WWWTT Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Israel is not a signatory to the NPT.....Iran is. Hey look at that, they have something in common with North Korea! The US is also a signatory country. When are inspectors going to check them out? WWWTT Edited July 19, 2015 by WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
GostHacked Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 Ghost you have just proven why the agreement is a farse thanks. As for Israel's nuke capacity lol you really think it is a secret? Really? You think the Soviets did not leak it to their Arab League allies years ago. Come on get real. So will Israel get on board with the NPT and do the right thing and let inspectors to check out Israel's nuclear program? Why not? Regardless of what was leaked to the Arab nations, the west is still really in the dark with regards to their nuclear capacity. But I appreciate the short and concise reply this time. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 Hey look at that, they have something in common with North Korea! The US is also a signatory country. When are inspectors going to check them out? The IAEA has been "checking them out" for decades. Use America's Google...it's free. http://www.state.gov/t/isn/5209.htm Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Rue Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 Israel's nuclear arsenal and capacity is not a secret. Double standard? Lol. Yah sure. Israel finances terrorists world wide and has a charter calling for the exterimination of Muslims world wide for having sharia law states and to turn the world Jewish. Lol double standard. Right. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 Israel's nuclear arsenal and capacity is not a secret. Double standard? Lol. Yah sure. Israel finances terrorists world wide and has a charter calling for the exterimination of Muslims world wide for having sharia law states and to turn the world Jewish. Lol double standard. Right. So where can I find official stats on their nuclear capabilities? Quote
Rue Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 In March of 2015 Obama leaked Israel's nuke info to the press. Its not a secret and never has been. Israel will not confirm or deny in public but behind closed doors the Soviets, Chinese, French and British as well as Americans have known Israel's nuke capacity from the get go. South Africa got its technology from Israel. Germany supplied Dolphin class submarines so it would know. To suggest people do not know Israel's nuke capacity is laughable. Its all over the internet. Lol. shhhhhhh. Quote
Rue Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Where can you find it. Same place you will find it for North Korea, Iran. Russia, China, South Africa, the US, Britain, France, South Africa, Brazil, Pakistan, India. You really want to come on this forum and suggest any of these nations officially disclose details of their military let alone nuke capacity? Lol. Go on keep going. That was brilliant. Edited July 19, 2015 by Rue Quote
WWWTT Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 Israel's nuclear arsenal and capacity is not a secret. Double standard? Man you like laughing at your own jokes hey. Never said their nukes were a secret. I asked when the inspectors WERE GOING TO INSPECT THEIR FACILITIES! And I found out that Israel has something in common with North Korea! Still find THAT funny? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Rue Posted July 20, 2015 Report Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) I was responding to Ghost WWWT not you. As for your equating Israel's foreign policies or its regime or its nuclear intent as thee same as North Korea's no I would not find it funny. I find it ridiculous, stupid, pointless, subjectively bias but funny, probably not. This just in, Israel and NK both have trees and both their peoples go pee pee. You really want to play that pointless game-go on spit it out-Israel is no better than North Korea? Now that is funny considering NK gave Iran its nuke capacity. Please cont. Edited July 20, 2015 by Rue Quote
marcus Posted July 20, 2015 Report Posted July 20, 2015 Israel is not a signatory to the NPT.....Iran is. So if Iran pulls out of the NPT then it's okay for them to whatever they want? Israel, a war mongering state, can be trusted with nukes and Iran can't? The world realizes this hypocrisy and once again you are taking the side of the marginalized war mongering bullies. Something, I'm sure, you take pleasure in. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
WWWTT Posted July 20, 2015 Report Posted July 20, 2015 This just in, Israel and NK both have trees and both their peoples go pee pee. Peeing and growing trees are good examples when comparing countries that refuse the NPT! I don't know if I should or if I should ? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Big Guy Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Posted August 5, 2015 Iran can be the only key to Middle East peace. Israel continues to antagonize Palestinians and Muslims, appropriate land and desecrate Muslim religious sites; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/cafe-opened-jerusalem-islamic-graves-sparks-anger-150805071543769.html Netanyahu is not only stealing land from the Palestinians he allows Israelis to desecrate one of the oldest and largest Muslim graveyards. By showing any kind of support for Israel, Canada is condoning this kind of atrocious behaviour towards Palestinians. We cannot be associated with these kinds of actions. Time to cut all support or sympathy for Israel and look to Iran as our ally in the region. Also time to break the illegal Israeli blockade of Gaza. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 Canada's #1 trading partner and military ally is the United States of America, which also happens to be the biggest supporter and ally of Israel. Good luck with Canada cutting off Israel and becoming Iran's BFF. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
socialist Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 Many Iranians still are fiercely loyal to the Persian culture. I know many good Iranians who are proud of their Persian heritage. However ... this has nothing whatsoever to do with the current totalitarian regime ... with whom Obama has cut a deal, and against whom, when they were hammering down on the populist Green Movement, he had nothing to say. Obama shows himself to be no friend of that ancient (and non-Islamic) culture. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Rue Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Big Guy before you tout Iran go find out how many non Shiite Muslim religious sites it has desecrated. You come on this board with zero reference to back up your latest accusations against Israel and remain silent on the desecrations Iran has engaged in. You also further render your selectivity past a joke to an absurdity by doing it at a time when people have just once again witnessed ISIL kill an innocent man whose crime was being in charge of an ancient site in Syria. For him they cut off his head and put it on a pole but not a word from you. Then to compound your repetitive support Iran piss on Israel chant which you place on the board at least once daily, you now cheer lead calling for people to break the blockade on Gaza. Let's get two things clear. You made it a point to come on this forum. tell everyone how you are a Canadian Legion member and so not a coward when you say Canada should not get involved or send troops, etc. Now not a week or so later you cheer lead people and incite them to endanger their lives in an action that has proven to be pointless and would only make things worse not better for Palestinians. You the man who made it a point to say he is a Legion member and who does not cheer lead military involvement overseas, now does it, but with citizens. You now incite civilians to support Hamas. Is this your role now, to come on this board and recruit people for Hamas? Unbelievable that you would write that after your lectures on the Canadian Armed Forces staying out and who do we think we are going overseas and telling people what to do. Hey now-it appears we should, as long as you define the political cause as acceptable. Lol. Edited August 20, 2015 by Rue Quote
Big Guy Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Posted August 20, 2015 Many Iranians still are fiercely loyal to the Persian culture. I know many good Iranians who are proud of their Persian heritage. However ... this has nothing whatsoever to do with the current totalitarian regime ... with whom Obama has cut a deal, and against whom, when they were hammering down on the populist Green Movement, he had nothing to say. Obama shows himself to be no friend of that ancient (and non-Islamic) culture. The Iranians will do what they think is best for Iran. The Iranian leaders will do what they think is best for Iranians. My interest is that Canadians and Canadian leadership do what is best for Canada. Israel has, and continues to follow policies that are good for Israel but are alienating the rest of the world. To support aggressive and self-serving Israeli policies and actions is bad for Canada. I care about Israel like I care about Rwanda, Albania, Syria, Palestine, Lithuania etc - very little - except when they begin to endanger Canadian relations with the rest of the world. I do note that there appears to be a few posters who place their allegiance to Israel more than to Canada - that is their right. But I have very little use for their opinions. I am Canadian. The Middle East will continue to be in chaos for many years. It is in Canadian interests to look to Iran as a present and future ally and wash our hands of Israel. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Rue Posted August 21, 2015 Report Posted August 21, 2015 You have demonstrated Big Guy once again an agenda dripping with words of intolerance and arrogance that you come on this forum to incite people with your passages to engage in acts side by side terrorists to provoke Israel. Its there for all to see. Your true agenda is out. You call out Canadians to engage in an act of war against Israel by running a naval blockade. It was only a matter of time until your agenda showed itself. You have now stated you care little about Palestine, Rwanda, Albania, Syria and Lithuania. Hey now. Your list of indifference seems to have grown. Hopefully for anyone who did mistake you for a caring humanitarian you sure cleared that up and made it clear you aren't.. So now let's follow your logic. You only piss on Israel because it endangers Canada's relations with others. You only criticize a country id it endangers Canada. But you do support Iran knowing it finances and supports terrorist world-wide, illegally killed a Canadian journalist, engages in crimes against humanity in its own country that has caused thousands to flee including to Canada. Hey now we should form an alliance with Iran because Big Guy feels financing world wide terrorism and Muslime extremist brutality doesn't endanger Canadian relations with others. Of course what a wonderful ally to have that's the way to enhance Canada's reputation-supporting a nation of Muslim extremism that defies every moral value Canada stands for. Yep that makes sense. In fact using your selective criteria and logic, since Israel is the only country in the world that endangers Canadian relations with others, its the only one you will bad mouth but Iran-hey now its a great ally.. Lol. This is not about Canada, its not about Israel, its about you admitting you are anti Israel and trying to justify that hatred as being based on the best interests of Canada and of course you have to make sure to remind people you are Canadian. Big Guy some of us who are "Canadian" believe forming an alliance with Iran, a nation that supports and exports terror would n endanger Canadian relations with the rest of the world. Oh but wait you also stated you have very little use for the opinions of those you disagree with. A couple of things. It must be very disappointing for Albanians, Rwandans, Syrians, Palestininans, and Lithuanians to know they made your list of indifference. What an arrogant and pompous thing to say. Almost as arrogant and presumptuous as your telling people you have little use of their opinions. Now that it is clear what a pompous, indifferent person you are I don't have to bother. By the way A Canadian does not need to say they are. Someone insecure with their identity or concealing it on the other hand would . Quote
Big Guy Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Posted August 21, 2015 Sorry, word counter tells me its over 400 words - I do not read posts of that length. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Big Guy ignore this extremist Zionist , very biased pro-Israeli anti-Iran (or anti whoever who may not have a favorable regards for criminal activities of Israeli regime) ....no matter how many words his posts are. He has lost total credibility on this board with his personal attacks, insults and biased posts and lies. As for Canada restoring relations with Iran, I agree it is in West's interests to restore normal relations with the people of Iran as Iran is now a regional superpower both economically and militarily (as why Israel and his Zionist servants are scared to their death trying to destroy Iran in any way they can). I believe once this secretive, corrupt, scandalist conservative government is kicked out of power by intelligent voters on October 19th as all indications point to that, then the newly elected government will indeed follow other western countries and look out for Canada's interests and restore relations with the people of Iran and will encourage democratic movements in that country. Edited August 21, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Argus Posted August 21, 2015 Report Posted August 21, 2015 The Iranians will do what they think is best for Iran. The Iranian leaders will do what they think is best for Iranians. My interest is that Canadians and Canadian leadership do what is best for Canada. Israel has, and continues to follow policies that are good for Israel but are alienating the rest of the world. To support aggressive and self-serving Israeli policies and actions is bad for Canada. LOL! And you suggest allying ourselves with IRAN instead? Iran the supporter of international terrorism, the international pariah! Despised by most of the world in including much of the Arab world! :lol: Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 21, 2015 Report Posted August 21, 2015 As for Canada restoring relations with Iran, I agree it is in West's interests to restore normal relations with the people of Iran as Iran is now a regional superpower both economically and militarily (as why Israel and his Zionist servants are scared to their death trying to destroy Iran in any way they can). Uh, what? Let me read that part over again.... Israel is trying to destroy Iran because... because Israel and it's "Zionist servants" are scared to their death? Gee, I can see how you'd consider it unreasonable for Israel to be afraid of Iran, given Iran's leaders have repeatedly spoken of their desire to destroy Israel at almost any cost, have funded and equipped terrorist groups to attack Israel, and are working on getting nuclear weapons. Wait, no, I can't, actually. It seems to me that these two nations are separated by geography so that neither needs to fear the other, except that Iran continually attacks Israel, continually makes war on Israel by funding and equipping those who attack them, and continually talks about destroying Israel. And you, in your unbiased righteousness, blame... Israel for this state of affairs? Could you perhaps suggest a logical basis behind your thoughts here? I believe once this secretive, corrupt, scandalist conservative government is kicked out of power by intelligence voters on October 19th Not going to happen. I think you need to hope for a lot of effort from unintelligent voters if you want Harper gone. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
CITIZEN_2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) You don't have to destroy a country by bombs and planes as Israel have been doing with its neighbors for decades now. In fact Israel don't have the guts or the balls or the military power to take such actions when it comes to Iran. They only attack the defenseless and those who cannot fight back. Iran will retaliate if attacked by a massive missile attack on major Israeli cities. I hope neither scenario happen. Israel trying to destroy Iran by lobbying powerful countries into attacking Iran and imposing backbreaking sanctions on Iran for which it has been the defenseless people of Iran who are paying the high price past many years. Even cancer patients were not spared by these crippling sanctions. And now that Iran and G6 have successfully negotiated for a fair peaceful resolution and an agreement then as we have witnessed Israel and its Zionist servants are desperately trying to destroy this agreement and do what they can to keep these crippling sanctions on the poor people of Iran to make life even more miserable and harsher than what it is now. And yes it will happen with intelligent votes by intelligent voters who are fed up with years of secrets and undemocratic bills and scandals and corruptions by former Reform Party members now dressed in sheep's clothing as progressive conservatives. All indications are such. You proven again biased in your posts and illogical by dismissing all recent polls. Edited August 22, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Posted August 21, 2015 ....The Middle East will continue to be in chaos for many years. It is in Canadian interests to look to Iran as a present and future ally and wash our hands of Israel. Reality says otherwise...unlike CIFTA, Canada has no free trade agreement with Iran. Unlike with Israel, Canada manufactures no defense products intended for Iran. Canada's actions to date speak louder than make believe shifts in foreign policy for the region. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Big Guy Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Posted August 21, 2015 Big Guy ignore this extremist Zionist , very biased pro-Israeli anti-Iran (or anti whoever who may not have a favorable regards for criminal activities of Israeli regime) ....no matter how many words his posts are. He has lost total credibility on this board with his personal attacks, insults and biased posts and lies. As for Canada restoring relations with Iran, I agree it is in West's interests to restore normal relations with the people of Iran as Iran is now a regional superpower both economically and militarily (as why Israel and his Zionist servants are scared to their death trying to destroy Iran in any way they can). I believe once this secretive, corrupt, scandalist conservative government is kicked out of power by intelligent voters on October 19th as all indications point to that, then the newly elected government will indeed follow other western countries and look out for Canada's interests and restore relations with the people of Iran and will encourage democratic movements in that country. Thank you for the advice but it is obvious that the poster is very passionate about the subject and takes it very personally. I understand his irritability and have no doubt that others feel the same way. His accusations and name calling can become an irritant but I am getting used to them and am starting to find them humorous. So be it. I still believe that facts are facts. Israeli policies are the cause of much of the turmoil in the Middle East - that is not contested. I believe in the Israeli right to do what it thinks is best for Israel - but I also believe that Canada does not have to accept the consequences of what the Israelis did, do and will do. We do need some influence in the region and I believe that Iran is the future overwhelming power in the Middle East. I also believe that Canada should wash its hands of Israel and no longer become an apologist for the illegal, immoral and outrageous treatment of the Palestinians and especially those in Gaza. There are many, including some on this board, who will reiterate anti-Iranian talking points without questioning them or their origin. I also believe that there will be an eventual inevitable confrontation between Israel and Iran. If/when this happens, Canada should not be backing Israel. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Posted August 23, 2015 Larry Cohler-Esses is an assistant managing editor of the Jewish publication “Forward”. He was one of the only openly pro-Jewish reporters allowed enyrt to and fee reign in Iran. http://forward.com/news/318930/a-jewish-journalists-exclusive-look-inside-iran/ He has some interesting observations about how many Jews are in Iran and how they are treated. He was on the Fareed Zakaria CNN “GPS” show this morning. I found it very interesting and telling that he felt the Iranian leadership had nothing against Jews. It had no use for the Zionists which Iran feels are now running Israel. Perhaps there is hope that the moderates take power and the extremists will not be allowed to take Israel into self-innihilation. Until that time, Canada should look after its own interests and wash its hands of the problems that Israel has been creating around the world. Iran appears to be the inevitable growing leader in the Middle East and it is time for Canada to make inroads with that country. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
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