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Assuming you have a license. :rolleyes:

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/11/25/using-medical-marijuana-now-ok-in-public-places-in-ontario-under-new-regulations.html

It’s okay, I have doctor’s note.

Under new Ontario regulations, that’s what people puffing on medical marijuana — in a joint or an e-cigarette — can now say in any public place where smoking is otherwise banned.

The exemption includes everything from movie theatres to restaurants, offices, stadiums, playgrounds full of children and more – even the legislature, Dipika Damerla, Ontario’s associate health minister, acknowledged Wednesday.

She was peppered with questions about the new rules, which leave gray areas in which bystanders – particularly kids – could be exposed to potentially dangerous second-hand pot smoke and how to prove the smoking is a legitimate medical use for cancer, severe epilepsy or other conditions.

But employers, restaurant owners and other proprietors have the right to overrule any medical marijuana smoking, Damerla said.

What hypocritical BS!!!

Second-hand smoke is second hand smoke. Just because you're using it to medicate some sort of pain doesn't mean you're not spewing smoke in a public place, which is banned.

And of vaping you ask? Well governments are trying to ban E-cigs and Hookah in public too.

This is the type of hypocritical double-speak that makes people distrust anything governments do in the name of public safety.

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Doesn't this help?

But employers, restaurant owners and other proprietors have the right to overrule any medical marijuana smoking, Damerla said.

I agree it's ridiculous, but if a place can still say no to smoking I imagine they will, or go out of business fairly quickly.

Posted (edited)

Doesn't this help?

But employers, restaurant owners and other proprietors have the right to overrule any medical marijuana smoking, Damerla said.

I agree it's ridiculous, but if a place can still say no to smoking I imagine they will, or go out of business fairly quickly.

NO! Why can't that same freedom be given to business owners who want to let their patrons smoke or use an E-Cig or smoke Hookah?

If it's a public safety issue, it should be a blanket application.

Does the health of a person in the vicinity of a medical MJ user become null and void now?

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NO! Why can't that same freedom be given to business owners who want to let their patrons smoke or use an E-Cig or smoke Hookah?

If it's a public safety issue, it should be a blanket application.

Does the health of a person in the vicinity of a medical MJ user become null and void now?

Good point. I agree.

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I m on the fence here.

Most people don't pull out their meds and take them publicly.

Diabetics don't generally inject insulin in public.

So it's iffy.

It should be private, IMO.

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Why do medical marijuana users need to smoke in public again? I don't see what exactly is the impetus here? Why can't they smoke outdoors like everyone else?

Smoking is a public health issue. Its not the effect of the user, it is the effect to employees who have no choice and to other patrons. Now some single mother will have to take second hand smoke in her place of employment and risk the health effects of marijuana just to get a pay check. Seems pretty shitty for people who chose to not smoke. This is FAR worse than a hookah lounge or cigar lounges. In cigar loungers or hookah bars, people have made an ACTIVE choice to work in a SMOKING environment. People who dislike it can EASILY avoid it. I don't smoke, so you know what, I never went to a hookah bar. I was fine with them. Heck I am even fine with cigar bars.

This is very bad policy, what about exposing children to smoke? What about if you find an employer or bar who permits this but other employees are allergic to the smoke (allergies, asthma, copd, etc). What about on people who work with heavy equipment who are breathing in this second hand smoke. How will they pass a drug test. What if you sit in a room with these smokers while eating dinner, get in your car, cop pulls you over and blood test you because you smell like weed and you test positive. So now you go to jail for DUI which the government says is the devil.

This will open up a pandora''s box. Because now they either have to convict you for letting someone practice their "right" or every weed smoker who drives high and gets caught is going to blame some medicinal user. This is going to make it impossible to convict anyone who is high while driving.

I don't oppose the med marijuana, but I do oppose this dumb law, which is probably a distrction from Wynee's failing government.

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Wynne has lost it. It's not well thought out at all, there is no reason for medical pot smokers to do it in public, they can toke up before going inside a venue. Will they be able to smoke up in a public park near kids. I sure don't want that foul smelling stuff around me anymore than I do cigarette smoke. How is a venue owner going to determine if it's medical or not, can he ask for proof?

Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province

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I feel like I need to read/think more on this.

Generally, it seems like business owners have the final say anyway...I'd assume most restaurants/theatres/everything covered in this law, will be "non-smoking" by choice anyway?

How dangerous is second hand marijuana smoke anyway?

How many people would this actually affect?

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I feel like I need to read/think more on this.

Generally, it seems like business owners have the final say anyway...I'd assume most restaurants/theatres/everything covered in this law, will be "non-smoking" by choice anyway?

How dangerous is second hand marijuana smoke anyway?

How many people would this actually affect?

I saw the same thing in the OP, but as Boges pointed out, the choice should not be theirs. Nobody should be subjected to second hand smoke in a public place.

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How dangerous is second hand marijuana smoke anyway?

How many people would this actually affect?

Perhaps a negligible amount. But it's irrelevant.

Why can't allow smoking if they want? Because according to our government overlords, it's a public health issue.

What's dumb is that apparently you were always allowed to smoke Medical MJ in public and no one ever reported on it, why this became news yesterday is because they revised to upcoming ban on E-Cigs to include an exemption for vaping MJ.

Now banning E-cigs is public safety run amok. There is no evidence that second-hand vaping is harmful. The hypocrisy of this government is mind boggingly hypocritical.

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Nobody should be subjected to second hand smoke in a public place.

How do you feel about car exhaust?
"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Posted

How do you feel about car exhaust?

Same way. I would never attend the Opera if they let cars in.

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As a sidenote about car exhaust. I was in a parking garage with a friend that smokes. He wondered if he was allowed to smoke down there. I said, it can't be any worse than all the running cars down here.

But knowing the idiocy of our government here in Ontario, it's probably illegal to smoke in a parking garage as well.

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How do you feel about car exhaust?

Put the same kind of emission controls on your joint as is on my car and no one will notice. Otherwise, the stuff smells god awful to people who don't use it.

"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC

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Put the same kind of emission controls on your joint as is on my car and no one will notice. Otherwise, the stuff smells god awful to people who don't use it.

So vaping is all right with you? You can't smell that.
"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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Then why, as of Jan 1, is vaping going to be illegal in public places in Ontario?

I have no idea. Some people like to worry that other people are having too much fun?
"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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Then why, as of Jan 1, is vaping going to be illegal in public places in Ontario?

Because no one has figured out how to rein in a government that can't rein itself in?

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A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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