This week in Islam

[scribblet]

Just now, Marocc said:

Israel is a terrorist state. Created through terrorism, upheld with terrorism..

Oh sure...of course you would say that.     If 'Palestine' laid down it's arms there would be peace

                                                                           If Israel laid down it's arms there would be genocide of Israel

[Marocc]

Just now, scribblet said:

Oh sure...of course you would say that.     If 'Palestine' laid down it's arms there would be peace

                                                                           If Israel laid down it's arms there would be genocide of Israel

There was a successful peace plan made and nearly implemented around 1948 when Israeli terrorist group (from which later stepped forward a terrorist who then became a government official) stern gang assassinated the man who made the deal - and the deal was off.

[scribblet]

1 minute ago, Marocc said:

There was a successful peace plan made and nearly implemented around 1948 when Israeli terrorist group (from which later stepped forward a terrorist who then became a government official) stern gang assassinated the man who made the deal - and the deal was off.

You are free to believe what you will.  Hamas is a terrorist organization whose sole intent is to destroy Israel and exterminate the Jews. 

[Goddess]

14 minutes ago, scribblet said:

You are free to believe what you will.  Hamas is a terrorist organization whose sole intent is to destroy Israel and exterminate the Jews. 

From the Hamas Charter:

'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)

'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be.' (Article 13)

 

'[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)

'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)

'The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.' (Article 32)
 

[Marocc]

16 minutes ago, scribblet said:

You are free to believe what you will.  Hamas is a terrorist organization whose sole intent is to destroy Israel and exterminate the Jews. 

I know but that has little to do what I just said.

[dialamah]

I didn't know this existed in my city.  The Muslim food bank offers various services to low-income families, with a focus on refugees.  They provide help with education, job skills and employment, and of course a food bank.  Seems pretty Islamic.

 

[Goddess]

36 minutes ago, dialamah said:

I didn't know this existed in my city.  The Muslim food bank offers various services to low-income families, with a focus on refugees.  They provide help with education, job skills and employment, and of course a food bank.  Seems pretty Islamic.

 

Seems pretty human.

[GostHacked]

18 hours ago, scribblet said:

They fight back against continuing attacks and threats of elimination.   This conflict is about the Palestinian desire to kill every Jew living in Israel, to wipe Israel off the map. 

And how successful have they been?  I'll tell you, not at all. Judging by who controls the area, the Jews are no longer in an existential crisis.

[GostHacked]

49 minutes ago, dialamah said:

I didn't know this existed in my city.  The Muslim food bank offers various services to low-income families, with a focus on refugees.  They provide help with education, job skills and employment, and of course a food bank.  Seems pretty Islamic.

 

How would that be different from any other food bank that helps the poor?

[dialamah]

12 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

How would that be different from any other food bank that helps the poor?

Merely taking someone's suggestion to post "positive" Muslim-related stories to offset the negative.

Otherwise, not much - kinda like most stories about Muslim behavior in Western countries.

[Marocc]

34 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

How would that be different from any other food bank that helps the poor?

How is a bomb blown up by a Muslim worse than a bomb blown up by someone else?

[Marocc]

A very interesting lecture on youtube by Zakir Naik, is terrorism a Muslim monopoly (157min).
 

 

Edited July 18, 2019 by Marocc

[DogOnPorch]

Zakir Naik Is Embarrassing

 

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Zakir Naik Is Embarrassing

 

Yes, it's an interesting choice of hero.

He's a radical Islamist.          

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48132710

Quote

 

Mr Naik, 53, promotes a radical form of Islam on the channel Peace TV. It is banned in India but has an estimated 200 million viewers worldwide.

However, it was in July 2016 when he really came to international attention, after a deadly attack on the Holey Artisan cafe in Dhaka.

The Bangladeshi media claimed that one of the gunmen had been inspired by his speeches. Later that month the Bangladeshi government banned Peace TV.

 

 

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

Yes, it's an interesting choice of hero.

He's a radical Islamist.          

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48132710

 

 

He's a medical doctor...self taught. 

[GostHacked]

27 minutes ago, Marocc said:

How is a bomb blown up by a Muslim worse than a bomb blown up by someone else?

You tell me?

[Marocc]

4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Yes, it's an interesting choice of hero.

He's a radical Islamist.          

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48132710

 

India, having a yet unconvincted (because for some reason India doesn't want to make a trial regarding it) terrorist in a central position in the government, isn't exactly the most reliable source to decide on the virtues and vices of others.

Anyway, if you watch the video, feel free to point out mistakes in it.

 

[Marocc]

2 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

You tell me?

Do I have to?

[DogOnPorch]

The Apostate Prophet did a fine job pointing out Jihadi Naik's glaring errors. 

[Goddess]

30 minutes ago, Marocc said:

How is a bomb blown up by a Muslim worse than a bomb blown up by someone else?

It's not.  But religiously motivated killing feels worse to most people because it more often involves killing innocent people that the killer doesn't even know and religion can be the catalyst that drives people to kill when they otherwise would not.

[Goddess]

4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

The Apostate Prophet did a fine job pointing out Jihadi Naik's glaring errors. 

The scary part is that even though he is a radical Islamist and banned in a lot of countries, he still has 200 million viewers.  Including Marocc, 

Edited July 18, 2019 by Goddess

[DogOnPorch]

4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The scary part is that even though he is a radical Islamist and banned in a lot of countries, he still has 200 million viewers.  Including Marocc, 

 

He's extremely popular with so-called moderate Muslims.

[Marocc]

8 minutes ago, Goddess said:

It's not.  But religiously motivated killing feels worse to most people because it more often involves killing innocent people that the killer doesn't even know and religion can be the catalyst that drives people to kill when they otherwise would not.

Which leads back to the lecture I posted. There are other "religious" terrorists.

[Marocc]

8 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The scary part is that even though he is a radical Islamist and banned in a lot of countries, he still has 200 million viewers.  Including Marocc, 

How would you know him to be or not be a radical islamist?

[DogOnPorch]

Yes...he's a true fan...n'est pas??