DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 ya ya, the Cold War lives on... in your fond memories! Any comment on the "specs" for the latest U.S. bomber aspirations including an unmanned flight option/capability? The Cold War does live on. Seen Syria lately? What's an RS-24 Yars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 interesting... could you quote/cite that NATO obligation? Dirty work? Why would you want Canada to engage in... dirty work? Oh my! Why not move to Belize? I hear they pay no taxes and have no commitments to other nations other than their tax-haven status. You'll be a much happier camper and they LOVE ex-pat Canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 30 years? Really? You presume on "modern design"... yet, apparently, discount technological advances that most certainly will push manned flight aside... to the curb. You really think any "buzzword generation" plane will be around in... 30 years? 20 years? 15 years? 10 years? Pick a number! as an aside you've yet to speak to my challenge question - 'why does Canada need a so-called strike fighter'? Yes 30 years. The CF-18's entered service in 1983. By my count that is 30 years, this year. Or is it 31, never do get that one straight. Assuming we can get the CF-35's into service by 2020, it will be 37 years. Because we can't foresee what its missions will be over the next 35 years and will have only one fighter type it will need the ability to as many different jobs as possible, including strike. Nothing to say on those helo's yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'd say the number should be close to 42 years , is that not the number that was forced onto the end price of each Aircraft...lockmart price plus 42 years of operational costs. if not can someone sort me out. And yes Waldo UNmanned flight will be perfected by then or atleast should be, but that is an uneducated guess, as is yours. But then again this is Canada's purchasing program we are talking about, and i'll bet a years wages we will still be flying those F-35's well after unmanned flight is perfected. WALDO Can you make a logical debate on why why do we "not" need a strike fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Manned flight will be pushed to the curb? It will be pushed to the curb the same way the manned bomber was pushed to the curb as result of the perfection of the ICBM. The extensive use of drones indicated that the pilot has already been pushed out of the seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 The extensive use of drones indicated that the pilot has already been pushed out of the seat. For some purposes yes, for many others, they aren't even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 The extensive use of drones indicated that the pilot has already been pushed out of the seat. The exact same words as with the bomber and ICBM. Seems the experts such as yourself were incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Why not move to Belize? I hear they pay no taxes and have no commitments to other nations other than their tax-haven status. You'll be a much happier camper and they LOVE ex-pat Canadians. no, no, no... Costa Rica... Panama City (for the Chica Bonita)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 no, no, no... Costa Rica... Panama City (for the Chica Bonita)! Either or. If you dislike your country that much, why not, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 The exact same words as with the bomber and ICBM. Seems the experts such as yourself were incorrect. More ICBMs than bombers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Nothing to say on those helo's yet? what's your point concerning helo's and how are you presuming to apply it to the F-35? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 More ICBMs than bombers. (Makes zero sense as he tries to appear clever.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Either or. If you dislike your country that much, why not, eh? don't you have a Simpson's quote stream you can rely on here? You're going to need a ton of quotes if you're prepared to disparage any/all Canadians that seek extended... or partial yearly time in foreign countries. Why, we have someone on this board who has provided an almost regular incessant barrage of extended long-term vacation status updates to a foreign destination... have you spoken of her dislike of country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 don't you have a Simpson's quote stream you can rely on here? You're going to need a ton of quotes if you're prepared to disparage any/all Canadians that seek extended... or partial yearly time in foreign countries. Why, we have someone on this board who has provided an almost regular incessant barrage of extended long-term vacation status updates to a foreign destination... have you spoken of her dislike of country? Insults are typical and expected from you...just so you know. If the Cold War is so 'over', why do the Americans still practice MITO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 More ICBMs than bombers. Since the inception of the ICBM and ballistic missiles in general, manned bombers have been used many times in many different situations. Ballistic missiles, very few and ICBM's, none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 ya ya, the Cold War lives on... in your fond memories! Any comment on the "specs" for the latest U.S. bomber aspirations including an unmanned flight option/capability? I think putin is doing a great job at firing the cold war back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 what's your point concerning helo's and how are you presuming to apply it to the F-35? Just wondering. If you are so outraged about the F-35, why not a peep about the helicopter gong show that has been going on for twenty years now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Just wondering. If you are so outraged about the F-35, why not a peep about the helicopter gong show that has been going on for twenty years now? is there an active helo thread... point me to an active thread and, if motivated, I may offer the sage waldo opinion you so desire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 is there an active helo thread... point me to an active thread and, if motivated, I may offer the sage waldo opinion you so desire. So...why does the US still practice MITO again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 So...why does the US still practice MITO again? you've asked the same question twice... your distractions are noted. I relish and await your own insightful answer, particularly as you presume to apply it to this thread and JSFail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 outraged about the F-35 is questioning... is challenging... "outrage"? What do you call passive sheepish acceptance of 12+ years of over-budget, over-schedule, over-hype? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) you've asked the same question twice... your distractions are noted. I relish and await your own insightful answer, particularly as you presume to apply it to this thread and JSFail. Your claim is that the Cold War is long over and this is all for nothing. So...why does the USAF still practice MITO? If the question is too hard, let me know and I'll dumb it down for you. Edited October 30, 2013 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Your claim is that the Cold War is long over and this is all for nothing. So...why does the USAF still practice MITO? If the question is too hard, let me know and I'll dumb it down for you. yes, I have mocked your Cold War boogeyman, the one you regularly trot out... the one hiding under your bed and in your closets!!! Has your longing for the Cold War allowed it to reach reality level. Is it that strong? You do know that RonnyRayGun won the Cold War, don't you? Like I said, your perpetual distractions are noted, once again. Although you were already answered, you can keep asking. I'll have the same ready-reach response for you... this one: "I relish and await your own insightful answer, particularly as you presume to apply it to this thread and JSFail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 yes, I have mocked your Cold War boogeyman, the one you regularly trot out... the one hiding under your bed and in your closets!!! Has your longing for the Cold War allowed it to reach reality level. Is it that strong? You do know that RonnyRayGun won the Cold War, don't you? Like I said, your perpetual distractions are noted, once again. Although you were already answered, you can keep asking. I'll have the same ready-reach response for you... this one: "I relish and await your own insightful answer, particularly as you presume to apply it to this thread and JSFail Seeing that you're not going to bother with reality, MITO stands for Minimum Interval Take-off. This is a procedure to get one's strategic assets into the sky before the MIRVs start dropping. While you and the media might like to PRETEND that what has been coined 'The Cold War' is over, the fact remains that the military thinks otherwise...and practices otherwise. The video was from May 2013. That's this year...waldo. Not some distant point in Ronald Reagan's Presidency. So in conclusion: The US still practices MITO due to the threat of nuclear annihilation at minimal notice. However, you're on record seeing nuclear armed Tu-95s and Tu-160s in Canadian airspace as a non-threat. Hmmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 is questioning... is challenging... "outrage"? What do you call passive sheepish acceptance of 12+ years of over-budget, over-schedule, over-hype? Questioning? More like jumping up and down stamping your feet. Never found it accomplished much that was constructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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