cybercoma Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 Good, contributing members have left this forum on their own in part because there are other members who are determined to bully and silence any contrary views and/or how those views are presented, regardless of topic. This "trolling" business is just another attempt to exert influence to get their partisan way. This forum is richer and more interesting with multiple viewpoints and perspectives. You might have a point if the people were divided on partisan lines about what trolling is. Problem is they're not. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 You might have a point if the people were divided on partisan lines about what trolling is. Problem is they're not. I agree that, together, they don't ignore "trolling" even if they could define it. They just want to shut other members up. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 trolls claiming censorship! More gold, more real gold!!! Quote
The_Squid Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 I seem to recall the mods being quite clear that if you want to leave in a tizzy and have your account frozen, then you would not be allowed back. So the charge of mods making this up on the fly is simply not true. If you have strong enough feelings about this place that you had your account frozen, you deserve to have to grovell to the mods for them to allow you to come back.... If they will allow it at all. The forum is probably better off without members who are drama queens in this manner. Quote
cybercoma Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 I agree that, together, they don't ignore "trolling" even if they could define it. They just want to shut other members up. Who is they? First you claim partisanship, now there's some mysterious "they" who you're on about. Do you have a point? Quote
jbg Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 You're so vain, you probably think this thread is about you, don't you, don't you.........Your singing voice is probably not as good as Carly Simon's. Also I doubt you're from Nova Scotia, mentioned in that song. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Big Guy Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 There is a fine line between what is open discussion and what is improper posting. The role of the appointed moderator is to be the umpire and interpret where this fine line is located. We all know what a strike zone is in baseball but it is the umpire who makes that decision. A strike is what the umpire says is a strike - it is not debatable. The ball might bounce in front of the plate or sail into the front row of seats - if the umpire calls it a strike, then it is a strike. I believe that the umpires for this Mapleleafweb have done an admirable job in calling this game. What I do not understand is why some of the current posters continue to post here. The whole process of interacting here takes time, effort and thought. It must also be a pleasurable experience since there is no financial incentive to interact. I would assume that if a person did not enjoy the experience then why would they continue to spend time here. I know I would not. When I read so many negative posts that "my guy is better than your guy... may party is better than your party... my opinion is better than your opinion... mine is bigger than yours... your opinion is wrong but my opinion is right and you are..." I wonder why people are wasting their time banging on their electronic shields. They are certainly not changing other opinions, gaining respect from other posters or adding to information about the topic at hand. Surely, they must have better things to do with their time. And how can you take personally something that is directed at their avatar? You are anonymous by choice! I have followed threads in which people obviously knowledgeable on the issue discuss their different views in a civil manner. Generally, I have found that posters who know what they are talking about do respond in a civil and polite manner. I enjoy boards where the civil discussions dominate the food fights. I think the moderators of this board are doing a fine job. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 Who is they? First you claim partisanship, now there's some mysterious "they" who you're on about. Do you have a point? My point is clear....it's not all about you or your understanding of such things. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 My point is clear....it's not all about you or your understanding of such things. PERSONAL ATTACK!!! Quote
waldo Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 ya cyber, what's the guy actually trying to say? Quote
cybercoma Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) My point is clear....it's not all about you or your understanding of such things. Gee. Here I thought it was a discussion forum. I guess if it's not about my understanding of such things then it sure as hell isn't about your understanding of such things either. Edited June 12, 2014 by cybercoma Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 Gee. Here I thought it was a discussion forum. I guess if it's not about my understanding of such things then it sure as hell isn't about your understanding of such things either. And that's fine by me.....your continued harassment and campaigns to ban other members as "trolls" has become boring. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 If you think I'm harassing you, might I suggest the report function. Quote
BubberMiley Posted June 12, 2014 Report Posted June 12, 2014 I think it was Betsy who suggested new personas for everyone. Perhaps not a bad idea, even if it lacks "accountability." Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Bob Macadoo Posted June 13, 2014 Report Posted June 13, 2014 I think it was Betsy who suggested new personas for everyone. Perhaps not a bad idea, even if it lacks "accountability." It still leaves their "personality" intact unfortunately..... Quote
Argus Posted June 13, 2014 Report Posted June 13, 2014 I believe there should be the following criteria: The new registration must be linked to the previous one in such a way in that there is a full accountability of their previous posts AS IS WITH A SINGLE MEMBERSHIP or words to that effect. Maybe some of you lawyer-likes can tighten up my legaloise with better jargon. Why? What's the point? You want us to not get personal in these discussions, but to address what is being written, to play the ball, not the man. Now you seem to be saying it's good we can research the man so we can... what? Dig up dirt to use against him? If you want to go legal, there is a part of the legal system, in terms of criminal trials, where the defendant's past is not open for discussion, nor attack. The idea is there is this ONE incident for which he is on trial, and his past should not be used against them. It is taken into consideration during sentencing, but not before that, in most cases. The case stands on its own. Shouldn't a person's position on a given topic stand on its own rather than have people researching the poster's past? I'm trying to find out just what you think is to be gained by linking them to posts made years earlier. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 13, 2014 Report Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Not sure how to deal with "Trolling" other than completely ignoring people you think are "Trolling." It would appear accusing a member of trolling is a "personal attack". There's a certain member that I'm convinced is a troll so I try to steer clear of adding to their contribution to the site. . . most of the time. There are at least three that are regular posters. One will post non-troll stuff, though. The other two are constructed personalities meant to be archtypical brainless, radical Lefties, and I virtually never even read them, much less reply. Edited June 13, 2014 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WestCoastRunner Posted June 13, 2014 Report Posted June 13, 2014 I have learned to ignore trolls and posters that insult to inflict pain. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 I chose to repost a poster's valuable information in a thread that another poster had chosen to ignore this poster. My repost was deleted and I was given a warning. If a poster wants to put another poster on ignore but continues to contribute to said thread, shouldn't they be made aware of the poster's contribution that they chose to ignore. They continued to contribute to this thread, all the while, ignoring valuable information that contributed to thread. How is that possibly advantageous to the thread? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 That is the purpose of the 'ignore' feature...to intentionally avoid the contributions (and personal attacks) of/from other members. It is the recommended course of action to avoid escalation and flaming between members. Both members can continue to contribute as they wish without dragging down the forum with unnecessary conflict. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 That is the purpose of the 'ignore' feature...to intentionally avoid the contributions (and personal attacks) of/from other members. It is the recommended course of action to avoid escalation and flaming between members. Both members can continue to contribute as they wish without dragging down the forum with unnecessary conflict. The information provided relevant to the thread was ignored by the member. So, how on earth could the member provide relevant information without being privy to all information provided in the thread. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 The information provided relevant to the thread was ignored by the member. So, how on earth could the member provide relevant information without being privy to all information provided in the thread. By continuing to engage with other members not inclined to post insults or personal attacks, and/or continuing to post information relevant to the topic regardless of what the ignored members choose to post. The topic can still be driven forward without 100% acknowledgement of all posts by all members. Indeed, it is not always possible to read all posts from all members, ignored or not. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 By continuing to engage with other members not inclined to post insults or personal attacks, and/or continuing to post information relevant to the topic regardless of what the ignored members choose to post. The topic can still be driven forward without 100% acknowledgement of all posts by all members. Indeed, it is not always possible to read all posts from all members, ignored or not. BC.forgive me, but I derive the least information from your posts. It would be so sad to have other members posts be banned and all I would have to read from this forum is your posts. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
waldo Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 I chose to repost a poster's valuable information in a thread that another poster had chosen to ignore this poster. My repost was deleted and I was given a warning. If a poster wants to put another poster on ignore but continues to contribute to said thread, shouldn't they be made aware of the poster's contribution that they chose to ignore. They continued to contribute to this thread, all the while, ignoring valuable information that contributed to thread. How is that possibly advantageous to the thread? I thought to provide an update on your post concerning that somewhat obscure breast reconstruction surgery the deflector put forward... I appreciate you finding it of interest/value. Of course, the deflector reads all posts... even those of whom he claims to ignore. That's quite obvious when you watch him scurry about trying to find something to post after those "he ignores" posts something. If I might... don't bother engaging directly as you're simply further enabling him. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 I thought to provide an update on your post concerning that somewhat obscure breast reconstruction surgery the deflector put forward... I appreciate you finding it of interest/value. Of course, the deflector reads all posts... even those of whom he claims to ignore. That's quite obvious when you watch him scurry about trying to find something to post after those "he ignores" posts something. If I might... don't bother engaging directly as you're simply further enabling him. Thank you. I did read up on that type of surgery. It clearly was not part of BC's research. I did research it. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
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