Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson's comments.

BubberMiley · December 24, 2013

The family is real.

But, like all reality, the characters they play on TV are fake. But people fall for it, just as they have played into A&E's publicity stunt very well.

You can't teach gullible. :lol:

WWWTT · December 24, 2013

He's both, a so-called "swampy hillbilly" ( I can't believe that term is still acceptable in today's PC culture, I guess it's still the only acceptable form of stereotype still allowed. Funny how that works.)

Ya and the Christian right in the US plays on it the most for their advantage!

Funny how that works.

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Michael Hardner · December 24, 2013

How can you be both real and unreal ?

BubberMiley · December 24, 2013

How can you be both real and unreal ?

It's called "acting."

Shady · December 24, 2013

How can you be both real and unreal ?

They're not real and unreal. If you've seen any of the duck hunting videos they made several years ago before they were famous you'd see.

Shady · December 24, 2013

It's called "acting."

You're giving them too much credit.

Spiderfish · December 24, 2013

A&E and its sponsors are free to make any production choices they wish, and we already know what choice they made with the DD family and their beliefs. Why just a "suspension" if A&E is so concerned. Cancel the show...advantage Phil.

Don't kid yourself, A&E is not concerned. In fact, Phil played right into their hand. Reed Robertson alluded to this in the "I am Second" interview the family recently did:

When the show first started, they said "we want a lot of fighting and we want you to get mad at each other and like, bickering and try to get us to cuss and all that kind of stuff", and our family was like "that's not who we are".

A&E was looking for fireworks and contraversy for ratings...mission accomplished. Their fake outrage is only playing it up to try and squeeze some mileage out of it, sad really.

http://www.iamsecond.com/seconds/the-robertsons

WWWTT · December 24, 2013

Here's a little more reality!

It's called playing the victim card. And the right just loves to do it!

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Spiderfish · December 24, 2013

Here's a little more reality!

It's called playing the victim card. And the right just loves to do it!

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Who's playing the victim card? Phil isn't claiming to be a victim of anything as far as I am aware. Or is this just a general slag against 'the right'? Or maybe we can draw implication from this that 'the right' endorses the beating of homosexuals to death. :blink:

Edited December 24, 2013 by Spiderfish

WWWTT · December 25, 2013

Who's playing the victim card? Phil isn't claiming to be a victim of anything as far as I am aware. Or is this just a general slag against 'the right'? Or maybe we can draw implication from this that 'the right' endorses the beating of homosexuals to death.

I agree that Phil is not claiming to be a victim.

After all, this is probably a publicity stunt and he probably doesn't even really believe what he had said in the now famous GQ magazine interview.

This would be about how the Christian right in the US is now using this publicity stunt as their "holy grail" in defending the so called traditional "Christian beliefs/values" by portraying this Phil guy as a "victim".

As far as you drawing implications, I bear no responsibility for what your imagination creates!

I believe therapists use ink blots in analyzing people? Does that mean that the ink blots have a specific meaning?

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BubberMiley · December 25, 2013

You're giving them too much credit.

I'm not saying they're good actors. But anyone who has ever witnessed the production of a television program can see how reality TV is staged.

jacee · December 26, 2013

This would be about how the Christian right in the US is now using this publicity stunt as their "holy grail" in defending the so called traditional "Christian beliefs/values" by portraying this Phil guy as a "victim".

Mainstream Christians are not happy with 'fringe extremist Christians' like Phil besmirching the Christian message:

http://m.thespec.com/whatson-story/4285735-folks-in-louisiana-town-stand-by-duck-dynasty-clan/

I'm a Christian," said Denison. "No one wants to talk about my Christ, they only want to talk about their brand."

Rev. Welton Gaddy, who preaches at the Northminster Baptist Church in Monroe and is the president of a national group called the Interfaith Alliance, said it saddens him to think that people would assume all Louisiana residents think the same as Robertson about gays and African Americans.

"There are some of us who are working hard every day for justice for everybody in this nation, for equality for everybody in this nation, and we don't appreciate people tearing that down," Gaddy said. "If Robertson wants to do that as an entertainer, go to it. But to do that in the name of religion crosses the line."

There should be a different name than 'Christian' for old testament bible thumpers who don't really have Christian values at all.

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Edited December 26, 2013 by jacee

kimmy · December 26, 2013

Haven't you heard? Phil Robertson is the new Rosa Parks.

Imagine a future when Christians can speak their mind, when they don't have to give up their seats on the bus, when they can vote. Someday you could even see a Christian President of the United States of America. And when that day comes, people will look back and think "Phil Robertson started this all."

-k

Shady · December 26, 2013

Uh oh. Jesse Jackson says Phil Robertson was exercising white privilege. I guess it was only a matter of time before the likes of him and his ilk got involved. They'd miss out on some much needed publicity.

bush_cheney2004 · December 26, 2013

Uh oh. Jesse Jackson says Phil Robertson was exercising white privilege. I guess it was only a matter of time before the likes of him and his ilk got involved. They'd miss out on some much needed publicity.

Jesse Jackson lost his mojo a long time ago with this stunt:

Rev. Jesse Jackson referred to Jews as "Hymies" and to New York City as "Hymietown" in January 1984 during a conversation with a black Washington Post reporter, Milton Coleman. Jackson had assumed the references would not be printed because of his racial bond with Coleman, but several weeks later Coleman permitted the slurs to be included far down in an article by another Post reporter on Jackson's rocky relations with American Jews.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/jackson.htm

WWWTT · December 26, 2013

There should be a different name than 'Christian' for old testament bible thumpers who don't really have Christian values at all.

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A bit of relief to see that the extreme hard wingers are a smaller group than as first thought!

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jacee · December 27, 2013

Uh oh. Jesse Jackson says Phil Robertson was exercising white privilege. I guess it was only a matter of time before the likes of him and his ilk got involved.

"ilk"?

Shady · December 27, 2013

"ilk"?

Yep. Folks in the race industry.

jacee · December 27, 2013

Yep. Folks in the race industry.

Ah ... folks like you. Edited December 27, 2013 by jacee

Shady · December 27, 2013

Ah ... folks like you.

Me? How so? I don't make a plug nickle in that business.

jacee · December 27, 2013

Me? How so? I don't make a plug nickle in that business.

No? Race baiting is just your hobby then? Edited December 27, 2013 by jacee

Shady · December 27, 2013

No? Race baiting is just your hobby then?

No idea what you're talking about.

kimmy · December 27, 2013

If anybody is interested in reading the actual interview in which the controversial comments were made, it is here.

One little snippet that seems to foreshadow the controversy that followed:

And then, of course, there is their faith, which plays no small role here. During the family’s initial negotiations about the show with A&E, Jase told me, “the three no-compromises were faith, betrayal of family members, and duck season.” That refusal to betray their faith or one another has been a staple of every media article about the Robertson family. It’s their elevator pitch, and it has made them into ideal Christian icons: beloved for staking out a bit of holy ground within the mostly secular, often downright sinful, pop culture of America.

-k

jacee · December 28, 2013

No idea what you're talking about.

You always pull out the race card to bait people into arguing race issues.

jacee · December 28, 2013

One little snippet that seems to foreshadow the controversy that followed:

... the Robertson family. Its their elevator pitch, and it has made them into ideal Christian icons: beloved for staking out a bit of holy ground within the mostly secular, often downright sinful, pop culture of America.

-k

Again I just don't get why people with such archaic views are called Christian when they are Old Testament perspectives that were dismissed and negated by Christ.

I'm not religious, but I wonder if those who are can explain this to me.