eyeball Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 So it's a brand new day and Brave New World in Canada. Canadians have been galvanized, the government emboldened and the police empowered, to stop Jihadists and their supporters in their tracks and to keep our children and communities safe. I can only assume the NDP is being rounded up and frog marched into an interrogation room as we speak. Seriously though, I wonder how many Canadians will take up the challenge to push the envelope on what constitutes radicalizing language? I suspect some of the stuff that gets said around here and on other forums is certainly regarded as support for terror simply because it mocks the state and it's efforts and even accuses it's efforts as being the cause of terror. That said and given the way Harper is really pushing for greater Canadian interference in the west's depredations in ME we'll probably see even more galvanizing events soon, except you know, the real McCoy. I'm surprised the Harper Government doesn't slap an Economic Action Plan sticker on his new anti-terror bill because the future looks really bright for being a cop or other agent of the state's power in Canada. I hate our government's freedom, I really do. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
On Guard for Thee Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 I think the bill is to be tabled today but I have heard one news report claiming there have been leaks and some of the "legal beagles" are saying that it will run afoul of the charter. So I suppose once again a load of tax dollars will get spent putting Harper and co. back in their place. Quote
Shady Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 Can you please provide some kind of reference that you're referring to in your rant? Quote
eyeball Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 Can you please provide some kind of reference that you're referring to in your rant? Yeah...turn your TV on. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
guyser Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 Yeah...turn your TV on.LOL Maybe they could call the SCC and ask.......nah, wtf would those folks at the Supreme Court know. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 It appears the Liberals will support the new anti-terror legislation on condition: On Wednesday, Easter said the Liberals remain "very open to what the government will propose." ---- But the Liberals have a "serious caveat on this bill," he said, "and that is that there needs to be proper oversight of security agencies." Without it, Easter said privacy rights could too easily be breached. I suppose the Liberals are understanding that most Canadian voters actually do support action against terror....... Quote
eyeball Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 They're probably afraid of being rounded up with the NDP. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
PIK Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 And at least harper is not afraid to call a spade a spade. No self censoring like the left and even obama government. This is a great bill to ensure we are protected. Now let the crying begin. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Derek 2.0 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 They're probably afraid of being rounded up with the NDP. Right, all the more reason for the anti-Harper crowd to get out and vote NDP...... Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 Can you please provide some kind of reference that you're referring to in your rant? Can you please provide some kind of reference that you're referring to in your rant? Let's let the bill be fully tabled first. I suppose it will be another one of these omnibus monstrocities, but you could start by looking how many times Harper has already butted heads with the SC, and lost of course. Quote
PIK Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 Matthew fisher has a great article out, about how the left has it's collective head in the sand. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Shady Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 Yeah...turn your TV on. I don't come on to this forum to watch television. That's not how the forum works. If you post something, you're suppose to provide a link. Why is this such a difficult concept for some of you to understand? Quote
eyeball Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 Matthew fisher has a great article out, about how the left has it's collective head in the sand. Better than the smelly place the right has planted it's head but there's no doubt political opposition to Harper is as lame as it gets. Thank God we have the SCC to save us...at least until it get's rounded up. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 I don't come on to this forum to watch television. That's not how the forum works. If you post something, you're suppose to provide a link. Why is this such a difficult concept for some of you to understand? It's more fun watching pedants piss themselves in indignation. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) It appears the Liberals will support the new anti-terror legislation on condition: I suppose the Liberals are understanding that most Canadian voters actually do support action against terror....... Do we support action against the promotion of terror, against anyone who stands with it, as Harper has clearly indicated the NDP does? Edited January 30, 2015 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 If I say "Canada has it coming", is that promotion or just an opinion? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Derek 2.0 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 Do we support action against the promotion of terror, against anyone who stands with it, as Harper has clearly indicated the NDP does? I don't know.....I was just surprised that these Liberals are open to.......of course, the prior Liberal Governments had no problem bringing in anti-terror legislation post 9/11. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 If I say "Canada has it coming", is that promotion or just an opinion? Stick your head out the window and listen for a high pitch buzz of a drone.......the black choppers are on whisper mode mind you though Quote
eyeball Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 Stick your head out the window and listen for a high pitch buzz of a drone.......the black choppers are on whisper mode mind you though Why wouldn't they just openly kick your doors down and drag you into the street? To listen to you put it most of your neighbours will be out there cheering on the police. I fail to see why the government wouldn't want Canadians to see and hear all the action it's taking to keep them safe. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 I don't know.....I was just surprised that these Liberals are open to.......of course, the prior Liberal Governments had no problem bringing in anti-terror legislation post 9/11. I'm not really surprised at all. Judging by the number of local policy issues that I've seen Liberals loudly criticize when Conservatives were in power that they turned around and pushed when they were in power and vise versa - the difference where the state's rubber hits the road is pretty negligible. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Derek 2.0 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 Why wouldn't they just openly kick your doors down and drag you into the street? To listen to you put it most of your neighbours will be out there cheering on the police. I fail to see why the government wouldn't want Canadians to see and hear all the action it's taking to keep them safe. Operational security I should think........they don't want all the would terrorist supporters knowing their fancy tricks.... Quote
Big Guy Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 The more and more security then the less and less privacy and freedom. The question becomes, when is the proper balance reached. Those on the far right feel it has yet to be achieved for Canada with more security yet required. Those on the far left feel that we have enough security and that freedoms and privacy have already been breached. Personally, I would like to see a two year sunset clause on any of this new legislation. While currently it is another far left vs far right ideological debate - remember the past. I remember when that well known (far right wing ) Liberal Prime Minister invoked the War Measures Act in 1970. The opposition - especially the Progressive Conservatives thought it was an over reaction and pilloried Trudeau for the move. The more things change the more they stay the same. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
On Guard for Thee Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 The opposition has called for a sunset clause, but of course Harper has the bully power to shove it through. Hopefully the sunset clause will be administered by the SC. Quote
eyeball Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 Is the SCC running in the next election by any chance? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
PIK Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 If the NDP or liberals had their way, we would be reporting on every move our SF make. Time of day and where they are. Might as well put out their pics and home addresses. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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