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So the first witness bombed. She recalled that Ghomeshi had a VW Beetle when the assault went down. Apparently he didn't own that car at the time.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-trial-charges-sexual-assault-1.3418856

During cross-examination, Henein challenged key details of the woman's testimony.

The defence lawyer said that Ghomeshi did not have a Volkswagen Beetle at the time of their meeting but did have a GTI (Volkswagen Golf) and that Ghomeshi purchased the Beetle "months and months" after their meeting.

The witness said she had a recollection of a bright yellow car that looked like a Beetle.

Henein also questioned the witness about two interviews she gave to the CBC where she failed to mention that she and Ghomeshi had been kissing before he allegedly pulled her hair the first time in his car.

"That was a lie," Henein said.

"That was not a lie," the witness said, adding that she was nervous during the interviews, that getting into all the details was embarrassing and she wasn't sure of the memory of kissing at that time.

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I'm predicting Ghomeshi walks away from this one. He has a powerful lawyer when it comes to these kinds of cases and the deck is already stacked against victims in these circumstances.

Stacked in what way?

Either the Crown has sufficient evidence to convict, or they do not.

Or have you decided the case based on.......???

Science too hard for you? Try religion!

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Stacked in what way?

Either the Crown has sufficient evidence to convict, or they do not.

Or have you decided the case based on.......???

The point is that sexual assault cases do not have a high conviction rate. It will be interesting to see how this case unfolds.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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The point is that sexual assault cases do not have a high conviction rate. It will be interesting to see how this case unfolds.

This case doesn't seem to be going well for the accusers.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


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This case doesn't seem to be going well for the accusers.

There has only been one accuser take the stand so far.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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There has only been one accuser take the stand so far.

This case doesn't seem to be going well for the accusers....so far!

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


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This case doesn't seem to be going well for the accusers....so far!

Maybe you mean it's going well for the defendant.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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Maybe you mean it's going well for the defendant.

No! The defendant isn't doing anything extraordinary, the story just isn't adding up. It's the accuser doing poorly rather than the defence doing well.

He may be a seed and a degenerate, but in your heart of hearts could you really believe this woman was abused...and was feeling scared? To me, she just looks like a jilted lover. Trying to contact him at 3AM? What? Is she looking for a booty call?

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


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No! The defendant isn't doing anything extraordinary, the story just isn't adding up. It's the accuser doing poorly rather than the defence doing well.

He may be a seed and a degenerate, but in your heart of hearts could you really believe this woman was abused...and was feeling scared? To me, she just looks like a jilted lover. Trying to contact him at 3AM? What? Is she looking for a booty call?

I won't post an opinion until all the facts are in. I initially defended him until women started crawling out of the woodwork. I won't make that mistake again.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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What do mean, you won't make that mistake again? Your initial reaction was that it was a jilted ex, and it seems to me that your intuition was probably right.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


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What do mean, you won't make that mistake again? Your initial reaction was that it was a jilted ex, and it seems to me that your intuition was probably right.

Not at all. Are you crazy?

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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Not at all. Are you crazy?

From post #2 were supportive of ghomeshi. What made you think he was a sex offender and not just a sex freak?

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


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From post #2 were supportive of ghomeshi. What made you think he was a sex offender and not just a sex freak?

I'm waiting for facts and the case to unfold. Sorry. I can't give more than that.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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It was quite simply a vengeful ex-gf. Bedroom activities should be private. She was a vengeful ex, plain and simple.

I know you don't want to hear, but I think you might be right.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


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I know you don't want to hear, but I think you might be right.

Wow. You actually used the search feature on my responses. Cool. I'm honoured.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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The point is that sexual assault cases do not have a high conviction rate. It will be interesting to see how this case unfolds.

Generalizations do not apply to specific cases, or specific lives.

If the Crown has the evidence to convict, I am entirely ready to accept that. If they don't , he is set free.

I don't care what the crime is, who the accused is, or who are his accusers, that is how it works in this country.

Science too hard for you? Try religion!

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Your initial reaction was that it was a jilted ex, and it seems to me that your intuition was probably right.

Why do you say that? The ex he said was jilted isn't among the accusers.
"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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What do mean, you won't make that mistake again? Your initial reaction was that it was a jilted ex, and it seems to me that your intuition was probably right.

What are you talking about.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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Generalizations do not apply to specific cases, or specific lives.

If the Crown has the evidence to convict, I am entirely ready to accept that. If they don't , he is set free.

I don't care what the crime is, who the accused is, or who are his accusers, that is how it works in this country.

Justice doesn't care who's guilty or innocent. It's all about the legal representation.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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Apparently the next "accuser" sent him flowers days after the "alleged" assault. :rolleyes:

...and Armani underwear.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


Posted

Justice doesn't care who's guilty or innocent. It's all about the legal representation.

The Crown has a specific duty assigned to it in the adminstartion of justice. One of those things is to bring charges against those they think are guilty of crimes, so yes they do care about guilt and innocence.

The burden of proof is no less or greater in sexual assault cases than in any others.

The Crown has to present evidence that proves guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

With the first witness, it sounds lie the police failed to interview the accuser in any depth, and the Crown went to trial ill prepared on that weak interview..

So yes, we the people have been poorly represented.

Science too hard for you? Try religion!

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