Partial list of "Enemies of the state",are you on it?

[G Huxley]

Request by Harper for a list of thus considered 'with us or against us.'

http://www.canada.com/Richard+Nixon+Watergate+cited+anger+erupts+over+Stephen+Harper+government+enemy+list/8668035/story.html

Edited July 19, 2013 by Charles Anthony
thread origianlly titled "Harper Channeling Nixon and Bush."

[Shady]

You forgot to mention Obama too.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

Harper and Watergate in the same sentence.....hmmmm.

I think Steve is getting screwed by low level people not doing what they should be doing. I think Steve is getting buggered by mid level people not riding herd on low level subordinates. I think Steve is about to have sex with the cabinet.

[waldo]

did an enemy leak the email? Might a supporter of someone demoted from the cabinet leak the email?

apparently, membership has its privileges!

[Topaz]

So....is Harper becoming a victim????? LOL! That's as funny as some the Tories going over to Africa and being monitors for an election!!! That's not a joke either, it true.

[WWWTT]

The dominoes are lining up and ready to start falling come 2015!

WWWTT

[Bryan]

More ridiculous fear mongering from Postmedia. Yawn. Wake me up when they learn what journalism is.

[The_Squid]

More ridiculous fear mongering from Postmedia. Yawn. Wake me up when they learn what journalism is.

So you think a list of "enemies" of the government circulated to MPs and their staff is appropriate? And an enemy means an individual or group with differing opinions to that of the government.

[Shady]

More ridiculous fear mongering from Postmedia. Yawn. Wake me up when they learn what journalism is.

Yep. It's as bad as the "troops are gonna be in the streets" fear mongering from the Liberals several years ago.

The best part of the ad: "We did not make this up."

Um, actually, that's exactly what you did!

[BubberMiley]

One thing is certain is that if a Liberal government turned the PMO into a taxpayer-funded wing of the party like this government has, the CPC supporters on this site would be apoplectic with self-righteous rage.

[G Huxley]

Funny seeing Clark's face on there:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/national/Enemies+state+almost+Complete+List/8673660/story.html

[MadX]

Yep. It's as bad as the "troops are gonna be in the streets" fear mongering from the Liberals several years ago.

The best part of the ad: "We did not make this up."

Um, actually, that's exactly what you did!

That actually wouldn't surprise me if Harper tried to do that. Robo-call scandals, secret trade deals, police brutality at the G20, and now secret enemy lists. I think our government is creeping closer to fascism every day. I think there would be a lot of dissent among the soldiers however, Harper's treatment of active duty soldiers and veterans has been appalling. I think Canadian Forces are more loyal to the people of Canada than the Stephen Harper government.

[WWWTT]

Well here's the most detailed list I could find.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Enemies+state+almost+Complete+List/8673783/story.html

As more come up please provide the link!

I find it crazy that elections Canada and other politicians are on this.

There has bein so much baggage piling up recently,I can only imagine how the NDP and liberal attack adds will look like.

I myself personally wouldn't mind being on the list!

WWWTT

[cybercoma]

I love how they're enemies. They're not colleagues or people they work with. Politics should be about collaboration, cooperation, and compromise. For the CPC it's about friends and enemies.

[Michael Hardner]

http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/07/18/jason-kenneys-speech-to-islamic-society-of-north-america-removed-from-government-and-personal-websites/

Is the Islamic Society of North American on the list ?

Is that why Kenney's speech to them was deleted ?

[g_bambino]

Well here's the most detailed list I could find.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Enemies+state+almost+Complete+List/8673783/story.html

I'm pretty sure that article is satirical. #912 was the real tip-off.

[WWWTT]

This paper does those kind of articles?

Can you provide a link of another article where they did this?

WWWTT

[cybercoma]

It's pretty obvious. This is commentary. They can have whatever tone they want. There's a difference between commentary and reports.

[Shady]

I'm pretty sure that article is satirical. #912 was the real tip-off.

LOL! Yep, complete satire. But Harper hating comes before fact-checking.

[AlienB]

I think that the list can be paraphrased as "dissenters of Tory Policy"

[August1991]

I love how they're enemies. They're not colleagues or people they work with. Politics should be about collaboration, cooperation, and compromise. For the CPC it's about friends and enemies.

On the contrary, when I see collaboration, co-operation and compromise between rivals - I see collusion, cartels and some conspiracy against the public. It is far healthier to have a political system where politicians loathe each other than one where they share jokes and cigars in backrooms.

I have always found Leftists incoherent when they claim that greedy corporate managers somehow manage to co-operate among themselves to deceive the public. Huh? If they're greedy, by definition they'll cheat and undercut each other. And the public will benefit from this increased price competition.

As to an "enemies list", the mere use of the term is indicative of why the Conservatives have decided who they will speak to, and who they will ignore. I think that it's fair to say that a federal Conservative politician has absolutely nothing to gain by giving an interview, for example, to the CBC or Radio-Canada. The vast majority of CBC listeners will never vote Tory and the CBC journalist merely wants to get a "money quote". For a Conservative politician, it's all downside risk.

Hence, I can understand why the CBC/Radio-Canada would be on a list of media outlets to avoid.

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With all that said, the right must start to think in broader terms. Thatcher was hated on the Left because she was not afraid to state simple truths in whatever venue.

Edited July 18, 2013 by August1991

[bleeding heart]

. Thatcher was hated on the Left because she was not afraid to state simple truths in whatever venue.

Yeah...there were simply no other reasons.

[August1991]

If Harper is channeling Nixon, it's through the famous phrase: "I gave them a sword."

When Harper approved the cheque to Duffy, it was like Nixon approving the plumbers unit in the White House. Both had to deny and cover-up any involvement. Harper has yet to be caught; Nixon was.

To be clear, Harper merely approved paying off a useful appointee/journalist with outside money. (Duffy surely brought in far more to the Conservative Party than the paltry $90,000.) Nixon created a full-scale intelligence team (however incompetent) to break into offices of rivals.

If Harper falls, it's because he gave "them" a sword. And that's another similarity: the "them" is the media, journalists, teachers, so-called intellectuals. While Nixon was smarter than any of them, they hated him. In this age, it's easier for Harper to go over heads and speak directly to people than it was possible for Nixon.

[August1991]

Yeah...there were simply no other reasons.

Oh, there were many other reasons. But fundamentally, I suspect the Left hated Thatcher because she could speak in difficult venues, tell the truth, and voters - who normally would have been conned by sloppy Leftist gibberish - understood her.

[WWWTT]

LOL! Yep, complete satire. But Harper hating comes before fact-checking.

Actually this list appears to be only satire.

Are you saying that the conservative "enemies of the state list" is completely fabricated?

WWWTT