Big Guy Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) It has just been announced on CTV that Harper has shifted chairs in his Cabinet. Nicholson is going to Foreign Affairs filling in for Baird and Kenney is going to Defence. Lots of action in Ottawa this morning. I wonder if this is a coincidence or planned by the back room boys. Edited February 9, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Derek 2.0 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 Not too surprised, I had heard Ambrose to Foreign Affairs and Kenny replacing her at Health……..none the less, glad to see Kenny got a deserved promotion and I don’t doubt, based on his past portfolios, that he’ll continue to excel at his new position. Likewise, his rising prominence and influence within both the Party and Cabinet will translate into much needed reforms at DND via his ability (with his positive relationship with the Prime Minister) to shape and direct Government legislation……. I think this, long term, will further cement his positioning as the eventual leader of the Tories. Quote
Big Guy Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) I agree that Kenney is the "fixit" guy and is very good at it. He has been very successful in every portfolio that has been assigned to him. He is an astute politician and a very loyal Conservative. I believe that his loyalty will be a hindrance because I think the Conservatives will be moving towards the center after Harper leaves - like everyone ran away from Harris after he left Ontario. If I am correct then Peter McKay will come to the front (if he can shake the "traitor" label by selling out the old party) and Jim Prentice will be looking back towards federal politics. Also - Remember that many years ago, Jean Charest was promised the big job after he was sent to Quebec to calm things down over there. There are still a lot of the old Conservatives that wield some formidable back room power. Edited February 9, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Topaz Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 Pierre Poilievre as the new EI minister....wow! I feel sorry for those who have lost their jobs. Quote
Argus Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 Pierre Poilievre as the new EI minister....wow! I feel sorry for those who have lost their jobs. He can be counted on to do EXACTLY what he is told to do. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Derek 2.0 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 I agree that Kenney is the "fixit" guy and is very good at it. He has been very successful in every portfolio that has been assigned to him. He is an astute politician and a very loyal Conservative. I believe that his loyalty will be a hindrance because I think the Conservatives will be moving towards the center after Harper leaves - like everyone ran away from Harris after he left Ontario. If I am correct then Peter McKay will come to the front (if he can shake the "traitor" label by selling out the old party) and Jim Prentice will be looking back towards federal politics. Also - Remember that many years ago, Jean Charest was promised the big job after he was sent to Quebec to calm things down over there. There are still a lot of the old Conservatives that wield some formidable back room power. The party has moved to the center under Harper, and is why they currently have a majority Government and will win another majority this fall……..as much as I like Mackay, he doesn’t have enough support within the Party to ever win the nomination……Jim Prentice is older than the Prime Minister, so is far from the Parties future………In my opinion, as a member of the Party, the probable potential future leaders, in order of probability: Kenny, Raitt (dependent upon her health), Chris Alexander, James Moore and Erin O’Toole……. Quote
Topaz Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Wouldn't you say that Kenney is the only one that is the same thinking as Harper, the rest are more Progressive Conservatives, were Kenney is more reformer-alliance-conservative. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 The party has moved to the center under Harper, and is why they currently have a majority Government and will win another majority this fall… Another CPC majority? Maybe against Ignatieff & Layton, but no way against his lord and saviour Mr. Blue Eyes. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Kenney, IMO, was an absolute disaster as Minister of Citizenship/Immigration. Horrible policy coming out of that man. I haven't followed him much as Minister of Employment & Social Development. Kenney as Defence Minister makes me fear for this country. Kenney is popular among conservatives, but I don't know if he's very electable as the hailed "future leader". Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Derek 2.0 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Another CPC majority? Maybe against Ignatieff & Layton, but no way against his lord and saviour Mr. Blue Eyes. Without a doubt and as I've been "predicting" for several years (even when polls last Summer showed a likely Liberal Majority)........As I've said, an increase in seats, but a smaller majority by percentage in the 175-180 seat range. With the new seats, the math now for the Tories would see a requirement for 35-36% to win a slim majority. If you put stock in polls, the Liberals and Tories are trending in differing directions, with the Tories currently around 33-34% support. Its really a mater of opinion and we shall see this Fall......I fully expect a year from now, we'll all be talking about the Harper Governments next budget Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Kenney, IMO, was an absolute disaster as Minister of Citizenship/Immigration. Horrible policy coming out of that man. I haven't followed him much as Minister of Employment & Social Development. Kenney as Defence Minister makes me fear for this country. Kenney is popular among conservatives, but I don't know if he's very electable as the hailed "future leader". Of course that's subjective. What makes you fear for this country with Kenny at DND? People also thought Harper wasn't electable, with pockets full of hidden agendas.... Quote
jacee Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Kenney, IMO, was an absolute disaster as Minister of Citizenship/Immigration. Horrible policy coming out of that man.There is no policy out of Ottawa but Harper policy. There is no speak but HarperSpeak. Quote
Topaz Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Harper had help from the IRI apparently, the international republican institute, (US) help parties in countries around the world get elected and that who his "friends" are. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 I like the Kenney appointment - he does good work wherever he goes and is an open, straight-forward communicator. He took action on the immigration file where others have been too faint-hearted to. I'll have to hold judgement back on Nicholson - especially since he is not fluently bi-lingual. It's a tough file because you can easily "put your foot in it". Baird was managing nicely so they are tough shoes to fill. All told though, things should keep moving forward. Quote Back to Basics
PIK Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Nice to see that some one that only speaks English can still get a good job like that. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 If anyone has a hidden agenda it will be trudeau to try and out do SR. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
On Guard for Thee Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Without a doubt and as I've been "predicting" for several years (even when polls last Summer showed a likely Liberal Majority)........As I've said, an increase in seats, but a smaller majority by percentage in the 175-180 seat range. With the new seats, the math now for the Tories would see a requirement for 35-36% to win a slim majority. If you put stock in polls, the Liberals and Tories are trending in differing directions, with the Tories currently around 33-34% support. Its really a mater of opinion and we shall see this Fall......I fully expect a year from now, we'll all be talking about the Harper Governments next budget Not a chance. If and when they get around to tabling this budget and we see they are still wallowing us in debt and deficit, their promises of transparency are already a joke, and who knows, maybe a few more departures or floor crossings, those polls will be heading right back where they belong. Bye bye Harper. Quote
Argus Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Kenney, IMO, was an absolute disaster as Minister of Citizenship/Immigration. Horrible policy coming out of that man. Kenney got raves from almost everyone during his time as Minister there. He made a number of good reforms, though not nearly as many as I would have liked. Why would you say he was a disaster? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Harper had help from the IRI apparently, the international republican institute, (US) help parties in countries around the world get elected and that who his "friends" are. Don't forget the stonemasons! And the international Jewish conspiracy! Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Topaz Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 The coffee shop talk is that the election is going to be in April or May, right after the budget comes down and that will be their platform. Thoughts? Quote
Smallc Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 The coffee shop talk is that the election is going to be in April or May, right after the budget comes down and that will be their platform. Thoughts? Because coffee talk always tells us what will happen. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 The coffee shop talk is that the election is going to be in April or May, right after the budget comes down and that will be their platform. Thoughts? I think we can guess what the next budget will look like, and if I had Harpers record of budgets I would hesitate to use it as my platform. Mind you, what else has he got. Quote
eyeball Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Fear, terrorism, war...what more does he need? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
On Guard for Thee Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 He is certainly flogging all of those, and some are buying it. Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 I had my local Consevative Riding Assoc call me last night. "Can he count on your support in the election?" -- "Why, is there an early election?" -- "No sir (stammering)..ummm.." -- "I would find it a betrayal if he called an early election." -- "Would we lose your support in that case?" -- "Did you already count me as giving it?" Ha ha....what a farce. Quote
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