Smallc Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 You are telling me that Harper has not been pushing oil since he came to power? It's all the provinces' doing? You are in denial. I think that Harper is the kind of person that pushes any type of economic activity. Since oil was doing well up until about 10 months ago, it wasn't a hard sell. Manufacturing is a much harder sell, but he has tried to sell it. Still, the bulk of the Canadian economy is and always will be service based. I guess that's Harper's fault too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairieboy43 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Never voted Conservative since the PC went back on promise to not Tax Income Trust. Don't trust the Party or him. But the majority do! People like being deceived. Or there are to many st$&@1? Canadians. PB43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 But the majority do! People like being deceived. Or there are to many st$&@1? Canadians. PB43 To be technical, only 37% voted for his party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairieboy43 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 To be technical, only 37% voted for his party. True about the #. This is a forum, not a paper. Generality is accepted. But you have a good name "Marcus". PB43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 To be technical, only 37% voted for his party. Another 39% of Canadians were happy enough with the job he was doing that they didn't feel the need to vote against him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairieboy43 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Whoever Wins. Tough Economic times ahead. If I were the Winner, I might demand a recount. Not a good situation coming up. Good luck to whomever takes this role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 To me, that's why Harper's apologists don't get to just do the lament about falling oil prices! He was the one who banked on oil at $100 a barrel when he started his strategy of big tarsands and pipeline expansions. If it didn't work out for him, that says lots about his economic leadership abilities we hear so much of from rightwing sources! And again we hear this silly suggestion that Harper was behind the expansion of the Canadian oil industry, and that he disdained all other industries! There's no evidence whatsoever behind it, other than that you hate oil and you hate Harper, so you like to link them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 You are telling me that Harper has not been pushing oil since he came to power? It's all the provinces' doing? You are in denial. How has he been 'pushing' oil? What evidence do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeNumber Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Another 39% of Canadians were happy enough with the job he was doing that they didn't feel the need to vote against him either. At the time. Now it looks as though that's changed. When you can piss off the no-voters enough into voting against you, that says a lot about you as a leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Never voted Conservative since the PC went back on promise to not Tax Income Trust. Don't trust the Party or him. But the majority do! People like being deceived. Or there are to many st$&@1? Canadians. PB43 It was admittedly a short-sighted promise. They never expected the big corporations to try to get in on the act. When that happened, they really had no choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Considering he has lowered my taxes more then any other government combined in all of canadian history. I say, thank you Steven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Unfortunately for the anti-Harper crowd, the economy is making a surprising turnaround and the recession they were counting on? Ain't gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted August 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Unfortunately for the anti-Harper crowd, the economy is making a surprising turnaround and the recession they were counting on? Ain't gonna happen. Unfortunately for the Harper crowd, Stephen Harper still has the worst economic record of any Prime Minister since WW2. But don't let that stop you from enthusiastically shaking your pompom's for the worst team. Afterall, that's what die-hard fans do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted August 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 How has he been 'pushing' oil? What evidence do you have? How about tax incentives? Close to $1.4 billion a year in subsidies which have increased oil production. Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Unfortunately for the Harper crowd, Stephen Harper still has the worst economic record of any Prime Minister since WW2. But don't let that stop you from enthusiastically shaking your pompom's for the worst team. Afterall, that's what die-hard fans do. It's quite coincidental that the world went through the worst recession since WWII during his tenure, not to even mention the precipitous drop in the price of oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Unfortunately for the Harper crowd, Stephen Harper still has the worst economic record of any Prime Minister since WW2. Funny, I seem to recall the economic situation being far, far worse under Trudeau, Mulroney and in the early years of Chretien's rule. But I guess that doesn't count... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 How about tax incentives? Close to $1.4 billion a year in subsidies which have increased oil production. Link Yeah, and? Do you think he hasn't given subsidies or money to other industries? What did we pay to keep GM from going bankrupt? Something like $10 billion wasn't it? There are billions of dollars in grans and tax refunds available to every kind of industry and business every year in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Unfortunately for the anti-Harper crowd, the economy is making a surprising turnaround and the recession they were counting on? Ain't gonna happen. I wouldn't be to sure about that. The recent surge in exports will likely only serve to reduce the amount of the Q2 decline. So it very likely will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 The pre-global recession numbers look much different than the post-global recession numbers. Perhaps some type of indication should be made to have an intellectually honest discussion. Also, referencing the extremelyl weak Obama economy should be noted. there will be no honest discussions coming from the left, if that Rabble nonsense above is any indication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 The pre-global recession numbers look much different than the post-global recession numbers. Perhaps some type of indication should be made to have an intellectually honest discussion. Also, referencing the extremelyl weak Obama economy should be noted. Actually it's the US economy under Obama that is helping ours of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Actually it's the US economy under Obama that is helping ours of late. The US economy shrank in the first quarter of this year. How did that help us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 I didn't realize he was in control of private pipeline and oil companies. More like he still works for the petro lobby, and expects to be rewarded by them after leaving office.....but definitely won't get as much now as he would have if all of the tarsands schemes worked out as planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 And again we hear this silly suggestion that Harper was behind the expansion of the Canadian oil industry, and that he disdained all other industries! There's no evidence whatsoever behind it, other than that you hate oil and you hate Harper, so you like to link them together. What did the Harper Government offer us when an at par Cdn Dollar was finishing off the job done to Canadian manufacturing that NAFTA started? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 The US economy shrank in the first quarter of this year. How did that help us? No it actually grew by around 2% and has been for awhile. Who do you think bought most of those exports of ours lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Considering he has lowered my taxes more then any other government combined in all of canadian history. I say, thank you Steven. What we really need now is spending on improving infrastructure, not tax cuts! Most of the benefits from tax cuts go to those of us who are already older, while the infrastructure spending that is being neglected will be a burden for the coming generations in the next few decades.....along with the costs of lots of old baby boomers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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