Bill C-51: Federal Anti-Terror Legislation polling results

[jacee]

Oh FFS.

You know, it's possible, even desirable, to oppose C-51 on its merits without resorting to this kind of hysterical claptrap.

I think the parallels are quite interesting.

Stalin

"any actions which could be broadly construed to negatively affect the economy in some way"

Harper

"interference with various aspects of public life or "the economic or financial stability of Canada"

Edited March 13, 2015 by jacee

[Shady]

I think the parallels are quite interesting.

Stalin

"any actions which could be broadly construed to negatively affect the economy in some way"

Harper

"interference with various aspects of public life or "the economic or financial stability of Canada"

Harper is definitely Stalin. He might even be Hilter. It's hard to tell yet, but I'm sure he'll show his true colours.

[jacee]

Harper is definitely Stalin. He might even be Hilter. It's hard to tell yet, but I'm sure he'll show his true colours.

I can tell you are thrilled at the prospect.

It'll be Muslim targets not Jews this time eh!

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[eyeball]

Three or four what? Casualties? That's not a major attack, that's a pretty bad car

I was being sarcastic. But seriously...

Hundreds? Highly unlikely. Such an attack would be complex and require a high degree of sophistication and planning and would be difficult to keep quiet. The danger, such as it is, comes from lone wolf types that are unlikely to broadcast their intentions.

Mark my words, millions will be dead including thousands of westerners before there is peace which is unlikely to happen for at least a couple of generations.

As I said not in spite of our present stance but because of it and the deeper we wade into things. Don't get me wrong, we'll need to protect ourselves at home now that we've come this far but if we keeping digging ourselves in deeper the danger will increase.

Edited March 13, 2015 by eyeball

[Shady]

I can tell you are thrilled at the prospect.

It'll be Muslim targets not Jews this time eh!

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Most definitely.

[overthere]

Harper is definitely Stalin. He might even be Hilter. It's hard to tell yet, but I'm sure he'll show his true colours.

I have learned here that he is Satans mentor.

He's using Stalin's playbook.

There will be thousands of jobs created building and staffing the gulags. In Tory ridings of course. Stalin killed at least 20 million people. I don't think Steve is going to get anywhere near that, what do you think is his targeted body count?

Perhaps you need to gain just a teeny tiny bit of perspective when comparing Harper to Stalin. . Optional of course, the offset is the sharp dropoff in sheer entertainment value here.

[Shady]

I have learned here that he is Satans mentor.

There will be thousands of jobs created building and staffing the gulags. In Tory ridings of course. Stalin killed at least 20 million people. I don't think Steve is going to get anywhere near that, what do you think is his targeted body count?

Perhaps you need to gain just a teeny tiny bit of perspective when comparing Harper to Stalin. . Optional of course, the offset is the sharp dropoff in sheer entertainment value here.

I'm not sure what his body count will be. Perhaps Jacee can shed some light on that particular detail. However, Stalin was a communist, so if Harper is Stalin, you'd think they'd be a little happier with him.

[Big Guy]

Listening to Harper speak on the divisive issues and then accusing the opposition of supporting terrorists I thought I heard that before. I did some research and I did find the reference:

"You are either with us or you are with the terrorists". Sound familiar?

It was George Bush, 2001 addressing the American Congress.

Now there is the kind of leadership we should be emulating!?!

[Shady]

Listening to Harper speak on the divisive issues and then accusing the opposition of supporting terrorists I thought I heard that before. I did some research and I did find the reference:

"You are either with us or you are with the terrorists". Sound familiar?

It was George Bush, 2001 addressing the American Congress.

Now there is the kind of leadership we should be emulating!?!

Could be from Obama accusing Republicans of aiding the Iranian leaders. Oh right, but it only matters when a conservative says it. I forgot.

[poochy]

I have learned here that he is Satans mentor.

There will be thousands of jobs created building and staffing the gulags. In Tory ridings of course. Stalin killed at least 20 million people. I don't think Steve is going to get anywhere near that, what do you think is his targeted body count?

Perhaps you need to gain just a teeny tiny bit of perspective when comparing Harper to Stalin. . Optional of course, the offset is the sharp dropoff in sheer entertainment value here.

You're asking these people for some perspective? These people are not well, they need help.

[On Guard for Thee]

You're asking these people for some perspective? These people are not well, they need help.

Ha ha. Pretty obvious who needs help here.

[Charles Anthony]

Guys,

Stop the personal attacks.

Ch. A.

[Bob Macadoo]

Could be from Obama accusing Republicans of aiding the Iranian leaders. Oh right, but it only matters when a conservative says it. I forgot.

Where again did Obama say the senators were with the Iranians? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think he called them "treasonous", but I know you track Obama's every word so please help me.

[Shady]

Where again did Obama say the senators were with the Iranians? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think he called them "treasonous", but I know you track Obama's every word so please help me.

Right here, watch him for yourself, you don't even have to take my word for it. Although I'm sure you'll have some excuse for him. If you're not with him, you're in common cause with the Iranian "hardliners".

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/03/09/obama_ironic_that_republicans_have_common_cause_with_iranian_hardliners.html

[GostHacked]

Let's deal with Canada here folks. That's what this thread is about.

[Bob Macadoo]

If you're not with him, you're in common cause with the Iranian "hardliners".

I believe the difference was lost on you. If you are against him as opposed to not with him (which is what the letter was) you are in common cause (as they are against Obama too).

I personally like this one better;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/13/obama-iran-letter_n_6864134.html?utm_hp_ref=canada&ir=Canada

[Big Guy]

The idea that you are either with us or against us is a good political ploy painting any opposition as either criminal or immoral. It is an attempt to stifle dissent. It works in many cases although sometimes it backfires:

Regarding surveillance Bill C-30 - Those commenting on the bill "... can either stand with us or with the child pornographers". The Minister of Public Safety at the time, Vic Toews, got his knuckles wrapped for that one.

This is a common theme with this government.

[Shady]

I believe the difference was lost on you. If you are against him as opposed to not with him (which is what the letter was) you are in common cause (as they are against Obama too).

I personally like this one better;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/13/obama-iran-letter_n_6864134.html?utm_hp_ref=canada&ir=Canada

There is no difference. You're being intellectually dishonest. One could say the same for the anti-terror legislation. Those that oppose it are in common cause with the terrorists, who also oppose this legislation, because it makes their jobs more difficult. You are in common cause with folks like Al Qaeda. See how that works.

[eyeball]

Normally when the authorities identify someone they suspect is with a terrorist group they are investigated, arrested and charged.

If you want to see how it eventually works when a government starts mischaracterizing millions of its own citizen's as sympathizers and terrorists...go pick up a history book.

[GostHacked]

There is no difference. You're being intellectually dishonest. One could say the same for the anti-terror legislation. Those that oppose it are in common cause with the terrorists, who also oppose this legislation, because it makes their jobs more difficult. You are in common cause with folks like Al Qaeda. See how that works.

That's how it's been working for about a decade and a half. The propaganda ran it's course and partisan hacks are still towing that line. If you support this bill you are against the rights and privacy of Canadians. All while claiming you love living in this 'democracy'.

[Shady]

That's how it's been working for about a decade and a half. The propaganda ran it's course and partisan hacks are still towing that line. If you support this bill you are against the rights and privacy of Canadians. All while claiming you love living in this 'democracy'.

Yes, I agree, partisan hacks may feel that way.

[On Guard for Thee]

There is no difference. You're being intellectually dishonest. One could say the same for the anti-terror legislation. Those that oppose it are in common cause with the terrorists, who also oppose this legislation, because it makes their jobs more difficult. You are in common cause with folks like Al Qaeda. See how that works.

Lets see if I have your logic correct here...so if I prefer to support the constitution rather than this bill, Im a terrorist....

[GostHacked]

Yes, I agree, partisan hacks may feel that way.

I believe you have proved time and time again, that partisan hacks do indeed feel that way.

[Shady]

Lets see if I have your logic correct here...so if I prefer to support the constitution rather than this bill, Im a terrorist....

No, that's not my logic. I was making a point.

[Shady]

I believe you have proved time and time again, that partisan hacks do indeed feel that way.

I'm not sure what I have to do with this, since I've never suggested anything of that sort.