebrating and wanting to bring change through ballet boxes rather than civil war and violence (the Arab way to bring about change like in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq) show how stupid and biased and political novice this idiot president of United States of America is to visit and praise a country where ballet boxes have no meaning at all and will of people does not count even one bit and women are deprived from their very basic human rights and praise the despotic regime!!!. As Iranian extremists always used to say maybe America with an idiot like Trump as its elected president deserves to be called the GREAT SATAN or where I may call it the land of MORONS who elected another moron as its president. Iranians did a much better job in electing a moderate president than Americans did a few months ago and showed more political maturity than Americans did. And finally Saudi Arabia stinks and its regime stinks much more and anybody who praises them or supports them stinks too. https://theintercept.com/2017/05/21/landslide-win-irans-reformists-doesnt-fit-trumps-script-ignores/ Edited May 22, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote
Omni Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 So Trump opens mouth and inserts foot yet again: In response to a question from press in Jerusalem regarding the intelligence he leaked while visiting with the Russians in the WH, he responded by saying he never said anything about Israel. Problem is, the questioner never mentioned Israel either. Oops, another cat out of the bag. 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 President Trump is having a great trip so far. Maybe he will kiss the Pope's ring. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 Well we know what he kissed a lot of in Riyadh. 1 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: President Trump is having a great trip so far. Maybe he will kiss the Pope's ring. Well he kissed the Saudi's so call King's ass so I wouldn't be surprised. 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 Just now, CITIZEN_2015 said: Well he kissed the Saudi's so call King's ass so I wouldn't be surprised. If he does, the world will be watching. Trump is far more important to the world than Trudeau taking selfies. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 Mr. Drain the Swamp promised he would be hiring no lobbyists for his new government, and even signed an order to that effect. Then he went ahead and hired lobbyists anyway, and in the same areas they had lobbied. To do this he gave them waivers. The Office of Government Ethics sent a request to the White House asking how many waivers they'd granted, to whom, and why, and asking for disclosure on the individuals business interests to see if there was a conflict of interest. This is fairly routine, except of course, now we have Mr. Drain the Swamp in power, and unlike previous administrations he refused to provide that information. What business interests the former lobbyists have and whether there's a conflict of interest is apparently not something they want the OGE looking into - for some reason. Timothy Clark, for example—formerly a lobbyist for the drug-makers trade association PhRMA—is the White House liaison to the Department of Health and Human Services. Michael Catanzaro, a former oil industry lobbyist, heads up the energy issues portfolio at the National Economic Council. Byron Anderson, a former lobbyist for the financial services industry, is at the Department of Labor, where he previously lobbied against a rule intended to protect retirement savers from excessive fees. Doesn't seem to be a whole lot of drainage going on here. Far from it. The swamp seems to be getting deeper and murkier. https://qz.com/988718/donald-trump-is-blocking-an-effort-by-the-office-of-government-ethics-to-disclose-conflict-of-interest-waivers-for-the-lobbyists-in-his-government/ Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
CITIZEN_2015 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: If he does, the world will be watching. Trump is far more important to the world than Trudeau taking selfies. Wake up man he did already. He kissed Saudi asses on his visit on Saturday by praising the most despotic regime and violator of human's and women's rights in the world by saying that they stand against extremism and terrorism not a word about the fact that Saudi's were behind the 9-11 attack. And yes the world watched that he brought disgrace to America and Americans. So wake up and smell the coffee there is NO "If" about it. Edited May 22, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 Just now, CITIZEN_2015 said: Wake up man he did already. He kissed Saudi asses on his visit on Saturday by praising the most despotic regime and violator of human's and women's rights in the world by saying that they stand against extremism and terrorism not a word about the fact that Saudi's were behind the 9-11 attack. So wake up and smell the coffee there is NO "If" about it. Nonsense....the Saudis have been U.S. allies since WW2 regardless of terror attacks. Same goes for terror attacks from Canada (e.g. Millennium Bomber). Wake up and smell the....real oil (not cooked bitumen). 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) Yes they have been US stooges for decades no doubt about that. The US keep the corrupt regime in power in exchange for secure oil. But If Saudi Arabia is an ally of United States with their stinky nature and clear record on violation of human rights and women's right then SHAME on America which their president goes to this hellhole shithole and in public while the world is watching kisses the asses of the corrupt King and his stinky gang for the damn oil. Edited May 22, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Yes they have been US stooges for decades no doubt about that. The US keep the corrupt regime in power in exchange for oil. But If Saudi Arabia is an ally of United States with their stinky nature and clear record on violation of human rights and women's right then SHAME on America which their president goes to this hellhole shithole and in public while the world is watching kisses the asses of the corrupt King and his stinky gang for the damn oil. So ? That has been the foreign policy of every American president since FDR. Americans spent a lot of money to develop bitumen production in stinky Canadian hellholes too. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 Watch that sour gas. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) It shows the stupidity of the post. I don't even have to rebuff when someone compare Canada a free democratic progressive advanced country which has been always a pioneer of human rights with a shithole like Saudi Arabia where hell is better than this Sheikdom to live in. Edited May 22, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: It shows the stupidity of the post. I don't even have to rebuff when someone compare Canada a free democratic progressive advanced country with a shithole like Saudi Arabia where hell is better than its Kingdom to live in. It's a fact, though. Saudi-US relations go back further than the terrorism. America did spend tons of bucks on various projects in Canada. Many if not most major airports in Western Canada, for example, have some connection to Lend Lease or the Alaska Highway in their creation. Edited May 22, 2017 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 Just now, CITIZEN_2015 said: It shows the stupidity of the post. I don't even have to rebuff when someone compare Canada a free democratic progressive advanced country with a shithole like Saudi Arabia where hell is better than its Kingdom to live in. Really ? Explain all that progressive crap to Canada's First Nations after the mining and logging is done. ...and the Saudis have sweet crude ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Really ? Explain all that progressive crap to Canada's First Nations after the mining and logging is done. ...and the Saudis have sweet crude ! How much is the big mystery. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: It's a fact, though. Saudi-US relations go back further than the terrorism. America did spend tons of bucks on various projects in Canada. Many if not most major airports in Western Canada, for example, have some connection to Lend Lease or the Alaska Highway in their creation. I was objecting to using Canada as an example to justify Saudi Arabia action. It is fine to be allies with Canada and visit and praise Canadians and it leaders for the reasons I specified but a disgrace to do same with Saudi Arabia again for the reasons I explained. 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: I was objecting to using Canada as an example to justify Saudi Arabia action. It is fine to be allies with Canada and visit and praise Canadians and it leaders for the reasons I specified but a disgrace to do same with Saudi Arabia again for the reasons I explained. Nonsense...nothing special about Canada when it comes to raping the earth for resources and abusing people while doing it. Go learn some Canadian history.....Trump doesn't care either way. Good for him. Edited May 22, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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