Ferguson unrest

[waldo]

My mistake, I guess. They only commit half of all murders, manslaughters and robberies....

nice back-handed correction! Well done.

[cybercoma]

And in Canadian streets.

Half of all crime in the US is committed by Black people. We don't know in Canada because we don't keep stats.

Half of all crime that is caught is by black people. It makes a pretty big difference when mass murderers are conceived of as fallen genius weirdos, while a black kid with a pack of skittles and an iced tea is a thug "nigger".

[Black Dog]

My mistake, I guess. They only commit half of all murders, manslaughters and robberies....

Don't forget gambling.

[GostHacked]

This thread degenerated as quick as the situation in Ferguson.

[jacee]

Another pet peeve:

Several rally organizers, meanwhile, tried to restore order to the gathering, which they said was being undermined by a few provocateurs determined to make trouble and force a police reaction.

Provocateurs gonna provoke.

Thieves gonna loot.

So arrest them!

Neither justifies applying a

COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT like tear gas!

to a crowd of people legally and peacefully exercising their rights to freedom of expression and association!!

[jacee]

My mistake, I guess. They only commit half of all murders, manslaughters and robberies....

LINK?

.

[GostHacked]

IN one report the police said they would not use tear gas. That apparently was a lie as tear gas was used every night so far. Last night I watched a livestream and a youtube livestream from two different news reporters. There were shots fired last night, but both the police and the protesters are saying that it was a thirds group.

One of the community leaders speaks out on CNN about the provocateurs. This kind of thing is getting way to predictable. Wait do we still trust CNN for proper reporting still?

[bush_cheney2004]

Another pet peeve:

....Neither justifies applying a

COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT like tear gas!

to a crowd of people legally and peacefully exercising their rights to freedom of expression and association!!

They are violating a mandatory curfew imposed for public safety and the protection of property.

Tear gas and other non-lethals are the appropriate response from law enforcement.

[GostHacked]

They are violating a mandatory curfew imposed for public safety and the protection of property.

Tear gas and other non-lethals are the appropriate response from law enforcement.

There was no curfew imposed last night.

[On Guard for Thee]

Police sources saying they have a bunch of witnesses saying Brown attacked the cop, ran, then turned and charged back at him.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/18/report-more-than-a-dozen-witnesses-have-corroborated-officer-darren-wilsons-version-of-ferguson-shooting/

Of course the police would report on those "eyewitnesses" that support their story. There are widely varying eyewitness accounts. And once again, the arm wounds are NOT conclusive as to the position of the arms at the time they were hit.

[Hal 9000]

IN one report the police said they would not use tear gas. That apparently was a lie as tear gas was used every night so far. Last night I watched a livestream and a youtube livestream from two different news reporters. There were shots fired last night, but both the police and the protesters are saying that it was a thirds group.

One of the community leaders speaks out on CNN about the provocateurs. This kind of thing is getting way to predictable. Wait do we still trust CNN for proper reporting still?

I wanted to have some faith in this guy when I saw his earlier interviews, but he's clearly just another race baiting agitator. I don't believe for a second that the police planted 20 YO black men to cause trouble.

[Hal 9000]

BTW - Are we gonna have to start using the words "bad actors" and "bum-rushed" in popular culture now?

[GostHacked]

Of course the police would report on those "eyewitnesses" that support their story. There are widely varying eyewitness accounts. And once again, the arm wounds are NOT conclusive as to the position of the arms at the time they were hit.

If his arms were raised near his head, then you can see there was a tight grouping of the shots. The wounds on near the elbow when raised are very close to the wounds in his head.

[On Guard for Thee]

If his arms were raised near his head, then you can see there was a tight grouping of the shots. The wounds on near the elbow when raised are very close to the wounds in his head.

I don't think I follow you.

[GostHacked]

I don't think I follow you.

Note the wounds, then raise your arms up by your head. Notice the grouping of the shots. I will say Brown did have his arms raised.

[Hal 9000]

Note the wounds, then raise your arms up by your head. Notice the grouping of the shots. I will say Brown did have his arms raised.

Hold your arms out in a taunting fashion and you get the same results. We'll have to see the path of the bullets before knowing anything for sure.

[On Guard for Thee]

Note the wounds, then raise your arms up by your head. Notice the grouping of the shots. I will say Brown did have his arms raised.

Got you now. Yeah it seems people want to conclude that the arm wounds somehow prove he was facing the cop and it's just not conclusive of anything. He could well have been running away when he heard gunfire, decided to stop and raise his arms exposing the fronts of his arms toward his back. The pathologist who did the latest autopsy in his press conference said basically the only thing he could reasonably conclude about the how Brown rec'd the gunshots was that the one that went through his brain was the last one. And I guess that makes sense.

[Boges]

So an armed black youth was shot by police today.

He stole Muffins and Energy Drinks.

[Black Dog]

So I guess if the cop's version of events turns out to be true (or at least the generally accepted narrative in white America) does that mean we can go back to pretending they got that whole race thing licked?

[Smallc]

If the cops version of events turns out to be true, we just continue to consider him a racist then. Good.

[Black Dog]

If the cops version of events turns out to be true, we just continue to consider him a racist then. Good.

Certainly that would mean you won't have to ask any uncomfortable questions about the relationship between black Americans and the police or the seemingly increasing authoritarian bent of law enforcement (best summed up right here by an actual cop).

Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?

[Hal 9000]

Certainly that would mean you won't have to ask any uncomfortable questions about the relationship between black Americans and the police or the seemingly increasing authoritarian bent of law enforcement (best summed up right here by an actual cop).

Black or white, if Brown turned and walked toward the sidewalk, he'd be alive today. Black or white, if you attack a police officer (reports are that he has a broken orbital bone), you're gonna pay the price.

Or, with no evidence, we can just forget everything that makes sense and believe the "racist cop executes innocent black child" agenda - right?

[bush_cheney2004]

Millions of young black males will not be shot by police today, including my own son. Ironically, they have a much greater chance of being shot by another black male.

[Black Dog]

Black or white, if Brown turned and walked toward the sidewalk, he'd be alive today. Black or white, if you attack a police officer (reports are that he has a broken orbital bone), you're gonna pay the price.

Or, with no evidence, we can just forget everything that makes sense and believe the "racist cop executes innocent black child" agenda - right?

While you're pondering "everything that makes sense", ask yourself what makes sense about a teenager deciding, suddenly and without provocation, to physically assault a police officer.

Or you could look beyond this particular incident and ask yourself the questions I alluded to. But you'll probably just tuck this in back of your mind as another uppity thug who got what was coming to him and forget the rest.

[Hal 9000]

While you're pondering "everything that makes sense", ask yourself what makes sense about a teenager deciding, suddenly and without provocation, to physically assault a police officer.

Or you could look beyond this particular incident and ask yourself the questions I alluded to. But you'll probably just tuck this in back of your mind as another uppity thug who got what was coming to him and forget the rest.

No, I'll answer any question. I thought yours was rhetorical.

If the cops events turn out to true, I hope he gets off. I hope the Black community accepts it and I hope they move forward. Racism will never be licked because white people can not fix the problem. Like any problem, the answers have to come from within.