Army Guy Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 That's true... the gov't occasionally needs to be held to account for these violations, and it often is. He certainly isn't a Canadian war criminal... that label is asinine. He was a child soldier and is now free and will likely get plenty of remedy through the courts. Luckily, he's still young enough to get his life back. No cheap goods for him? Oh, how sad... He will be able to afford Canadian retail prices on shoes once he's compensated though.... don't worry... I wish Canadians were so passionate about our vets rights. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
The_Squid Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 I wish Canadians were so passionate about our vets rights. Most are... not this Conservative government however.... I don't know anyone passionate about this... people just know he got a raw deal, first from his parents then from his government. Quote
Smallc Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 Most are... Based on what? The current policy was brought in by the last government, and no one cared enough for it to have been changed until now. Quote
The_Squid Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 Based on what? The current policy was brought in by the last government, and no one cared enough for it to have been changed until now. What policy is that? Quote
Smallc Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 What policy is that? The veterans charter. It appeared to increase benefits but, in some cases it's woefully inadequate. It's a Liberal policy. Quote
The_Squid Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 The veterans charter. It appeared to increase benefits but, in some cases it's woefully inadequate. It's a Liberal policy. They were voted out, if you didn't notice. They've had a decade to fix it. Instead, they had Fantino insulting veterans to their face and being an incompetent and mean spirited buffoon.... In other words, carrying out this government's mandate. Quote
Army Guy Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 Most are... not this Conservative government however.... I don't know anyone passionate about this... people just know he got a raw deal, first from his parents then from his government. I would say most are aware of the problems vets face, but not passionate, not to the point where anything will change. I think Omars support comes with a chance to stick it to the man, meaning Harper, and for some sticking it to harper is more important regardless of what Omar did do....support for the vets gets you, what nothing..... Omar is not the first Canadian to get a raw deal, what about the Native americans, we did worse to an entire race of people and for the most part all they ever got was a sorry from some government elected official.... Maybe its time to let this matter slip into history, Omar begins the healing process, Canadians say they are sorry , he says im sorry we all hug and go home.... making a huge payout changes this issue entirely, for alot of people. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
The_Squid Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) No, the previous Liberal government did Kahdr wrong as well... It's about the actions, not the personalities. Nice try though... Native Americans got a raw deal in Canada? Hmmm...... Edited July 9, 2015 by The_Squid Quote
Army Guy Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 No, the previous Liberal government did Kahdr wrong as well... It's about the actions, not the personalities. Nice try though... Native Americans got a raw deal in Canada? Hmmm...... It is about actions,on one side of the fence you have..... What the government did or did not do for omar, with many Canadians believing he should get a huge payout...... On the other side, Omars actions, many Canadians want to see justice done, he done the crimes, and now he has done the time..... time for Omar and the rest of Canadians to get on with their lives...his payout should be no larger than what a vet would receive for the same thing.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Smallc Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 They were voted out, if you didn't notice. They've had a decade to fix it. Exactly. I wasn't defending the Conservatives. I was proving that no one really cares. Quote
The_Squid Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 Exactly. I wasn't defending the Conservatives. I was proving that no one really cares. Except the Liberals were voted out of office... Partly because of that. So your point is goofy. Quote
Smallc Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 Except the Liberals were voted out of office... Partly because of that. So your point is goofy. The Liberals were voted out of office because of the Gomery Commission and an idiotic move by the RCMP to being an investigation of the finance department in the middle of an election campaign. IT's conceivable, that without that investigation, 2006 would have been very different. Quote
cybercoma Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) The veterans charter. It appeared to increase benefits but, in some cases it's woefully inadequate. It's a Liberal policy.I love it when conservatives blame their problems on a party that hasn't been in the PMO for a decade. Edited July 9, 2015 by cybercoma Quote
Smallc Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 I love it when conservatives blame their problems on a party that hasn't been in the PMO for a decade. I wasn't blaming the Liberals for anything. I was using it as proof of people not really caring about veterans beyond empty platitudes. They didn't really care then and they don't really care now. They're not generally hostile or anything of the sort. Canadians are just busy living their own lives, caring mostly about the things that affect them. That's true no matter who is in power. Quote
cybercoma Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) I wasn't blaming the Liberals for anything. I was using it as proof of people not really caring about veterans beyond empty platitudes. They didn't really care then and they don't really care now. They're not generally hostile or anything of the sort. Canadians are just busy living their own lives, caring mostly about the things that affect them. That's true no matter who is in power.You're right that the electorate doesn't really care about anything until they're informed of such things. And typically they wouldn't find out about it, except in Harper's case his ministers have been openly hostile to veterans, so they've organized against his party. This is what draws the public's attention. Edited July 9, 2015 by cybercoma Quote
Smallc Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 You're right that the electorate doesn't really care about anything until they're informed of such things. And typically they wouldn't find out about it, except in Harper's case his ministers have been openly hostile to veterans, so they've organized against his party. This is what draws the public's attention. I would argue that the public still doesn't really care, even if they should. Harper treats everyone as an adversary. It's one of his major weaknesses. Quote
eyeball Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 Yes he seems very typical of conservatives everywhere these days . Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Canada_First Posted July 11, 2015 Report Posted July 11, 2015 I love it when conservatives blame their problems on a party that hasn't been in the PMO for a decade.Sort of like in Ontario and Mike Harris. Quote
drummindiver Posted July 11, 2015 Report Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) I love it when conservatives blame their problems on a party that hasn't been in the PMO for a decade. lol In Ontario, everything that's wrong is blamed on Mike Harris. Isn't politics fun? edit...just saw other poster say same thing...sorry Edited July 11, 2015 by drummindiver Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 11, 2015 Report Posted July 11, 2015 Let's get back to Khadr now... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
drummindiver Posted July 11, 2015 Report Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Well it beats being tortured in an illegal US prison. Murdering terrorists deserve to be tortured wherever. Edited July 11, 2015 by drummindiver Quote
The_Squid Posted July 11, 2015 Report Posted July 11, 2015 Murdering terrorists deserve to be tortured wherever. Not according to Canada's Constitution. Which is why Kahdr will get millions of dollars from taxpayers... Quote
cybercoma Posted July 11, 2015 Report Posted July 11, 2015 Sort of like in Ontario and Mike Harris. lol In Ontario, everything that's wrong is blamed on Mike Harris. Isn't politics fun? edit...just saw other poster say same thing...sorry I'm glad you two see how stupid it is. Quote
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