Thank A Public School Teacher

[socialist]

I'm not gonna dwell on this but to all the teacher haters on this forum, this is for you. Canada ets more bang for the buck. i would hate to see our country without the tireless efforts of public schoolteachers. Read learn little ones.

http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/details/education.aspx

[Guest Kenneth]

I had a few teachers that were great and they had a positive influence on me, but I can name many more that were detrimental if not corrupting, and so for many years now I have had to deconstruct what they had done to me. Even so, it's not half as bad as what's going on in this day and age. When I see what is now being pushed on students in Ontario schools, it's positively shocking and disheartening. Years ago these were the things done by nefarious people lurking in the shadows outside rather than inside in a state-approved position of power.

[socialist]

I had a few teachers that were great and they had a positive influence on me, but I can name many more that were detrimental if not corrupting, and so for many years now I have had to deconstruct what they had done to me. Even so, it's not half as bad as what's going on in this day and age. When I see what is now being pushed on students in Ontario schools, it's positively shocking and disheartening. Years ago these were the things done by nefarious people lurking in the shadows outside rather than inside in a state-approved position of power.

Oh puleeeez tell us about all the bad things happening in ontario schools. All talk no substance. teachers are co-parents and are esponsible for shaping minds and teach kids to respect each other, to be tolerant, and to protect the environment.

[Guest Kenneth]

Actually, I probably will but in an eBook that will sell millions. I had so many teachers that were unfit for the position. No, I'm not exagerating - they were so incompetent that they were teaching the courses where they in theory would do the least damage. I won't go into detail because a few of them have actually made the news in subsequent years.

[Pliny]

Grammar and spelling aren't important anymore. thanx, teech!

[Patton74]

Socialistic you amuse me.

You ask for an opinion then criticize them for their past experiences.

Personally I had amazing public school teachers who were for the most part great role models and helped us grow up.

High school was a different story. I found more of the teachers were just waiting out the clock or shooting for promotion.

To be fair I had a few that were a major influence on me but I do remember during contract talks a majority of them openly criticized any student that dare disagree with the union line. It was not open to discussion but they very much loved teaching us about why they should always be agreed with.

Reading your Socialists posts I laughed when he talked about how the Liberals gave in to the teachers union and how HE had that going for him.

Not a very socialist attitude. More of a conservative greedy mantra,

[eyeball]

I have fairly normal and happy memories of school up until grade 5 when I moved to Toronto from the sticks out by Oshawa. By grade 8 I was in something called "free" school in a classroom on the 4th floor of Rochdale. I still remember the sound and smell of Harley Davidsons.

Anyway, I dropped out for a year or so and gave it the old college try and gave Jarvis High School a whirl. That was best characterized as a hopeless month or so of spitballs, paper-airplanes, some really mean bullies and some barely less unpleasant teachers so I went out west and started logging and fishing.

I hated school but to be fair I think school hated me.

[Guest Kenneth]

Socialistic you amuse me.

You ask for an opinion then criticize them for their past experiences.

But that's to be expected. Now that people of his ilk have infiltrated the system we're now supposed to lavish mindless praise upon them, whereas a generation or two ago they did everything they could to disrespect and undermine the status of the teacher. It's a typical leftist double-standard.

[cybercoma]

people of his ilk

This line is so tired and played out. It only serves to show how closed off you are to any sort of diversity of opinions and is perhaps the most obnoxious phrase in the history of the internet.

[Guest Kenneth]

Coming from someone who apparently admires slave owners...

[Michael Hardner]

Well, how are we supposed to buy into your version, though ? That your experiences are proof that we're circling the drain ?

There should be a way for people to evaluate such things, and I suspect that there is. I just don't know what it is.

[Michael Hardner]

Coming from someone who apparently admires slave owners...

That's a pretty severe charge. What/Who are you referring to ?

[August1991]

I'm not gonna dwell on this but to all the teacher haters on this forum, this is for you. Canada ets more bang for the buck. i would hate to see our country without the tireless efforts of public schoolteachers. Read learn little ones.

http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/details/education.aspx

Yet, Justin Trudeau studied at a "private" high school.

[CliffStir]

I'm not gonna dwell on this but ...........................

After 4 threads trying to justify why you deserve so much more than those paying you, I would hope not.

[westguy]

Socialist- not all teachers are dedicated and some took the job for the generous benfits and holidays

[gullyfourmyle]

Thank your lucky stars for each and every good teacher you had. Hope like hell you escaped relatively unscathed from the bad ones.

The problem as I see it is one where there is a systemic lack of respect going both ways that has generated a race to the bottom.

Who's to blame?

Well in the sixties a social revolution occurred. Students started to rebel against their teachers and got away with it to the point where dress codes changed, faltered and were discontinued. There were no drugs. Then there were. The students of the sixties became parents of the seventies and eighties and their drug habits grew with them.

Swearing by children, unknown in the fifties got worse and worse to the point where everyone swears as part of normal communication.

Religion in Canada is dying and that's long overdue. But religion was the basis for teaching manners, ethics and humanity. Nothing has replaced it in schools and it was lost at home in the early seventies. As a result there is a void where self respect and mutual respect once lived.

The cowboys and Indians shooting each other on TV in the fifties became super heroes and thugs blowing up everything in sight. So now we have socially stunted Muslims running around blowing things up for real, not throwing paper airplanes.

They have what they consider a just cause. They think their religion is under threat and that a good defense is a violent offense. Abuse of women is a way of life. It was for us too until a federal Liberal backbencher inadvertently opened that can of worms in the early the seventies.

Where girls were treated with respect and decency in public mostly up until the advent of internet porn movies, slipping morals have deteriorated to the point where young rapists think rape is so normal they have to have the offense explained to them and still they don't get it.

Until ethics, good manners and humanity are mandatory subjects at school, we get what we deserve.

Edited May 21, 2013 by gullyfourmyle

[Mighty AC]

Socialist- not all teachers are dedicated and some took the job for the generous benfits and holidays

Not all nurses, doctors, mechanics, ECE workers, layers, accountants, etc. are dedicated. Though, like teachers they are in a position of trust and more often than not, do a great job.

[Newfoundlander]

I'm not gonna dwell on this but to all the teacher haters on this forum, this is for you. Canada ets more bang for the buck. i would hate to see our country without the tireless efforts of public schoolteachers. Read learn little ones.

http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/details/education.aspx

Well lets double their wages for doing their job.

[Keepitsimple]

The child-centric learning environment. The bend-over-backwards to protect little Johnny's self-esteem. The refusal to award prizes for winners in sports - because......(I never figured that one out). The futile attempt to treat bullies with tut-tuts. Where has this got us? Fortunately, the majority of kids either have good parents or a naturally strong "core"......but far too many kids end up with an "entitled" attitude - they've been coddled and catered to and can't deal with the reality of a world that demands that you earn a place it it through hard work and dedication. Far too many times I've heard young children saying "you've hurt my feelings". Calculators and cell phones in the classroom? Kids can't do basic math in their heads any more.....and that's part of functional literacy - as well as stimulating the brain. Time for the pendulum to swing back to basics.

Edited May 29, 2013 by Keepitsimple