Smallc Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Perhaps the Minister should have been on top things a lot sooner. Yes - a minister, in charge of a multi billion dollar department, should have focused all of his attention on this one hotel. Quote
waldo Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Yes - a minister, in charge of a multi billion dollar department, should have focused all of his attention on this one hotel. yes, clearly... he should have taken on the 'hotel clerk role' and been actively checking reservations against available rooms! Cause... the hotel owner that bid on the related contract and contractually guaranteed a set number of rooms... that hotel owner has no responsibility here! Quote
PIK Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 As trump would say, we are being to nice. Time for people to stand up and fight for their homelands instead of just moving from country to country, expecting them to bend over back wards for them. All this was, was a election ploy and yes it is backfiring on them big time. HARPER WAS RIGHT. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Smallc Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 You fight when they start beheadif your neighbours. I'm not staying. Quote
capricorn Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Yes - a minister, in charge of a multi billion dollar department, should have focused all of his attention on this one hotel. Supposedly, the Minister has departmental advisors, as well as his own ministerial staff. Should they not be communicating to keep on top of such sensitive issues? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Argus Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Look. I know you self segregate but don't try and lump in all Canadians with your own views. No matter how much a refugee tries to make a better life, you would find any possible reason to beat them down. Most of the people I know are public servants, and most support the liberals. But I'm not hiding my head in the dubious ultra-left happy-days zone of the wet coast. I also wish everyone well, but when I have to pay for their food and clothing I think I have the right to question the wisdom of who and why we bring people here. It'd be interesting to know how many of those who are so happy to bring over tens of thousands more freeloaders are freeloaders themselves. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Keepitsimple Posted January 27, 2016 Author Report Posted January 27, 2016 Looks like we'll be getting some bad press in the US: WASHINGTON — The Canadian government has fired off a pre-emptive strike before American lawmakers hold a hearing in which the northern neighbour’s Syria refugee policy will be on the hot seat. It sent a note to members of a powerful U.S. Senate committee that has scheduled a meeting next week titled, “Canada’s Fast-Track Refugee Plan: Unanswered Questions and Implications for U.S. National Security.” The U.S. Senate homeland-security hearing is, for the Trudeau government, an unwanted flip-side to the praise it received from progressives and foreign media outlets last month when the prime minister personally greeted refugees at the airport. Link: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/trudeau-government-sends-letter-to-u-s-senate-committee-thats-dissecting-canadas-fast-track-refugee-plan Quote Back to Basics
Argus Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 He's already been shown the error of his comment about them not learning our official languages. I never said any such thing. I said most came here with no language or job skills. Unable to form any sort of coherent rebuttal you then claimed that some stats - never produced - showed most refugees eventually learn English. Whoopee. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Yes I know. Unfortunately there are many like him that are not sympathetic to individuals trying for a better life in a strange country, Not when I have to pay for them just so you can feel good about yourself. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 I feel so lucky to have had the educational experiences to have traveled to a lot of their countries, and experienced their hospitality.Perhaps if others had had the same opportunity it would have assuaged their fears. And did the citizens of those foreign countries pay for your travel, food clothing, shelter? I'm guessing uhhhh, nope! That was dad! Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 There have been plenty of announcements of organizations offering free services for the very Items you are throwing out. Why are you denying those? Why are you pretending that a few offers of help are going to teach tens of thousands of people how to speak enough English to get more than a menial level job? Have you ever tried to learn a second language as an adult? Are you under the illusion it's easy and only takes a few weeks or so? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 I never said any such thing. I said most came here with no language or job skills. Unable to form any sort of coherent rebuttal you then claimed that some stats - never produced - showed most refugees eventually learn English. Whoopee. No that's not quite what you said, but carry on. Quote
Argus Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 We do not have to turn our backs on refugees in order to help Canadians. This is a misconception that is perpetuated by islamaphobes. I've noticed this growing habit of yours of namecalling and insulting those who disagree with you. Getting desperate? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 I can't argue against your beliefs. You will believe what you will. I can only post about my belief in humankind and supporting these Syrian refugees. Oh good. So please tell us how you personally intend to support these Syrian refugees. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 And did the citizens of those foreign countries pay for your travel, food clothing, shelter? I'm guessing uhhhh, nope! That was dad! Sorry to thwart your latest attempt at personalization, but I don't have a dad, but an employer who sent me around the world on a regular basis. I guess that's wwhy I don't have the same irrational fears that seem to plague your ilk. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Looks like Canada's embassy was invited to the U.S. Senate hearing on fast tracking refugees, but declined to attend. Instead, Ambassador Gary Doer sent a "preemptive" letter to the committee members. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syrian-refugee-screening-set-for-scrutiny-at-u-s-senate-committee-1.3421692 Trump would close the border...build a wall, not send love notes. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Then you must be very 'comfortable'. https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/2005/btn7_5_Tax_Paid_By_the_Rich.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiE9q-YocrKAhXHtIMKHU9JAegQFgggMAM&usg=AFQjCNHEcXq38JA6GJRb2NHA0A32mZDpnw&sig2=0-u2jrb2aE0wQh5GHPljFQ Income tax makes up less than 40% of the taxes individuals pay, and it is the only progressive tax they pay. All other taxes paid by Canadians are regressive, including the GST, retail sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes on cigarettes, liquor and lottery tickets, and payroll taxes for financing the Canadian Pension Plan and Employment Insurance. These taxes take their biggest bite, proportionally, from lower-income Canadians. I noticed how the word 'proportionately' gets worked in there. The absolute fact is lower-income Canadians don't pay heavy taxes because they don't buy stuff that results in heavy taxes. I bought a new house last year. That resulted in a $65,000 tax bill. I pay fuel taxes which someone who doesn't own a car doesn't pay. Cigarettes, liquor and lottery tickets are all voluntary, and payroll taxes result in refunds for low income earners. Most of the costs of running this country and supporting the millions of freeloaders are paid by a small percentage of the population, mostly by people you and your ilk despise. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Sorry to thwart your latest attempt at personalization, but I don't have a dad, but an employer who sent me around the world on a regular basis. I guess that's wwhy I don't have the same irrational fears that seem to plague your ilk. Taxpayers, you mean? The ones who have to pay for the freeloaders your ilk keeps inviting in? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
waldo Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Taxpayers, you mean? The ones who have to pay for the freeloaders your ilk keeps inviting in? care to define "ilk" in regards the historical bipartisan program intended to resettle refugees in Canada? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Taxpayers, you mean? The ones who have to pay for the freeloaders your ilk keeps inviting in? Yep, taxpayers, just like me. Quote
Argus Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 care to define "ilk" in regards the historical bipartisan program intended to resettle refugees in Canada? Ilk, as in the progressive literati/glitterati of central Canadian academic, media and political elites and their hangers on and admirers. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Ilk, as in the progressive literati/glitterati of central Canadian academic, media and political elites and their hangers on and admirers. And then of course there's Fox(faux) news and the like, for the other side. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Posted January 28, 2016 oh my! Just look at that ConservativePC 'market dictates' philosophy being shelved in order to further pick away at the refugee program! My understanding is that bidders on the contracts must guarantee a set number of rooms - which becomes a contractual aspect. So the onus here is on the motel/hotel owners - they are the ones anxious to realize the bid/gain the contract. C'mon Conservative supporters - ain't that the 'free enterprise market driven' thingee you're all about? By Market dictates, do you mean the Trudeau Liberals awarding a contract for immigration services for Syrian refugees, to a company that employed a Liberal MP? I wonder if media has connected the dots yet? Quote
eyeball Posted January 28, 2016 Report Posted January 28, 2016 Ilk, as in the progressive literati/glitterati of central Canadian academic, media and political elites and their hangers on and admirers.Don't worry I'm sure they'll have camps for putting them into as well as all the brown people. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCoastRunner Posted January 28, 2016 Report Posted January 28, 2016 Oh good. So please tell us how you personally intend to support these Syrian refugees. Well, personally there isn't much I can do financially (except through my taxes), but not sure why that would prove my tolerance and empathy towards the refugees. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
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