eyeball Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 Trump's intent to hire a special prosecutor to go after Clinton once he's in power sounds more like something a dictator who's bent on eliminating their opposition would do. It sounded like something right out of North Korea. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
msj Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 21 hours ago, BC_chick said: I'm just astounded that people who are spending so much of their time criticizing Trump's lewd word don't seem even a bit concerned about Clinton casually wanting to kill people. Sorry not sorry. Your absence of commentary is indeed indicative of your denial. Back to this BS. I'm sorry, not sorry, but I do not think silence is indicative of "yes" but you go ahead and continue your defence of such a philosophy. If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Wilber Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: Trump's intent to hire a special prosecutor to go after Clinton once he's in power sounds more like something a dictator who's bent on eliminating their opposition would do. It sounded like something right out of North Korea. That's what Trump does, he has done it all through this campaign, including threatening to get rid of the first amendment. "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
?Impact Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Derek 2.0 said: I see Wikileaks has just released another batch of emails on Clinton, her family and ties with Wall Street... Certainly embarrassing stuff in there, like the one about her daughter, but I don't see anything really damaging to the campaign.
msj Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Argus said: I'm still waiting for someone to actually substantiate these failings. The airwaves have been filled with accusations for years, but where's the evidence? Agreed. Substance please? Anyone? Anyone? What I would like to know, after watching last nights debate, is what kind of policies does one expect from Hillary and from Trump? Hillary comes across as though she knows how the system works (which is good and bad)* while Trump comes across as being aloof as his CPA works magic to park his debt and carry forward nearly a billion of losses to avoid income taxes. Sure, I can get behind his plans to legalize drugs but not at the cost of defunding planned parenthood. Nor at the cost of a Supreme Court that would overturn RvW. Etc etc. IOW, the guy is a creep and, the extent that he does have policies, the bad ideas outweigh the few good ones. Hillary may have flaws (largely unsubstantiated) but has more good ideas than bad. The choice should be easy for anyone who believes in women's health, or minority rights, or even economics (except Trump may be better for us Canadians - which is sad). Of course, this choice does not come through from the debates. It requires looking at their policies, some of which are interesting and hopefully will be considered on this side of the border. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Bad like Pence's grasp, for example. Go Google "Glenda Ritz" although if you're a Trump supporter you are likely to think that she is just "a librarian, okay?" If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
msj Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Derek 2.0 said: I see Wikileaks has just released another batch of emails on Clinton, her family and ties with Wall Street... Good of Putin to allow for this release of vital information. If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
GostHacked Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 15 hours ago, cybercoma said: This is just it. He's not some kid who doesn't know better. He's an adult who should have some common sense. Where is Clinton's common sense?
Wilber Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, GostHacked said: Where is Clinton's common sense? Which Clinton? "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
GostHacked Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Wilber said: Which Clinton? Really? You have to ask this in the context of the thread title?
Wilber Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, GostHacked said: Really? You have to ask this in the context of the thread title? Yes. "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Derek 2.0 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 26 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Certainly embarrassing stuff in there, like the one about her daughter, but I don't see anything really damaging to the campaign. You read all the emails? I haven't.
GostHacked Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Wilber said: Yes. Look at the title and ask yourself which one I am referring to. Easy as that.
Wilber Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, GostHacked said: Look at the title and ask yourself which one I am referring to. Easy as that. Well Trump and his supporters have made this about Bill so you will have to be more specific. "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
GostHacked Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, Wilber said: Well Trump and his supporters have made this about Bill so you will have to be more specific. Right, moving on...
Wilber Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, GostHacked said: Right, moving on... Yes, moving on. "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, msj said: ...It requires looking at their policies, some of which are interesting and hopefully will be considered on this side of the border. Not really...these are two bad candidates that many Americans will not vote for and most Canadians can't vote for even if they wanted to. Economics trumps Virtue.
BC_chick Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, msj said: Back to this BS. I'm sorry, not sorry, but I do not think silence is indicative of "yes" but you go ahead and continue your defence of such a philosophy. You already responded to that post and I ignored you, but if you really feel a need to drag it up again - fine, my apologies for believing that the people rooting for Clinton do not believe she's a sociopath. Clearly, it was such a far-fetched assertion worded to not offend, but perhaps you do think she's a sociopath. Shrugs. It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
msj Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, BC_chick said: You already responded to that post and I ignored you, but if you really feel a need to drag it up again - fine, my apologies for believing that the people rooting for Clinton do not believe she's a sociopath. Clearly, it was such a far-fetched assertion worded to not offend, but perhaps you do think she's a sociopath. Shrugs. Assert whatever you want. Just do not presume to speak for me by my absence of not commenting on something. If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
BC_chick Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, msj said: Assert whatever you want. Just do not presume to speak for me by my absence of not commenting on something. Jesus, what is wrong with you? I explained where my intentions were innocent and and I apologized if you took offence. Do you just need to get the last word or do you really have a need to beat a dead horse? It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
?Impact Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Derek 2.0 said: You read all the emails? I haven't. No, but I read those that were flagged as significant. If you can find a needle in the haystack then great, but until then I will not assume it is in there.
Argus Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, msj said: Good of Putin to allow for this release of vital information. I don't think Putin is a fan of Trump. I think he believes Trump is an ignorant, easily manipulated bumpkin who he'd love to have as president so he can run rings around him. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
msj Posted October 10, 2016 Report Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, BC_chick said: Jesus, what is wrong with you? I explained where my intentions were innocent and and I apologized if you took offence. Do you just need to get the last word or do you really have a need to beat a dead horse? Must of missed it with the sorry, not sorry BS. Sorry. If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Derek 2.0 Posted October 11, 2016 Report Posted October 11, 2016 4 hours ago, ?Impact said: No, but I read those that were flagged as significant. If you can find a needle in the haystack then great, but until then I will not assume it is in there. You don't think alleged impropriety between the Clintons, the Clinton Foundation, MF Global and Teneo holdings is significant? Or one of the senior operating officers of the Clinton Foundation threatening to kill herself over dealings with Bubba?
msj Posted October 11, 2016 Report Posted October 11, 2016 Aren't you the one always excusing things on the basis that since it has not gone through the criminal justice system it has not happened? If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Rue Posted October 11, 2016 Report Posted October 11, 2016 I find it fascinating how regulars on the forum are not lined up by left for Hilary right for Trump considerations as to ideology but on perceived character flaws. Fascinating as Spock would say. I defer to comments of Argus, MSJ and Tim G. From what I see Clinton is full of well documented questionable dirty past political mud but Trump is a nut job so I would go with her. His pacing and whining at the journalists showed a very immature screwed up personality. Hilary is a cold blooded sociopath, Trump a border line anti social narcissist sadistic pig. What a choice.
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