waldo Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 I'm not going change how I live my life one bit but people in charge should take these events very seriously and act accordingly. These were NOT! Isolated events. you've now (twice) directly asserted linkage between the 2 soldier deaths... what's the exact linkage, the specific linkage, you keep speaking to? Quote
Boges Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) you've now (twice) directly asserted linkage between the 2 soldier deaths... what's the exact linkage, the specific linkage, you keep speaking to? I believe I did hear that they were following each other on Twitter, not confirmed though. But the similarities are obvious. Both French Canadian, Both recent converts, Both having had their passports recently pulled, Both on a CSIS watch list, Both targeting members of the military, Both doing appear to be following marching orders from ISIS. Is it a complete reach to think that there are more people that are looking to do the exact same things as these two? Edited October 23, 2014 by Boges Quote
waldo Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Way to suck all the fun out of this forum sometimes. oh my! My bad... you were just funning! Go ply your BS somewhere else, hey! Quote
waldo Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 I believe ... not confirmed though... appear to be... that sir, is linkage! Both French Canadians too! Quote
The_Squid Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 He waited a respectful amount of time after Harper, otherwise it would look like he was trying to upstage him, or rebut him. This is faux rage. Quote
PIK Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Today was the beginning of the end of any real chance Justin had of winning in the next federal election.He is only the leader of the 3rd party.Was he In house yesterday. Not the time for nitpicking, we can do that later. Edited October 23, 2014 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
waldo Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 He waited a respectful amount of time after Harper, otherwise it would look like he was trying to upstage him, or rebut him. This is faux rage. of course there's the other side of partisan hackery... those claiming Harper purposely delayed his remarks to ensure JT didn't get on the National. Oh my, see how partisan hackery works... hey Simple? Quote
Boges Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 that sir, is linkage! Both French Canadians too! Two of those were for the first rumour. Care to dismiss the other similarities? Quote
Black Dog Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 I believe I did hear that they were following each other on Twitter, not confirmed though. But the similarities are obvious. Both French Canadian, Both recent converts, Both having had their passports recently pulled, Both on a CSIS watch list, Both targeting members of the military, Both doing appear to be following marching orders from ISIS. Is it a complete reach to think that there are more people that are looking to do the exact same things as these two? Superficial similarities doesn't mean there was an actual connection. Like I said yesterday, this is probably a copycat case. Quote
Big Guy Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 If Trudeau or Mulcair made a statement before Harper they would be political opportunists and usurpers. If they made statements at the same time as the PM they would be grandstanding and using this tragedy for political purposes. If they made statements after Harper then they would be missing in action. If they made no statement then they would be insensitive to a major Canadian travesty. In time of perceived national crisis, the opposition must stand united behind their Prime Minister. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
jbg Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Just the fact that Trudeau Senior's reaction to the October crisis was a huge over-reaction.From what I remember of the period, U.S. campuses were in an uproar. Just the spring before, the Kent State shootings happened in the wake of near-riot conditions at that and many other campuses. The way I read the events at the time was that Trudeau was warning potential rebels not to try their garbage in Canada. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
waldo Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 The way I read the events at the time was that Trudeau was warning potential rebels not to try their garbage in Canada. and you would be wrong. Quote
guyser Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 From what I remember of the period, U.S. campuses were in an uproar. Just the spring before, the Kent State shootings happened in the wake of near-riot conditions at that and many other campuses.Hmm...and you would be wrong here too. Take another swing, 2 strikes may as well go to the fence. History as taught by the National Guard in NY? Quote
dre Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 If Trudeau or Mulcair made a statement before Harper they would be political opportunists and usurpers. If they made statements at the same time as the PM they would be grandstanding and using this tragedy for political purposes. If they made statements after Harper then they would be missing in action. If they made no statement then they would be insensitive to a major Canadian travesty. In time of perceived national crisis, the opposition must stand united behind their Prime Minister. I watched all three of the speeches and to be honest, I thought they were all just wishy washy political platitudes. Boiler plate crap that almost seemed like it was all written by the same guy. In fairness though Im pretty cinical about politicians and their speeches most of the time. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
BubberMiley Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Right...but there is no shortage of PM Harper critics very quick to escalate the event for their own political purposes.Really? I call BS (again). Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 History as taught by the National Guard in NY?Yes, near-riot conditions causing them to shoot from hundreds of yards away at non-demonstrating students heading to class. The Republican spin on these things is hilarious sometimes. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
scribblet Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Right...but there is no shortage of PM Harper critics very quick to escalate the event for their own political purposes. Indeed - I heard something on the car radio this morning that I would've actually phoned in about if I could have done so at the time. It won't be long that others will be repeating the manta the PM Harper 'failed us'... ho hum Meanwhile Justin T. says '. We will remain resolved'. Resolved to what? He was sure far from resolved on joining the fight against Isis, so what's his position now. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
guyser Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 The Republican spin on these things is hilarious sometimes. Pssst....haven't you heard? He's a Democrat ? Quote
cybercoma Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Right...but there is no shortage of PM Harper critics very quick to escalate the event for their own political purposes. What do you care about Harper critics? He's not your Prime Minister, even if the forum is hosted in Texas. Quote
jbg Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 and you would be wrong.I give up. How am I wrong? Hmm...and you would be wrong here too.I give up. How am I wrong? Take another swing, 2 strikes may as well go to the fence. History as taught by the National Guard in NY?One post, two strikes? Is that the way the refs for the Bluejays work? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Indeed - I heard something on the car radio this morning that I would've actually phoned in about if I could have done so at the time. It won't be long that others will be repeating the manta the PM Harper 'failed us'... ho hum Meanwhile Justin T. says '. We will remain resolved'. Resolved to what? He was sure far from resolved on joining the fight against Isis, so what's his position now. Yes, here is yet another JT critic very quick to escalate the event for their own political purposes, but I still haven't seen an example of a similar critic of Harper. BS it is. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
overthere Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Trudeau suffered a bit of a PR setback here IMO. All day the media yammered on about how the full Government caucus was meeting on one side of the hallway where the gunman was shooting and shot. The Official Opposition was meeting on the other side of the hallway. I wondered where Trudeau and the Liberal caucus was..... eventually somebody noted that the Liberal caucus meets in a room in the basement..... The basement? Yikes. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
guyser Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 I give up. How am I wrong?Revisionist history. One post, two strikes? Is that the way the refs for the Bluejays work?Let me spell it out for you. Wronf on Trudeau, wrong on Kent State. Now,....that would mean two strikes. By the way, there arent refs in Baseball, they are called Umpires. Guess thats strike three? Yer out. Quote
BC_chick Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 In which case I apologize for over reacting. The hair jokes are getting pretty tired. Good on you for overreacting. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
BubberMiley Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Trudeau suffered a bit of a PR setback here IMO. All day the media yammered on about how the full Government caucus was meeting on one side of the hallway where the gunman was shooting and shot. The Official Opposition was meeting on the other side of the hallway. I wondered where Trudeau and the Liberal caucus was..... eventually somebody noted that the Liberal caucus meets in a room in the basement..... The basement? Yikes. Trudeau suffered a PR setback because you just realized the Liberals aren't the official opposition? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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