Conservatives happy, NDP amused and Liberals gay

[Big Guy]

So the 2,000 plus delegates to the Ontario provincial Liberal leadership convention have just chosen Kathleen Wynne as successor to Dalton McGuinty as party leader and Ontario’s new premier. I believe that this is going to be the first and last gay female Premier of Ontario for a very, very long time. The Liberals appear to have accepted the fact that they will be in the minority after the next election with Tim Hudak’s Conservatives already making plans for taking Ontario on a quick right turn and back to the Mike Harris vision for the province. This will be an interesting time.

[Topaz]

Interesting? This could be a complete mess but it all depends on Wynne and if she remembers there's life outside of GTA. This is were Wynne and the NDP leader could part ways but we'll have to wait and see how things go down. I can't see voters wants Mike Harris style of government back and we need jobs and the PC are all for business so how can the PC's be happy with a leader that very little voters like?

[Sleipnir]

Interesting title choice for this article.

[Argus]

I had previously posted that I didn't think I could bring myself to vote for Hudak given his anti-union stance. But with this as the choice I'm afraid I won't really have a lot of choice. Ontario is in a mess because of a spineless premier who couldn't tell the difference between "want" and "need", and was more than willing to pay anything to anyone to gain popularity. Wynn is further to the left than McGuinty, an activist and agitator who, I predict, will almost immediately raise taxes. I also anticipate the teachers will stop protesting because Wynn will cut a deal with them promising big raises after the next election. This will not be announced, of course. I don't see Ontario's economy or deficit making any improvement under Wynn. Quite the contrary. Wynn will join the other mushy, incompetent leftist female premiers from BC, Alberta and Quebec, and will fit in nicely.

Edited January 27, 2013 by Argus

[Boges]

I'm actually happy she won over Pupatello. At least Wynne has pledged to have the Legislator sit again before Spring.

[Argus]

I'm actually happy she won over Pupatello. At least Wynne has pledged to have the Legislator sit again before Spring.

It may sit for quite a while. There seems no discernible difference between Wynn's politics and the NDP, so I'm anticipating a deal between the two to rule as a defacto majority for the next couple of years.

[MiddleClassCentrist]

I had previously posted that I didn't think I could bring myself to vote for Hudak given his anti-union stance. But with this as the choice I'm afraid I won't really have a lot of choice. Ontario is in a mess because of a spineless premier who couldn't tell the difference between "want" and "need", and was more than willing to pay anything to anyone to gain popularity. Wynn is further to the left than McGuinty, an activist and agitator who, I predict, will almost immediately raise taxes. I also anticipate the teachers will stop protesting because Wynn will cut a deal with them promising big raises after the next election. This will not be announced, of course. I don't see Ontario's economy or deficit making any improvement under Wynn. Quite the contrary. Wynn will join the other mushy, incompetent leftist female premiers from BC, Alberta and Quebec, and will fit in nicely.

Teacher's union had the ability to send many delegates to liberal convention, they sent only a handful to observe and withdrew most.

Why do people assume that teachers control this province? The only thing they have, is money to fight for their cause... something that corporations have much more than teachers.

Corporations control the news, and they control this province. Make no mistake about it. Teachers are only a threat to the corporate power because they do not represent the interests of the corporate overlords and have money to publicize when they are abused.

Edited January 27, 2013 by MiddleClassCentrist

[Pliny]

Quite the contrary. Wynn will join the other mushy, incompetent leftist female premiers from BC, Alberta and Quebec, and will fit in nicely.

Seems like, at least in the realm of provincial politics, mushy, incompetent, leftist females are cleaning house.

[scribblet]

After this I'm hoping there will be a spring election. Wynn has been part of the McGuinty admin so I don't see her cleaning up much.

Hudak's ads have more truth in them than the years of McGuinty gov't, but I don't see the voters warming up that much to Hudak.

The Ontario PCs have some problems. A major part of the party establishment either holds left wing views or think that it's necessary to cater to the left to win the election. As a result they fail to differentiate the party from the Liberals or to inspire support among their base.

[MiddleClassCentrist]

After this I'm hoping there will be a spring election. Wynn has been part of the McGuinty admin so I don't see her cleaning up much.

Hudak's ads have more truth in them than the years of McGuinty gov't, but I don't see the voters warming up that much to Hudak.

The Ontario PCs have some problems. A major part of the party establishment either holds left wing views or think that it's necessary to cater to the left to win the election. As a result they fail to differentiate the party from the Liberals or to inspire support among their base.

I do not feel that is their problem.

Right now, they are scaring off moderate, swing voters that would normally bring them to win the election.

They need to keep their base but, at least put some low cost social initiatives out to appease the moderates. $200 bonus to welfare recipients who find and hold down a new job past probation? That likely won't cost much but, is right up their alley of getting people back to work and helping the poor at the same time.

[PIK]

Actually hudak is starting to souind like a conservative leader. He knew he blew the last election and he will be alot better next time, But it does not matter ,the libs have to go.

[Boges]

Charles Sousa as Finance Minister. Hey Wynne he's one of the MP's behind the Gas Plant Cancellation!

I like how she's making herself Agriculture Minister. I hope she does right by rural Ontario after Dalton pretty much gave it the symbolic finger. But it won't by her votes.

[Newfoundlander]

What a ridiculously oversized cabinet, the woman must be worse then I thought if she thinks all these ministers are needed. Harper's not the only one who can appoint useless ministers to useless departments.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2013/02/11/ontario-kathleen-wynne-new-cabinet.html

[Boges]

What a ridiculously oversized cabinet, the woman must be worse then I thought if she thinks all these ministers are needed. Harper's not the only one who can appoint useless ministers to useless departments.

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...ew-cabinet.html

Especially since she's taking on the Agriculture Portfolio.

The PCs say that's an extra $200,000 for the new ministers because they get a raise ($40,000). Must piss teachers off.

[Newfoundlander]

What exactly is a Minister of Consumer Services?

[ironstone]

It may sit for quite a while. There seems no discernible difference between Wynn's politics and the NDP, so I'm anticipating a deal between the two to rule as a defacto majority for the next couple of years.

Off the top of my head I can't see much difference between the Liberals and the NDP.Like the Liberals,the NDP cater to public service unions,they both do not recognize our massive debt as a problem,and both like to spend like there is no tomorrow.Both also support high taxes.

And Andrea Horvath fully supports the idiotoc Green Energy Act,which makes Ontario have the highest electricity rates in North America!

The Ontario economy is lame right now,but I still think Wynne will easily win the next election,thanks largely to the GTA.