Shots Fired On Parliament Hill

[On Guard for Thee]

Mosques should be made illegal. No churches in Saudi Arabia, no mosques in Canada. We don't need them here. We were just fine before the Muslims got here. We'd get along without them.

Well I doubt that will happen here anytime soon. Maybe you should consider moving to the ME where you would only have one religious group to worry about.

[Scared.In.Canada]

Well I doubt that will happen here anytime soon. Maybe you should consider moving to the ME where you would only have one religious group to worry about.

I am a Jew. I have been to Israel several times. I am not welcome In Saudi Arabia because I am a Jew. Not just Saudi Arabia either all Islamic countries I am not welcome to enter. Islam is certainly peaceful isn't it?

I suggest you people get off the internet once in a while and go travel and see what the world is really like. Not just want the internet tells you. go and see it. You might be surprised.

[Accountability Now]

Bourque shot and killed 3 RCMP officers and seriously injured two more. In Mayerthorpe, James Roszko murdered 4 RCMP officers. Go back further still and we talk about Marc Lépine murdering 14 people in the École Polytechnique massacre in 1989.

But yeah...we better be careful of those Muslims.

You're right. Its the French we should be fearing. Bourque, Lepine, Zehaf-Bibeau, and Rouleau! Add in the FLQ....damn....you're on to something here!

I'm being sarcastic about it being the French....in case you can't tell.

Edited October 23, 2014 by Accountability Now

[BubberMiley]

No churches in Saudi Arabia, no mosques in Canada.

I got the impression you wanted to be less like Saudi Arabia, not more.

[BC_chick]

Red herrings much?It's so funny how folks so desperate to prove 'it's not just Islam' can find these 1 or 2-3 death incidents to 'prove it'. Never mind the literally tens of thousands of killings directly attributed to be 'for Allah' over the last decade, and active, organized groups who specifically cite Islam as their raison d'etre and the motivation behind their very public calls to murder non-Muslims (Jew or other).But ya, it's 'just crazy people' isn't it? Guess that's why you hear about all those Buddhist groups from poor countries who can't find employment always founding violent groups eh?

Agreed. Killing hundreds of thousands in the name of Almighty Oil is soooo much more reasonable.

[bush_cheney2004]

Kevin Vickers.....humble Canadian hero:

[Big Guy]

Screen them for what ? inless we have them on film, or photo fighting or doing terrorist acts what do we screen them for....unless they happen to say i'm a terrorist i was fighting how do we prove that in a court of law, we can take away a passprt , but we can't strip them from being Canadian without proof....having the laws is one thing ,having effective laws is another....in other words they are free to travel any where in the world when you get back you may be stripped of a passport....ouch that hurts give me another....

So to keep a radicalized Canadian from doing harm in Canada is to not let him out of the country?

[Big Guy]

I am surprised that the prop and anti gun control folks have not jumped into this incident.

I watched TV coverage of the shooter. After the soldier was shot, the shooter drove to a stop, left with his rifle in his arms - lots of people scattered. He commandeered another car and more people scattered. He drove up to the parliament buildings, exited with his rifle and lots more people scattered.

End result of this run, shooter dead, nobody else hurt.

Now if all those people who scattered had been armed then the end result for the shooter would probably have been the same - dead.
As to the number of people who would have gotten into a firefight with this shooter if they had been armed? I wonder how many of them would have been killed or maimed and how many others in the vicinity would have been "collateral damage".

A good firefight between a guy with a rifle and a bunch of civilians with hand guns would have made for good TV.

[Scared.In.Canada]

Just because you have armed civilians doesn't mean said civilians wouldn't know how to use the guns. You're assuming that they would all be terrible shots when quite the opposite is likely to be true. People who would own guns if we had a CC permit situation would be enthusiasts and therefore would go to the range often and would most likely be very good shots.

[On Guard for Thee]

I am a Jew. I have been to Israel several times. I am not welcome In Saudi Arabia because I am a Jew. Not just Saudi Arabia either all Islamic countries I am not welcome to enter. Islam is certainly peaceful isn't it?

I suggest you people get off the internet once in a while and go travel and see what the world is really like. Not just want the internet tells you. go and see it. You might be surprised.

I've done nothing but travel for the last 25 years.

[On Guard for Thee]

Kevin Vickers.....humble Canadian hero:

As Waldo has pointed out elsewhere, nobody is laughing, nobody cares, maybe you and Shady should just head off and do what you do best. You know.

[Argus]

Upon watching the CC video several thoughts occur to me.

1. The pedestrian entrances have police there in the summer. Why were they removed? I've seen them there.

2. Clearly no one was monitoring the cameras, or at least, if they were, they weren't monitoring the ones aimed at the pedestrian entrance. Had they done so there was time to lock down the outer doors to the Centre block.

3. The cameras in use are old and need to be updated to the much clearer, crisper digital cameras now available.

I would rather pay more to have more people staring at monitors in a dark room than have tons of armed guards and metal detectors in the main entrance. Though there's clearly a need for more guards, and for them to be armed (not presently the case).

Edited October 24, 2014 by Argus

[dre]

It's muslims who are actively trying to wipe us off t he map so when a few of them gfo on a shooting and/or killing rampage yeah I'd say their religion is very relevant.

I would hazzard to guess that Canadians have killed about 1000 times as many muslims as they have killed Canadians.

[Shady]

Anybody else see the 5 minute standing ovation for the Sergeant at arms today? It was really moving.

Edited October 24, 2014 by Shady

[On Guard for Thee]

If you have a TV and turned it on today you couldn't not have seen it. Vickers did his job and he did it well. I don't tend to get "moved" over people getting shot. Good ones or bad.

[Shady]

If you have a TV and turned it on today you couldn't not have seen it. Vickers did his job and he did it well. I don't tend to get "moved" over people getting shot. Good ones or bad.

I was at work today, so watching TV wasn't really an option. Anyways, I didn't say it was moving that somebody got shot. I said the ovation he recieved was moving. Any normal person would've thought so.

[cybercoma]

He certainly deserves the recognition, but even he was visibly embarrassed by how long this continued. Taking another person's life is not done lightly nor should it be done to a round of applause. It was a heavy and necessary responsibility. One that he didn't take on alone, as he constantly corrects people by mentioning his entire team that was there, and one that he certainly doesn't take lightly.

[Shady]

Nobody's life was taken to a round of applause. The applause came afterwards, as recognition for a heroic act that saved lives. You people need to get over it.

[cybercoma]

Nobody's life was taken to a round of applause. The applause came afterwards, as recognition for a heroic act that saved lives. You people need to get over it.

Shady, don't oversimplify what I'm saying because it's easier for you to argue against something else.

Edited October 24, 2014 by cybercoma

[On Guard for Thee]

I was at work today, so watching TV wasn't really an option. Anyways, I didn't say it was moving that somebody got shot. I said the ovation he recieved was moving. Any normal person would've thought so.

This normal person doesn't get all choked up over someone getting shot. The heroic act was somebody getting shot. It was needed in the moment, but not something that I celebrate.

[Guest]

I think it's more the saving of lives that they are celebrating.

[cybercoma]

I think it's more the saving of lives that they are celebrating.

Of course they are. That's obvious.

[xul]

I wonder if the incident is really a terrorist attack. If I was an archivist and there were 2 shelves, one labled "Terrorist" and another labled "Loser", I would definitely put this guy's file in "Loser" rather than "Terrorist".

[Scared.In.Canada]

I wonder if the incident is really a terrorist attack. If I was an archivist and there were 2 shelves, one labled "Terrorist" and another labled "Loser", I would definitely put this guy's file in "Loser" rather than "Terrorist".

He was a Muslim Fanatic who was wearing a black and white Arab scarf during the deed. He wanted to make sure we all knew he was a Muslim and carrying out Jihad.

[Guest]

Of course they are. That's obvious.

Sorry, I didn't read enough posts to realise it had already been put that way.