bush_cheney2004 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) They're often also shot for being mentally ill - point being there is little excuse for not training police to better assess and react to situations before blasting away. Screw that....let all the bleeding hearts take the assaults and police killings first. Police officers should not be trained to add further risk to themselves and others because of perps or the mentally ill. Blast away when necessary...police officers are trained very well for that. Edited November 28, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted November 28, 2014 Report Posted November 28, 2014 Better yet, train police to hide behind the bleeding hearts. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Posted November 28, 2014 Better yet, train police to hide behind the bleeding hearts. They won't be for long...instead begging for "police protection". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted November 28, 2014 Report Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Is that a threat or a warning? Edited November 28, 2014 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Posted November 28, 2014 Is that a threat or a warning? It's a prediction.....even "black people" deserve protection from the perps most likely to assault or kill them. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 Never said otherwise only that police should be trained and directed to do so with less shooting first and asking questions later. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 Except the cops. They would expose the thin blue line for what it really is. Absolutely necessary? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 Never said otherwise only that police should be trained and directed to do so with less shooting first and asking questions later. Why ? We have already reviewed the well defined and legal progression of police training up to deadly force in response to perp actions. Please review as needed. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 One need only look at the video of the 12 year old being shot in Cleveland to see how stupid/inept these cops are. Quote
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 I see, and you can use the video to stereotype how? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 I see, and you can use the video to stereotype how? hopefully they will use the video as a training aid to stop this kind of incident from becoming more stereotypical, and before more innocent people die. Quote
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 No, no, you said it was stereotypical. You said that without evidence. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 At least in the Cleveland case there is a video so the cops may/should hav to do some 'splainin. I think I'll buy stocks in lapel cam producers. Quote
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 So you're not going to back off of your earlier insinuations then? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 I'm not sure what you mean. Quote
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 One need only look at the video of the 12 year old being shot in Cleveland to see how stupid/inept these cops are. Who are these cops? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 Who are these cops? I guess they are Cleveland city cops. Quote
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) So one cop makes a city then. That's what I thought. Edited November 29, 2014 by Smallc Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 So one cop makes a city then. That's what I thought. You flail around all you like. The fact is there is a dead 12 year old, needlessly. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 There are some horrible statistics out there. To put these in perspective to Police killings - the best stat that I could find indicated that police kill just less than 100 black Americans each year - about 17% of the total Police killings. An undeniable conclusion - a vast majority of the time, Black people kill Black people - and it's hard to find racism in that fact. Link: http://www.vpc.org/studies/blackhomicide12.pdf So, if I'm reading this right...and I think I am, then white cops in fact like black men a whole lot more than black men like black men. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 You flail around all you like. The fact is there is a dead 12 year old, needlessly. That may be, but you can't draw wider conclusions from that. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 That may be, but you can't draw wider conclusions from that. You certainly can draw a lot of conclusions from that. Right off the top that this particular force needs to have their training investigated, and you can go on from there. Quote
Argus Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 So, if I'm reading this right...and I think I am, then white cops in fact like black men a whole lot more than black men like black men. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
sharkman Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 Here's some commentary on the media's lack of accuracy and accountability during this whole sad affair. Their reporting and pushing of a certain narrative inflamed things far more than if they had checked their facts or fairly reported other evidence that didn't fit their shot-in-the-back theories. It was initially claimed, in interviews aired by MSNBC and also by CNN, that officer Wilson had shot Michael Brown in the back as he was fleeing. These witnesses claimed Brown then turned and put his hands up but was shot dead by the advancing officer Wilson. This was a description of a cop committing a murder and, understandably, enraged people around the country. ... Meanwhile, the facts about the shooting gradually turned out not to fit the left's chosen narrative. Claims Brown had been shot in the back collapsed in the wake of the autopsy report which showed Brown had only been shot in the front, i.e. while facing Wilson. The same autopsy report also cast doubt on claims Brown's hands were up when he was shot. In fact, the evidence was consistent with Wilson's claim that Brown had been charging forward, with his head down, when he was fatally shot. ... When a sympathetic NY Times piece mentioned in passing that Brown was "no angel" as a reference to his stealing, fighting, drinking, drug use and vulgar rap lyrics, the left swarmed the characterization and labeled it an example of "unconscious bias." The Times' public editor and the author retreated saying they regretted the choice of words. ... Having thus established that Brown was the innocent victim of a police execution, progressives were furious when the police released video showing Brown committing a strong-arm robbery just a few minutes before the shooting. The image of the 6'5" 290lb Brown intimidating and shoving a tiny store clerk who wanted him to pay before leaving his convenience store didn't fit their narrative in which Brown had done nothing wrong. Quote
GostHacked Posted November 29, 2014 Report Posted November 29, 2014 So, where do we go from here? Quote
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