America under President Trump

[Argus]

Why a lifelong Republican is going to be voting for Biden.

In 2016 I broke with the Republican party for the first time and supported the libertarian candidate. I vote in a solidly Democratic state, so I had the luxury of casting a protest vote against a system that made Americans choose between two members of the New York elite, the least popular presidential candidates in history, both of whom acted as though becoming president was their birthright rather than the highest privilege. But this time, I’m protesting by joining the other side. There is a candidate in this race who, while far from perfect, has a history of reaching across the aisle. He has based his campaign on reuniting the nation and, perhaps most importantly in this election cycle, has reminded us that it’s OK to apologise now and again.

America does not have a monarchy. The President is our head of state and our moral compass. Trump has proven time and time again that he is unfit for these roles. I like to believe a Republican leader is waiting around the corner to restore the values and principles that once made the party great. Until then, I’m happy for the Oval Office to be filled by someone who has a different vision for America than I have, but who loves the country and what it stands for nonetheless.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-this-lifelong-republican-has-to-vote-for-biden

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

1) Trump is accused of lining his pockets. If unproven accusations don’t count then why are you making unproven accusations against Biden and Trudeau?

2) What “charitable event“?  Details please  

1) Where's the cite for this allegation of Trump lining his pockets?

2) https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/trudeau-government-contributed-1-18-million-to-we-day-event-in-2017-during-which-pms-mother-was-likely-paid-to-speak

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OTTAWA – Prime Minister Justin Trudeau asked WE Charity to host a 2017 Canada Day weekend event on Parliament Hill, the organization’s co-founder said, for which the government paid $1.18 million. And Trudeau’s mother, who had been receiving fees for making public appearances at WE events at the time, was a speaker at the event.

Trudeau ASKED WE to host an event

Trudeau GAVE WE GOV'T CASH to host that event.

Some of THAT MONEY WENT TO TRUDEAU'S MOM.

That's pretty linear. It wasn't an event that We was hosting themselves, Trudeau solicited them to do it. 

"Hey here's $1.18M to host an event that my mom will get paid to speak at."

This wasn't a value for money proposition. Canadians didn't get anything out of this. Trudeau just found a way to get his mom some money. We was nothing more than a gravy train for Liberals and their family members.

 

Again, your ignorance is appalling. 

 

[CampMassad]

9 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Trump will still have a lasting impact (e.g. 3 U.S. Supreme Court justices ), and the GOP will help him do it.

The "World" has no say in the matter.

The damage that Trump has done, will hopefully be corrected in time. He was, by far, the worst leader in American history.  Considering that George W Bush was President for two terms, that is pretty dubious honor.

Edited October 18, 2020 by CampMassad

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, Argus said:

The Star Investigation lasted the entire four years of Clinton's first term and ranged far and wide into anything the Republicans thought might damage Clinton, issuing nearly weekly subpoenas.  That included demanding interviews with Clinton himself.  Ken Star himself never even pretended the investigation was in any way unbiased or neutral. He was a lifelong Republican out to get Clinton, appointed by a Republican congress.

The difference here being that there were actual crimes committed in the Whitewater land deal, and actual American citizens named the Clintons as being involved criminally, while under oath.

"Evidence" against Trump includes some Russian-made stories, Hillary lies, an astounding amount of FBI malfeasance, and nothing at all of actual value to investigators of an actual crime. All of the evidence that ever turned up in Trump-Russia collusion was exculpatory, or proved crimes committed by the FBI. 

The FBI named their fall guy. Apparently it's all on Kevin Clinesmith lol: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/kevin-clinesmith-fbi-pleads-guilty/2020/08/19/6c0dec54-e0a0-11ea-8dd2-d07812bf00f7_story.html 

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

The damage that Trump has done, will hopefully be corrected in time. He was, by far, the worst leader in American history.  Considering that George W Bush was President for two terms, that is pretty dubious honor.

You couldn't have made a more hollow post if you tried.

[Argus]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The difference here being that there were actual crimes committed in the Whitewater land deal, and actual American citizens named the Clintons as being involved criminally, while under oath.

There was never any real evidence and no charges were brought for any of the many things Star investigated. They finally got Clinton for trying to cover up an affair. Boy! Imagine if Mueller (a lifelong Republican appointed by another lifelong Republican) had demanded an interview with Trump and started asking about his many affairs! How many charges would have come out of that!?

[CampMassad]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You couldn't have made a more hollow post if you tried.

Trump has a 86% disapproval rating in Canada.  Why is it that of the 86%, only a fraction post on political forums, while a significant percentage of the 14% that have a favorable opinion of Trump are so vocal about their love for the man?  

Edited October 18, 2020 by CampMassad

[WestCanMan]

20 minutes ago, Argus said:

Why a lifelong Republican is going to be voting for Biden...

Boohoo.

That's not actually the story of a Republican who turned Democrat, it's a rehash of all CNN's fake news. More accurately, it's the story of a complete moron who doesn't know when they're being lied to. 

[bush_cheney2004]

15 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

The damage that Trump has done, will hopefully be corrected in time. He was, by far, the worst leader in American history.  Considering that George W Bush was President for two terms, that is pretty dubious honor.

 

Doesn't matter...Canada and the "world" will have to deal with whomever Americans choose as their "leader".    Trump matters more than <insert world "leader" of your choice>.

Canada watches American politics most of all...."because it affects us ! "

[bush_cheney2004]

8 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

Trump has a 86% disapproval rating in Canada. 

 

So did Bush #43...he was re-elected anyway.   Because he had a higher rating where it counted...in the United States.

Do you think Americans go to the polls caring so much about what Canada thinks about the president and the election ?

 

Edited October 18, 2020 by bush_cheney2004

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, Argus said:

There was never any real evidence and no charges were brought for any of the many things Star investigated. They finally got Clinton for trying to cover up an affair. Boy! Imagine if Mueller (a lifelong Republican appointed by another lifelong Republican) had demanded an interview with Trump and started asking about his many affairs! How many charges would have come out of that!?

Jim MacDougall was convicted on 18 counts of felony fraud and conspiracy charges. His wife went to prison for refusing to testify against the Clintons. The Clintons were their business partners. 

The Clintons "lost all their emails", I mean, "papers". Weird how that always happens. Hillary has also suffered two bouts of amnesia in her lifetime, both times when she was testifying in court.

You're comparing the investigation of actual and very serious crimes with the Loch Ness Monster investigation. 

[CampMassad]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Doesn't matter...Canada and the "world" will have to deal with whomever Americans choose as their "leader".    Trump matters more than <insert world "leader" of your choice>.

Canada watches American politics most of all...."because it affects us ! "

That's a very dangerous attitude to have.  America's enemies no longer fear them, and America's traditional friends not do not trust them.  With Trump inept at dealing with foreign affairs, China just waltzed in to Hong Kong, and pretty much took it over, and that is not saying anything about the concentration camps China is constructing for hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs in. 

A weak America will mean chaos, and instability throughout many parts of the World. The Kurds fought hard with the Americans to capture ISIS soldiers, only to be abandoned by Trump.  Now they are at the mercy of the much stronger Turkish Army, and hopefully they do not end up like the Armenians. 

Meanwhile in Russia, Putin is interfering with elections in Belarus, and can conceivably waltz into the Baltic countries, and annex them just like 1940 if he chooses to do so.  Who will stop him? Putin has Trump in his back pocket.  It's amazing Americans chose a president that trust a foreign country over their own intelligence, which is considered the best in the World. How could he dismiss intelligence reports that Russia was placing bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan?

 America's enemies are laughing at them. 

[WestCanMan]

16 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

Trump has a 86% disapproval rating in Canada.  Why is it that of the 86%, only a fraction post on political forums, while a significant percentage of the 14% that have a favorable opinion of Trump are so vocal about their love for the man?  

CTV and CBC are pure alt-left garbage. Canadians don't have access to the truth, at all, unless they bother to look for it themselves.

Are you Canadian Massad? Can you tell me about any crimes that SNC Lavalin committed which would be of great interest to Canadians, from before the DPA law was passed?

[CampMassad]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

CTV and CBC are pure alt-left garbage. Canadians don't have access to the truth, at all, unless they bother to look for it themselves.

Are you Canadian Massad? Can you tell me about any crimes that SNC Lavalin committed which would be of great interest to Canadians, from before the DPA law was passed?

Canadians are more grounded, and usually do not fall for ridiculous slanted news like FOX, Breitbart, OANN, etc.  The Sun News Network was our version of FOX, and it barely registered on the Neilson ratings scale, and quickly went under. CBC may be slightly left of centre, but what is the problem with CTV?

 

I will be glad to discuss the SNC Lavalin affair in the appropriate category.

Edited October 18, 2020 by CampMassad

[bush_cheney2004]

6 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

A weak America will mean chaos, and instability throughout many parts of the World.

 ....America's enemies are laughing at them. 

 

Doesn't seem to bother Canada....laughed at around the world with Trudeau as "Dear Leader".

Being so dependent on the United States (regardless of Trump) is the "world's" problem.

Hell, Canada is a NATO spending deadbeat...pointed out by Bush, Obama, and Trump.

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

Canadians are more grounded, and usually do not fall for ridiculous slanted news like FOX, Breitbart, OANN, etc.  The Sun News Network was our version of FOX, and it barely registered on the Neilson ratings scale, and quickly went under. CBC may be slightly left of centre, but what is the problem with CTV?

 

American television programming dominates Canada's Numeris ratings....for decades.

[CampMassad]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

American television programming dominates Canada's Numeris ratings....for decades.

Depends what type of programming. FOX news has never done well in Canada.

[CampMassad]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Doesn't seem to bother Canada....laughed at around the world with Trudeau as "Dear Leader".

Being so dependent on the United States (regardless of Trump) is the "world's" problem.

Hell, Canada is a NATO spending deadbeat...pointed out by Bush, Obama, and Trump.

Canadians are better soldiers than the Americans.  There is a reason American tourists sew Canadian flags on their backpacks when travelling to countries outside North America. Canadians also have the good sense to de-escalate situations.  Americans have never been very proficient at this. America definitely needed Canada in Afghanistan. We were the only ones the local population trusted enough, to convince them to allow American operations for their own benefit. 

I'm not surprised Trump acts the way he does to NATO countries.  He was never a soldier, and his family are not only conmen, but full of cowards that did everything humanly possible to not serve their respective country in military battles. Isn't that why Trump's Grandfather fled Germany...to escape conscription in the German army? 

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

Depends what type of programming. FOX news has never done well in Canada.

 

Fox News has carriage on many Canadian cable/satellite systems.  Does very well for a foreign news channel, as do CNN, MSNBC, Bloomberg, etc.    American media dominates.

[OftenWrong]

35 minutes ago, Argus said:

 Imagine if Mueller (a lifelong Republican appointed by another lifelong Republican) had demanded an interview with Trump and started asking about his many affairs! How many charges would have come out of that!?

Sure. During his presidency, in the Oral Oval office?

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

That's a very dangerous attitude to have.  America's enemies no longer fear them, and America's traditional friends not do not trust them.  With Trump inept at dealing with foreign affairs, China just waltzed in to Hong Kong, and pretty much took it over, and that is not saying anything about the concentration camps China is constructing for hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs in. 

A weak America will mean chaos, and instability throughout many parts of the World. The Kurds fought hard with the Americans to capture ISIS soldiers, only to be abandoned by Trump.  Now they are at the mercy of the much stronger Turkish Army, and hopefully they do not end up like the Armenians. 

Meanwhile in Russia, Putin is interfering with elections in Belarus, and can conceivably waltz into the Baltic countries, and annex them just like 1940 if he chooses to do so.  Who will stop him? Putin has Trump in his back pocket.  It's amazing Americans chose a president that trust a foreign country over their own intelligence, which is considered the best in the World. How could he dismiss intelligence reports that Russia was placing bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan?

 America's enemies are laughing at them. 

All of your stories are twisted and idiotic.

America's traditional friends are still allies, and the whole world has benefitted from Trump's Presidency.

People like Trudeau, who are traitors to their own country might not like Trump, that's actually a proof that he's a decent person.

Like it or not, the Kurds do have an actual history of terrorist attacks in Turkey, and Trump opted to let Turkey reclaim a buffer zone. The window of opportunity for Turkey to take actions against the Kurds ended a long time ago and there's no genocide pending, at least until the Dems get back in and world leaders are no longer afraid to act out their most evil intentions.

FYI China's violations against human rights within their country didn't start in 2016. LMAO Camper, you're just woefully ignorant of world history.

America is anything but weak right now, Obama was weak. Russian invaded a European country while Obama was POTUS and all he did was pee his pants a little. Russia has ALWAYS interfered in foreign elections, and they've always had extremely high-handed involvement in politics in that region. 

How many US soldiers died under Trump's presidency Camper? Compare that number to that of any other POTUS of the last 100 years and you'll understand why Trump is beloved by members of his military. Look at the recent successes of terrorist groups, and the longevity of their leaders, and tell me how Trump's Presidency was weak.......

You're spewing CNN idiocy dude. Think for yourself, or look for some news sources with a history of accuracy. CNN has lied about everything over the past 4 years. Book it. All of their little toadies here scatter like flies when they're asked to vouch for CNN's record. It's a joke.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, CampMassad said:

Canadians are better soldiers than the Americans.  There is a reason American tourists sew Canadian flags on their backpacks when travelling to countries outside North America.

 

 

More Canadian identity mythology.

Then foreign minister Chrystia Freeland begged Trump and the United States to continue protecting the "post WW2 order", because everybody knows that Canada sure as hell can't/won't do it.

[WestCanMan]

13 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

Canadians are more grounded, and usually do not fall for ridiculous slanted news like FOX, Breitbart, OANN, etc.  The Sun News Network was our version of FOX, and it barely registered on the Neilson ratings scale, and quickly went under. CBC may be slightly left of centre, but what is the problem with CTV?

 

I will be glad to discuss the SNC Lavalin affair in the appropriate category.

OK campy, let's go then.

You cite some lies/fake news reported by Fox and I'll recite the laundry list of CNN lies. 

 

SNC Lavalin is actually pertinent here, because you brought up Canada's opinion of Trump and I correctly stated how completely biased and worthless our MSM is.

If CBC and CTV are worthwhile news channels then you should be aware of "crimes that SNC Lavalin committed which would be of great interest to Canadians, from before the DPA law was passed?" It should be a really easy answer for you. The reason that you don't know is because they have Trudeau's back, through all of his crimes agains Canadians. 

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

 

I'm not surprised Trump acts the way he does to NATO countries.  He was never a soldier, and his family are not only conmen, but full of cowards that did everything humanly possible to not serve their respective country in military battles. Isn't that why Trump's Grandfather fled Germany...to escape conscription in the German army? 

 

Joe Biden got just as many draft deferments as Trump....five.

Trudeau's father was a closet Nazi who avoided military service as well.

[WestCanMan]

6 minutes ago, CampMassad said:

Canadians are better soldiers than the Americans.  There is a reason American tourists sew Canadian flags on their backpacks when travelling to countries outside North America.

LMAO. This is the first time that I've ever heard that reason for Americans travelling with a US flag. America has a bad rep for being foreign policy bullies and that's all.

As a former member of Canada's military I can assure you that members of our military share an extreme trust and respect for America's military, period. Your sentiments are childish and divisive.