Argus Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 Right. Because no Christians have ever disowned family members for turning away from their faith. Damned few. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smallc Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 The problem isn't Islam: It's extremist religion. Though those things are terrible, they aren't quite on the same level. The only comparison to Islam at current that I can see is Christianity in the Dark Ages. Damned few. They probably aren't very often stoned to death for it either. Quote
The_Squid Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 Though those things are terrible, they aren't quite on the same level. The only comparison to Islam at current that I can see is Christianity in the Dark Ages. So the Christians in Ireland led a peaceful coexistence and never killed each other (TERRORISTS) over religious differences not so long ago? Quote
The_Squid Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 Right. Because no Christians have ever disowned family members for turning away from their faith. That doesn't make it right for either religion to do so. "The Christians do it too" is not an excuse for bad behaviour. Quote
Smallc Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) So the Christians in Ireland led a peaceful coexistence and never killed each other (TERRORISTS) over religious differences not so long ago? Not like this. I'm with Bill Maher on this. All religions are bad. This one is the worst. Edited January 15, 2015 by Smallc Quote
The_Squid Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 Not like this. I'm with Bill Maher on this. All religions are bad. This one is the worst. I don't disagree... but to say Christians are a peaceful bunch ever since the Dark Ages is rather silly when they were bombing each other not so long ago. Quote
Smallc Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 I didn't say that Christians were peaceful. What I'm saying is that Islam is going through its version of the dark ages. When that will end is anyone's guess. Quote
Big Guy Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Posted January 15, 2015 And what about the 9 (I think) Crusades when we went over into those savage lands to bring them closer to our God and their riches back home. Are we in the 10th Crusade? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Shady Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 And what about the 9 (I think) Crusades when we went over into those savage lands to bring them closer to our God and their riches back home. Are we in the 10th Crusade? What are you talking about? Quote
Smallc Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 And what about the 9 (I think) Crusades when we went over into those savage lands to bring them closer to our God and their riches back home. Are we in the 10th Crusade? The first wave of crusades is exactly what I'm talking about. The rest of your post is conspiratorial nonsense. Quote
jacee Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 What are you talking about? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades . Quote
Smallc Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades . So you also believe that we're currently involved in the 10th crusade? Quote
Shady Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades . The crusades were a response to Muslim aggression. So again, what are you talking about? Quote
Argus Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 So the Christians in Ireland led a peaceful coexistence and never killed each other (TERRORISTS) over religious differences not so long ago? Long ago it was about religion. But really, over the past century it was more about politics since the Protestants were all English invaders imported and planted there to guarantee loyalty to the British crown, and the Catholics were all native (historically speaking) to Ireland. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 The first wave of crusades is exactly what I'm talking about. The rest of your post is conspiratorial nonsense. In point of fact, the crusades were launched to defend Christian lands and to take back Christian lands which the Muslims had conquered. There is a lot of ignorance about the crusades on the part of people who don't know any history. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smallc Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 I actually recall that, come to think of it. It's a been a while, and it's not an area I usually study. I guess I should. Quote
Argus Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades . n 1095 Pope Urban II proclaimed the First Crusade with the stated goal of restoring Christian access to holy places in and near Jerusalem. Jerusalem used to be part of the Byzntine Empire, part of the Holy Roman Empire, before being overrun by the Muslims. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
sharkman Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 What does the crusades have to do with Sharia laws regarding women? Nothing, it's just another strawman argument for those unable to think clearly regarding christianity. But do keep going, it's kind of funny to watch the gymnastics! Quote
eyeball Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 n 1095 Pope Urban II proclaimed the First Crusade with the stated goal of restoring Christian access to holy places in and near Jerusalem. Jerusalem used to be part of the Byzntine Empire, part of the Holy Roman Empire, before being overrun by the Muslims. And who did the Byzantine's overrun when the Romans went rogue? This road leads nowhere, history is unfolding in the other direction. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Shady Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 What does the crusades have to do with Sharia laws regarding women? Nothing, it's just another strawman argument for those unable to think clearly regarding christianity. But do keep going, it's kind of funny to watch the gymnastics! Exactly. Somehow a crusade a thousand years ago is relevant to sharia law today. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 Exactly. Somehow a crusade a thousand years ago is relevant to sharia law today. Agreed. This also goes for Muslim practices and cultural issues from that era. Let's leave it behind, there's no way to tie these things to current issues. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
eyeball Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 If history is anything to judge by this agreement will last about 5 minutes. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Argus Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 Agreed. This also goes for Muslim practices and cultural issues from that era. Let's leave it behind, there's no way to tie these things to current issues. If only the Muslims would leave those cultural practices behind... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted January 17, 2015 Report Posted January 17, 2015 That doesn't make it right for either religion to do so. "The Christians do it too" is not an excuse for bad behaviour. Of course it's not right, but it is a point of contention when someone's saying they're uniquely barbaric for this particular reason that's not at all unique to them. Quote
cybercoma Posted January 17, 2015 Report Posted January 17, 2015 If only the Muslims would leave those cultural practices behind... Out of the 1.6 Billion that practice it the vast majority do. But you'd like to keep saying that the work of mad men and wars for political power in unstable regions is somehow unique to them. Quote
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