PIK Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 You are right, if it goes south harper will take the hit, but we are not sending 1000s of troops over there. We have 6 jets a couple other planes and some personal. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Topaz Posted April 1, 2015 Report Posted April 1, 2015 Parliament voted and many didn't show up to vote and Canadians should be asking those MPs why?? http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/retired-general-rick-hillier-angry-at-mp-no-shows-for-isis-vote-1.3016401 Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 I like how they are trying to pin this as harpers war, when we have very little in it and we are with 60 other countries. The BS that comes form the left is unbelievable. But when you have no real scandals to whine about ,I guess you have to make some up. How about the steady stream of BS coming from Harper and co., We wont go into Syria unless they ask us, Oh wait, yes we will. Our mission to degrade ISIS, no wait, its to destroy ISIS. We need to be there because its only us and the US that have smart bombs, oh sorry thats wrong too. We are only boots on the ground as trainers behind the lines, OK that was a lie to., etc., etc. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 All the money, sweat, and brainpower spent on war and intervention in the middle-east by the West should rather be spent on developing and subsidizing an alternative source of energy that replaces oil. Then we'll never have to care about stability in the ME and Islamic fanatics won't have immediate inspirations to kill us...and we'll never have to step foot in that shit-hole again. People always argue how alternatives for oil would be expensive, but they fail to remember that the cost of oil is a lot higher than just the pricetag of a barrel is or the price at the pumps. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
On Guard for Thee Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 All the money, sweat, and brainpower spent on war and intervention in the middle-east by the West should rather be spent on developing and subsidizing an alternative source of energy that replaces oil. Then we'll never have to care about stability in the ME and Islamic fanatics won't have immediate inspirations to kill us...and we'll never have to step foot in that shit-hole again. People always argue how alternatives for oil would be expensive, but they fail to remember that the cost of oil is a lot higher than just the pricetag of a barrel is or the price at the pumps. Maybe you have already seen this but if not you might find it interesting given your comment. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted April 4, 2015 Report Posted April 4, 2015 Not surprisingly Trudeau is against it, after he was for it. Now he can play both sides of the debate, like the Liberals always have. Realistically, it's all one can do. When you're in business with the all powerful Nazis, what can you do? Even PET didn't come right out and describe the US invasion of Vietnam for what it was, one massive war crime punctuated by an infinite number of smaller one. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Posted April 4, 2015 ....Even PET didn't come right out and describe the US invasion of Vietnam for what it was, one massive war crime punctuated by an infinite number of smaller one. That's because PET and Canada was too busy making billions on exports of defoliants, munitions, and other war materials to the U.S. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Derek 2.0 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Posted April 4, 2015 That's because PET and Canada was too busy making billions on exports of defoliants, munitions, and other war materials to the U.S. You bet......Dow Chemical's Montreal plant, just outside of PET's own riding, was one of the largest producers of Vietnam bound napalm.....likewise their production of agent's blue, orange and white, later also tested within Canada, for use in Vietnam. Quote
Topaz Posted April 4, 2015 Report Posted April 4, 2015 As far as the threat by ISIS, I would think the MP's and others, who work for the feds in Ottawa have more of a threat on them and theirs , then any of us on here. Quote
eyeball Posted April 5, 2015 Report Posted April 5, 2015 You bet......Dow Chemical's Montreal plant, just outside of PET's own riding, was one of the largest producers of Vietnam bound napalm.....likewise their production of agent's blue, orange and white, later also tested within Canada, for use in Vietnam. You sure make it sound like something Canadians should be proud of...I wonder why this wasn't drilled into us alongside other Canadian achievements when I went to public school? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Derek 2.0 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Posted April 5, 2015 You sure make it sound like something Canadians should be proud of...I wonder why this wasn't drilled into us alongside other Canadian achievements when I went to public school? Something to be proud of is open to debate.......I prefer calling a spade a spade and dispensing with the Liberal narrative that is propagated into Canadian culture, post Fuddle Duddle, of a Utopian Canada that never was. Quote
eyeball Posted April 5, 2015 Report Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) ...a Utopian Canada that never was. And never will be. Edited April 5, 2015 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Keepitsimple Posted April 5, 2015 Report Posted April 5, 2015 And never will be. Utopia is something to be aspired to - it's the journey, not the destination. Most Canadians aspire to keep moving forward but clearly - your sour, defeatist attitude has sapped you of any aspiration at all. Quote Back to Basics
eyeball Posted April 5, 2015 Report Posted April 5, 2015 As usual you've got it completely backwards. I started moving beyond the nasty foul muck of nationalism and the miasma of false pride some time ago. I can actually thank people like you and and many others around here for helping me transcend that. The contradictions and reasons behind a lot of what I've seen transpire over the years make a lot more sense now. Now I aspire to help you become better Earthlings. The path to enlightenment is painful - always has been always will. I think can point to some success in this if Derek's last reply is anything to go by. He certainly seems to be open-minded to the notion that many if not most Canadians have been living under some sort of liberal illusion of who and what they are as a people. Drilling for the nerve around here almost always yields up similar elicitation or response; "yeah, we made a few mistakes"...is a common one. But the muck sucks hard and the miasma smells so good...it's hard to let go. I know what you're going through, that's why I'm here for you. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted April 6, 2015 Report Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Palestinians flee Damascus camp http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32189636 Palestinian militiamen opposed to the Syrian government are thought to be leading the fight against IS militants in the camp, along with some Free Syrian Army fighters.Would it be illegal for a Canadian to leave the country to join the PLO or the Free Syrian Army fighters in their fight against Assad? How about the PLO's fight against ISIS?How about Assad's fight against the PLO? Edited April 6, 2015 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Keepitsimple Posted April 6, 2015 Report Posted April 6, 2015 Palestinians flee Damascus camp http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32189636 Would it be illegal for a Canadian to leave the country to join the PLO or the Free Syrian Army fighters in their fight against Assad? How about the PLO's fight against ISIS? How about Assad's fight against the PLO? No it wouldn't - and it's not as confusing as you make it out to be. Those Canadians you speak of would not be expressing support for a group that wants to attack Western countries - to kill all the infidels....etc, etc. . Quote Back to Basics
Moonlight Graham Posted April 6, 2015 Report Posted April 6, 2015 I like how they are trying to pin this as harpers war, when we have very little in it and we are with 60 other countries. No other countries dropping bombs in Syria other than the US and Canada. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
GostHacked Posted April 6, 2015 Report Posted April 6, 2015 No other countries dropping bombs in Syria other than the US and Canada. Turkey. VIA the FSA. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted April 6, 2015 Report Posted April 6, 2015 You bet......Dow Chemical's Montreal plant, just outside of PET's own riding, was one of the largest producers of Vietnam bound napalm.....likewise their production of agent's blue, orange and white, later also tested within Canada, for use in Vietnam. There's no doubt whatsoever that canada has committed war crimes, ones that would, in a sane world, see a number of Canadian PMs and their underlings hung. How can that not spark warm patriotic feelings within, Derek? Quote
Je suis Omar Posted April 6, 2015 Report Posted April 6, 2015 No it wouldn't - and it's not as confusing as you make it out to be. Those Canadians you speak of would not be expressing support for a group that wants to attack Western countries - to kill all the infidels....etc, etc. . Voted the number one meme, ten years running, for brain dead, 'love it or leave it, garwshucks, apple pie loving Americans. Quote
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