Newfoundlander Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Yes, he could have stop and said I have nothing to say, but to ignore her like that ,shows he is a little ignorant man. It was only one question. He had already spoken on the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Basically, Marc Garneau is calling all Muslims ("these people") terrorists. Uhm, no he isn't. he's criticizing the groups involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 No. Not for Trudeau. He's very smart to try to connect with young Islamists in Canada, and the opposition just had the rug pulled out from under them. It's politically stupid of the Cons to villify Canadian Islamists, and to ignore their concerns about western imperialism, imo. What do you mean by Islamists? I always understood the term to mean fundamentalists, jihadists, etc, as differentiated from the ordinary Muslim. But then Google's first definition is "a scholar who knowledgeable in Islamic studies". If the former, then the government is correct to speak the truth about them. I don't think it will hurt them politically. If the latter, well, they probably aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 What do you mean by Islamists? I always understood the term to mean fundamentalists, jihadists, etc, as differentiated from the ordinary Muslim. But then Google's first definition is "a scholar who knowledgeable in Islamic studies". If the former, then the government is correct to speak the truth about them. I don't think it will hurt them politically. If the latter, well, they probably aren't. I'm not sure. Maybe it's used differently. I suppose I should have just said Islamic youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) hamas doesn't fit the definition of a terrorist organization anymore because it is a government not a subnational organization. human rights abuser would be the correct problem not terrorism but israel meets the definition of a state that commits human rights abuses too. so it is simply politics, not law or morality. hopefully muslims will wise up and vote liberal and recognize their path from being the subhumans of canada is to get the rascist islamophobes out of office, how can you vote for someone who calls islam the greatest threat to canada as Stephen harper does? The muslim vote should be as much liberal as the jewish vote should be conservative its not that the liberaks are anti jew, they are rather for all canadians, harper glvernme t is prozionist plain and simple though. liberals have been nothing less than pro canadian. something you won't get from the conservatives. they are about conservatives not canada the fact there isn't a single conservstive muslim mp is a testament to that that is 1 million muslims in canada that is 1 in 35 canadians and not a single conservative mp is muslim Edited December 23, 2012 by login Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) http://m.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1306261--justin-trudeau-fires-back-at-critics-in-speech-at-islamic-conference “As you know,some conservatives tried to stir up controversy about my appearance here today. They tried to appeal to people’s fears and prejudices,the very things that this gathering was founded to overcome,” Trudeau told a crowd of thousands. “I want you to know that I will always stand up to the politics of division. ... Trudeau’s speech,delivered at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre,was light on the current political race for leader,instead telling the tale of Wilfrid Laurier,whom Trudeau called his second-favourite prime minister. He praised Laurier for helping find common ground between opposing factions. Previous keynote speakers at the annual event,now in its 11th year,include late NDP leader Jack Layton and former police chief Julian Fantino. The three-day convention is an effort assembled by Muslim youth designed to facilitate discussion and dialogue within the community. Well, the sky didn't fall or anything. "A crowd of thousands" ... of voters ... Too bad the Conservatives didn't get an invite. Edited December 23, 2012 by jacee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Interesting that Julian Fantino has spoken at this conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Canadians don't give into extremists. I can see some form of sharia law coming if he ever becomes PM. He will sell this country out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Canadians don't give into extremists. I can see some form of sharia law coming if he ever becomes PM. He will sell this country out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Canadians don't give into extremists. I can see some form of sharia law coming if he ever becomes PM. He will sell this country out. You mean like to the chinese....? .....change rules so chinese worker imports can occur? Gosh...I hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I am talking about the extremists, trudeau is trying to pandering votes from, what will it cost us??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I am talking about the extremists, trudeau is trying to pandering votes from, what will it cost us??? OH yeah, Chinese run businesses are always ethics first. Geez, I forgot. It'll cost you a vote. Nothing else. Still a 'fraidy pants huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) Everyone panders in politics. The Harper government clearly panders to the Jews, considering his fanatical and somewhat irresponsible/unreasonable and uncompromising support for Israel, and Trudeau has clearly seen this as an opportunity to court the Islamic vote. This is normal. Too bad he couldn't come up with anything interesting to say. As usual, he blathered about a bunch of nothing, staked out no positions and all sorts of ironic and contradicting statements further proved he's just a an empty-headed blowhard. Edited December 27, 2012 by Moonbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Canadians don't give into extremists. I can see some form of sharia law coming if he ever becomes PM. He will sell this country out. Justin's the new Harper it seems. Circa 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 I am talking about the extremists, trudeau is trying to pandering votes from, what will it cost us??? He spoke to a Catholic school to so expect him to ban abortions and get rid of same sex marriage if he becomes Prime Minister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) Justin's the new Harper it seems. Circa 2005. I don't think so. Harper made a firm stance on a very controversial - and unpopular issue - back then. Oh how can I forget that moment he stood up in the Commons. Young Trudeau on the other hand, might end up suffering from physical strain, what with all the tap dancing and bending over he's been doing all over the place. He's yet to find his principle that he can firmly stand on. If he can manage to keep still long enough, and not fidget around. Edited December 29, 2012 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 He spoke to a Catholic school to so expect him to ban abortions and get rid of same sex marriage if he becomes Prime Minister. Looks like many in Canada still fear Islam.But Christian/Jewdaism is still AOK! WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Looks like many in Canada still fear Islam.But Christian/Jewdaism is still AOK! WWWTT Yup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Looks like many in Canada still fear Islam.But Christian/Jewdaism is still AOK! WWWTT Damn right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Looks like many in Canada still fear Islam.But Christian/Jewdaism is still AOK! WWWTT Yes, I fear religions that chop off peoples hands, feet, stone women to death for looking at another man and force their women to be covered from head to toe in thick cloth. Yes, I fear that religion which seeks to impose Sharia Law on the rest of us who wish to live in a secular society. I fear that religion of Islam which seeks to dominate the western world through violence and will behead innocent people to try to meet its goals. Sharia Law must never be allowed to infiltrate our lives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Looks like many in Canada still fear Islam.But Christian/Jewdaism is still AOK! Can you get it clear? Both of our countries are liberal Western democracies. Islam or at least radical Islam is at odds with Westernism. If they don't like it here they can move to any number of sh*****oles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Can you get it clear? Both of our countries are liberal Western democracies. Islam or at least radical Islam is at odds with Westernism. If they don't like it here they can move to any number of sh*****oles. Strange radical Islamists would want a radical westerner speaking at their conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Maybe it's all part of a master plan. Or maybe they weren't radical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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