Conservative Eve Adams crosses the floor to Liberals

Boges · February 9, 2015

Im well aware of her baggage and we shall see how well this move works for JT. What I got from her statements wasnt so much that Harper was mean to her specifically, just bullying within the party in general, which has shown up in the news before.

Yeah because she'd admit she was a pariah in the CPC now. :rolleyes:

On Guard for Thee · February 9, 2015

Income splitting is one of those issues where most people are 'meh' and even if they don't really think much of it don't really see it as affecting them.

For those it DOES effect, it will be a huge issue and it will change votes.

Perhaps realizing how much of the proposed surplus the thing chews up and how so many of us are going to have to pony up to benefit so few, may also change votes.

cybercoma · February 9, 2015

I listen to her this morning and was starting to change my mind until she was ask what her boyfriend thoughts of her changing parties and she said her family is supporting her but the media kept asking about the boyfriend's thoughts and she wouldn't answer...why? It's not a good thing to have one person a Liberal and another a Conservative member, which the party better watch these two.

Soudas said on Twitter that he fully supports her.

Big Guy · February 9, 2015

Well, it looks like the cheerleaders for both sides are jumping into the fray trying to put whatever spin they can come up with. What bothers me is that the cynicism that these kinds of moves elicit in the public. Those in the voting public who are outraged or disappointed with these floor crossings become a non voting public.

When you see a leader in the house make some kind of point and the rest of his caucus stands up behind him clapping enthusiastically you begin to wonder what they are thinking. You begin to wonder that if these folks can be so phoney about their actions in the house just how phoney can they be in representing you.

For every three stripes that we tear off a particular political party for some obvious piece of mischief we tear one stripe off our respect for democracy.

BTW - Dimitri Soudas has just announced that he will now be "working with" the Liberal Party of Canada. This is a "two person" deal.

While one party may feel it gains something temporary during a floor crossing they all lose some of their credibility.

The_Squid · February 9, 2015

Yeah because she'd admit she was a pariah in the CPC now.

This plays right into Harper's hands.... "The CPC held her to account for the dirty dealings. And when she found out the CPC was getting rid of her, she joined the Liberal Party. Up until 2 weeks ago, she supported Harper. Now she calls him mean"

That's a very easy spin... totally negates any benefit the Liberals were going to get from this.

If I was a Liberal supporter, I wouldn't like them taking Conservative cast-offs that were too corrupt for that party...

cybercoma · February 9, 2015

Yes.

I'm often annoyed at important press conferences when reporters won't shut up about Laureen.

cybercoma · February 9, 2015

She did not leave because harper was a bully, she got told last week she will never run as a conservative again. And the fact ,if she runs as a liberal and loses she will receive 80g's as a severance. Bad move on JT's part.

If she's such a problem why did Harper have her as a Parliamentary Secretary when he woke up this morning?

cybercoma · February 9, 2015

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/eve-adams-former-conservative-mp-joins-liberal-party-1.2950048

If the Conservatives produce this letter, her credibility is shot. She jumped ship because she was being held to account for her backroom, dirty political dealings; and now she's a Liberal.

The Liberals shouldn't have gone near her with a 10 foot pole!

Once again, they still had her in a role above the backbenchers as a Parliamentary Secretary. What does that say? Those backroom dealings happened well before that. She even remained as a Parliamentary Secretary after she throw her temper tantrum at the gas station. They can paint her in as negative a light as they want, but the moment they say she has been a long-term problem, you have to question Harper's judgment in promoting her to a Parliamentary Secretary and keeping her there, despite all of these problems they claim were ongoing.

PIK · February 9, 2015

Why was she told that she can't run for the party anywhere in Canada? She told a bunch of lies today, she will fit in with the liberals.

Edited February 9, 2015 by PIK

On Guard for Thee · February 9, 2015

Why was she told that she can't run for the party anywhere in Canada? She told a bunch of lies today, she will fit in with the liberals.

Well if shes a liar, she certainly learned at the feet of a master.

guyser · February 9, 2015

This plays right into Harper's hands.... "The CPC held her to account for the dirty dealings. And when she found out the CPC was getting rid of her, she joined the Liberal Party. Up until 2 weeks ago, she supported Harper. Now she calls him mean"

That's a very easy spin... totally negates any benefit the Liberals were going to get from this.

If I was a Liberal supporter, I wouldn't like them taking Conservative cast-offs that were too corrupt for that party...

Well said

The_Squid · February 9, 2015

Once again, they still had her in a role above the backbenchers as a Parliamentary Secretary. What does that say? Those backroom dealings happened well before that. She even remained as a Parliamentary Secretary after she throw her temper tantrum at the gas station. They can paint her in as negative a light as they want, but the moment they say she has been a long-term problem, you have to question Harper's judgment in promoting her to a Parliamentary Secretary and keeping her there, despite all of these problems they claim were ongoing.

People aren't going to see that nuance... I see the contradiction, and I wouldn't be surprised if they lied about not letting her run next election, but the CPC will play up that she was being booted, is dishonest, and is now a Liberal.

If she is to have any credibility, she will have to produce something that says the CPC wanted her to run in the next election but that she has taken a principled stand. I don't think she will be able to do that. I doubt she is a principled person.

webc5 · February 9, 2015

Maybe the Liberals think it's a good move to take her?

ReeferMadness · February 9, 2015

Another rat runs from the nest. The more I see of Trudeau in action, the more disillusioned I become. The only thing that buoys my spirits is we have nowhere to go but up. Even if Trudeau turns out to be a backroom-dealing, low-integrity, flip-flopping airhead, he would still be so far above Harper that I would be relieved to see him as PM.

ReeferMadness · February 9, 2015

People aren't going to see that nuance... I see the contradiction, and I wouldn't be surprised if they lied about not letting her run next election, but the CPC will play up that she was being booted, is dishonest, and is now a Liberal.

If she is to have any credibility, she will have to produce something that says the CPC wanted her to run in the next election but that she has taken a principled stand. I don't think she will be able to do that. I doubt she is a principled person.

I wouldn't surprised to learn that she has as many stories to tell about the CPC as they have about her. Might be some mutually assured destruction that keeps all of the dirty stories from coming out.

Bob Macadoo · February 9, 2015

You know you all assume she'll be parachuted in......it really could be open you know.

In any case I think BG was right, it has nothing to do with her and everything to do with the Backroom Wunderkind. She's a face...whoopdeedo....he's the prize unfortunately. Goes to show its all a sham......one suit the same as the other.....Conservatives would welcome Kinsella if it garnered votes.

On Guard for Thee · February 9, 2015

I wouldn't surprised to learn that she has as many stories to tell about the CPC as they have about her. Might be some mutually assured destruction that keeps all of the dirty stories from coming out.

Ill bet she does.

Topaz · February 10, 2015

Some of the Tory MP's were giving their views of her leaving online and Soudas came back and said, you do want to after her because I KNOW many things about the party.

The_Squid · February 10, 2015

Some of the Tory MP's were giving their views of her leaving online and Soudas came back and said, you do want to after her because I KNOW many things about the party.

But so what?? Disgruntled politicians who were being turfed are not very believable... If they came out a few years ago because they knew what their gov't was doing was wrong, then people might be inclined to believe them.

As it is, the CPC actually comes off looking like they were smart to run these two out of the party... and Trudeau looks like an idiot for taking them in.

Edited February 10, 2015 by The_Squid

ReeferMadness · February 10, 2015

That's your story. Time will tell.

jacee · February 10, 2015

Some of the Tory MP's were giving their views of her leaving online and Soudas came back and said, you do want to after her because I KNOW many things about the party.

Ooooo!

Where's that?

Does he know about the robocalls?

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Moonlight Graham · February 10, 2015

Eve Adams just did the old "dance across the floor" to the Liberals. Did Justin do a smart thing accepting her?

Might have something to do with the latest cabinet shuffle. Maybe she didn't get whatever post she was aiming for, or maybe she was even "shuffled out" of the CPC with the coming election in sight, Lots of changed in CPC land lately.

Topaz · February 10, 2015

I just read online on another forum that Soudas is coming out with a book in May, could the election come in April?

Keepitsimple · February 10, 2015

The interesting part is that Adams still needs to be allowed to seek a nomination - and then she has to win the nomination - unless Trudeau again autocratically appoints her. That process will be facinating - I don't see any GTA riding openly embracing a woman who has been proven to be a trickster.