Big Guy Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Charles, the Prince of Wales, and his wife, Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, will tour Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Manitoba May 18-22. The cost to Canadian taxpayers will be over $700,000 - which doesn’t include RCMP or other agents tasked with providing security for the royal couple, which will increase the total cost to taxpayers considerably. I assume that Canadian monarchists may be excited about this visit but they are such a small minority that I wonder if this is not a waste of money. Can anyone explain what benefit their visit is to Canadians? Did PM Harper invite them? That family members are $multi-millionairs and can certainly afford to pay their own way. At least when William and Kate were here they were celebrating their wedding. As a couple they are also not hard to look at. But Charles and Camilla ???? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Guest Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 They came to see me but they don't know where I live. Don't tell them. Quote
WWWTT Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 OK buddy, you keep making BIG claims, but provide no links to back up squat! Where did you get those numbers from? I'm not going to have any kind of debate on your threads because you make these claims with no backing support to prove your research! You also make some kind of bizarre claim that they are not worth looking at????? What the hell is that about? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Big Guy Posted May 19, 2014 Author Report Posted May 19, 2014 For the research impaired, if you go to GOOGLE and type in "cost royal visit" that will send you to a summary page that you can use hypertext to access about 20 different reports, articles or ... The facts that I have stated are; The cost to Canadian taxpayers will be over $700,000 - which doesn’t include RCMP or other agents tasked with providing security for the royal couple, which will increase the total cost to taxpayers considerably." It is very simple to check that figure or find your own. "I assume that Canadian monarchists may be excited about this visit but they are such a small minority that I wonder if this is not a waste of money." You need a link for that? "Can anyone explain what benefit their visit is to Canadians? Did PM Harper invite them?" You need a link to have an opinion? Thank you for reading the post. If any of my postings cause you question any information stated in them then please dispute them or ignore the post. Perhaps the posters who I am trying to reach and answer some of my questions have a different process of dealing with statements on anonymous public access bulletin boards. They may be more concerned with issues rather than posters. Thanks again for your comments. I have read your responses and will react accordingly. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
cybercoma Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 They don't need an invitation. They're the Royal Family of Canada and Prince Charles is the next in line to be King of Canada. Quote
Big Guy Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Posted May 20, 2014 They don't need an invitation. They're the Royal Family of Canada and Prince Charles is the next in line to be King of Canada. Is there a link or report on that ? I assume that they can visit when they want - but why do we have to pay for their visit? I have no problem with the Monarchist League of Canada or some commercial enterprise funding the trip. Personally, I do not believe in the Divine Right Of Kings nor the idea of "royal blood" and the expected reverence towards it. Neither Charles or Camilla have shown any particular special earned attributes that deserve our tax dollars. The way Charles treated Diana was shameful and his subsequent attempt to legitimize his relationship to Camilla with a marriage was not a template for regal decision making. I suspect that the Queen is of the same opinion and I hope she plans to outlive Charles and leave the throne to William. If Charles does succeed to outlive his mother he would be smart to abdicate and leave the throne to his son. With the Republicans staying powerful and looking for a reason to make a frontal assault on the monarchy, I believe that a King Charles could be that reason. But that is only my opinion. Long live the Queen! Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Smallc Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Is there a link or report on that ? I assume that they can visit when they want - but why do we have to pay for their visit? Because they're an integral part of our system of government. Charles will be King. Quote
WWWTT Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 For the research impaired, if you go to GOOGLE and type in "cost royal visit" that will send you to a summary page that you can use hypertext to access about 20 different reports, articles or ... The facts that I have stated are; You need a link to have an opinion? And what was your source????? Was it from the Globe? How about the Star? Wikipedia? There is a very good reason(s) why you have to provide a link! We have to be given the opportunity to debate your source and the exact details that you may or may not be be omitting from that same source! And what makes you think that the rules do not apply to you? But the rules still apply to the rest of us? You sound pretty arrogant buddy! As far as I'm concerned, you are trying to circumvent the rules because you don't want to give others the opportunity to debate! From what I see so far, you're a very poor debater! I'm not wasting my time with you anymore. Good luck! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Big Guy Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Posted May 20, 2014 ... I'm not wasting my time with you anymore. Good luck! WWWTT Thank you for your previous interest. I purchased a 6/49 ticket this morning and hope that your wish for my good luck comes true. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
cybercoma Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Big Guy, you can not believe in it all you want. Fact is Charles will be our head of state soon. Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Big Guy, you can not believe in it all you want. Fact is Charles will be our head of state soon. Did we pay when the Pope showed up, or Mandela......if so we pony up. Quote
eyeball Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) "Can anyone explain what benefit their visit is to Canadians? My own theory is that the main benefit is actually for our system of governance. To my way of thinking the Monarchy's duty to it's subjects should be to ensure the system of governance it represents is based on unflinching integrity, honesty, accountability and transparency. Instead it doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than to enculturate/perpetuate a certain sickly-sweet sycophancy and obsequiousness in our population - an expectation of thankfulness for what we've got. That family members are $multi-millionairs and can certainly afford to pay their own way. Well sure but, how better to rub in our noses our responsibility to bow before our betters, than to make us pay for the privilege. Edited May 20, 2014 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
BubberMiley Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Charles will be King.But didn't his uncle have to hand the throne over to his grandfather because he married a divorcee? Have the rules since changed? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
cybercoma Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Did we pay when the Pope showed up, or Mandela......if so we pony up.What do they have to do with anything?Do we pay when the Governor General goes on trips? That's a better comparison. Quote
GostHacked Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Is there a link or report on that ? I assume that they can visit when they want - but why do we have to pay for their visit? Your a are a subject, she is the Queen. She can do things you cannot. Yet another good reason to ditch the Monarchy. She can easily afford to pay for anything she damn wants by herself. Watch for photo op with Harper and some feel good story in the coming week. Quote
Boges Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Some people love the Royals. . . get over it. Quote
Topaz Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 It's just part of being a member of the commonwealth but I'd be more concern over the Tories 3.1 billion missing money or the huge advertising cost of a program that doesn't exist with the provinces, or the added 3.1 billion from tariffs coming into this country. At least, one can see the Royals and now where the money went. Quote
Smallc Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 It has nothing to do with being a member of the common wealth. They're the Canadian Royal Family. It's that simple. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Your a are a subject, she is the Queen. She can do things you cannot. Yet another good reason to ditch the Monarchy. She can easily afford to pay for anything she damn wants by herself. Watch for photo op with Harper and some feel good story in the coming week. Harper can easily afford to do things himself too. Should we stop paying for his security and travel too? Quote
Boges Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 But didn't his uncle have to hand the throne over to his grandfather because he married a divorcee? Have the rules since changed? Didn't him marrying a nazi sympathizers have something to do with it too? Quote
cybercoma Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Some people love the Royals. . . get over it.It has nothing to do with loving the Royals and everything to do with the fact that Canada is not a republic, but a monarchy. Quote
GostHacked Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Harper can easily afford to do things himself too. Should we stop paying for his security and travel too? The Queen is not a citizen of Canada, but has fluffy trips paid for via my tax dollars. Charles and Camilla are not citizens of Canada either, and yet we pay for it all. Welcome to the commonwealth. They are useless figure heads of an era of kings and queens that need to simply die. They are no longer needed in a modern society. Quote
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